The Alien in the White House (WSJ)

Danube

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Interesting piece in the Wall Street Journal today. It reminded me of a piece that was in Aisa Times back in 08 before election. First some bits from WSJ:


"The Alien in the White House: The distance between the president and the people is beginning to be revealed."


"A great part of America now understands that this president's sense of identification lies elsewhere, and is in profound ways unlike theirs. He is hard put to sound convincingly like the leader of the nation, because he is, at heart and by instinct, the voice mainly of his ideological class. He is the alien in the White House, a matter having nothing to do with delusions about his birthplace cherished by the demented fringe...

The beliefs and attitudes that this president has internalized are to be found everywhere -in the salons of the left the world over - and, above all, in the academic establishment, stuffed with tenured radicals and their political progeny. The places where it is held as revealed truth that the United States is now, and has been throughout its history, the chief engine of injustice and oppression in the world.

They are attitudes to be found everywhere, but never before in a president of the United States. Mr. Obama may not hold all, or the more extreme, of these views. But there can be no doubt by now of the influences that have shaped him. They account for his grand apology tour through the capitals of Europe and to the Muslim world, during which he decried America's moral failures - her arrogance, insensitivity. They were the words of a man to whom reasons for American guilt came naturally. Americans were shocked by this behavior in their newly elected president. But he was telling them something from those lecterns in foreign lands - something about his distant relation to the country he was about to lead.

The truth about that distance is now sinking in, which is all to the good. A country governed by leaders too principled to speak the name of its mortal enemy needs every infusion of reality it can get."


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...5294231631318728.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop




From Asia Times:


"We know less about Senator Obama than about any prospective president in American history. His uplifting rhetoric is empty, as Hillary Clinton helplessly protests. His career bears no trace of his own character, not an article for the Harvard Law Review he edited, or a single piece of legislation. He appears to be an empty vessel filled with the wishful thinking of those around him. But there is a real Barack Obama. No man - least of all one abandoned in infancy by his father - can conceal the imprint of an impassioned mother, or the influence of a brilliant wife.

America is not the embodiment of hope, but the abandonment of one kind of hope in return for another. America is the spirit of creative destruction, selecting immigrants willing to turn their back on the tragedy of their own failing culture in return for a new start. Its creative success is so enormous that its global influence hastens the decline of other cultures. For those on the destruction side of the trade, America is a monster. Between half and nine-tenths of the world's 6,700 spoken languages will become extinct in the next century, and the anguish of dying peoples rises up in a global cry of despair. Some of those who listen to this cry become anthropologists, the curators of soon-to-be extinct cultures; anthropologists who really identify with their subjects marry them. Obama's mother, the University of Hawaii anthropologist Ann Dunham, did so twice.

Obama profiles Americans the way anthropologists interact with primitive peoples. He holds his own view in reserve and emphatically draws out the feelings of others; that is how friends and colleagues describe his modus operandi since his days at the Harvard Law Review, through his years as a community activist in Chicago, and in national politics. Anthropologists, though, proceed from resentment against the devouring culture of America and sympathy with the endangered cultures of the primitive world. Obama inverts the anthropological model: he applies the tools of cultural manipulation out of resentment against America. The probable next president of the United States is a mother's revenge against the America she despised. ...


Barack Obama is a clever fellow who imbibed hatred of America with his mother's milk, but worked his way up the elite ladder of education and career. He shares the resentment of Muslims against the encroachment of American culture, although not their religion. He has the empathetic skill set of an anthropologist who lives with his subjects, learns their language, and elicits their hopes and fears while remaining at emotional distance. That is, he is the political equivalent of a sociopath. The difference is that he is practicing not on a primitive tribe but on the population of the United States. "


Obama's women reveal his secret
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa02.html


Obama hasn't flubbed the Gulf just because he's inept - it's also because he doesn't really care that much - same for the debt and terrorism etc.

He reminds me of the King Salomon story where 2 women claimed to be the mother of a baby. King Solomon said the baby would be cut in half and each one given a piece. One woman freaked and the king knew she was the mom.

Obama is like the other mom. The Gulf showed that Obama isn't cool - he's cold. His heart just doesn't beat with high regard for America. Worse than that he likes the idea of a broke and neutered America that can't cause the world problems anymore. An America he would hope to become just a set of coordinates on a map designating a region that can be shoe horned into the global rack like another drive in a RAID.
 

TheBDB

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I surely don't agree with the mindset of Obama and his people all the time, but I don't mind having the Presidency go in this direction for a couple years after Bush. It seems like government is the worst when it is too ideological in any one direction, so this is just steering it a different way. I'm not worried that any one President will completely screw up the country.
 

Throckmorton

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This sounds like the garbage Ann Coulter spouts about "liberals", and you rightwingers eat it up.

"The places where it is held as revealed truth that the United States is now, and has been throughout its history, the chief engine of injustice and oppression in the world. "

So which one of these policies that he supposedly believes is oppressive and unjust has he changed?

If you really believe Obama is a member of the far left you're off your rocker.
 

Danube

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This sounds like the garbage Ann Coulter spouts about "liberals", and you rightwingers eat it up.

"The places where it is held as revealed truth that the United States is now, and has been throughout its history, the chief engine of injustice and oppression in the world. "

So which one of these policies that he supposedly believes is oppressive and unjust has he changed?

Obama (like Wright, Ayers et al) think Israel imposes apartheid on Pals and Obama has made it clear US won't be supporting that anymore. This is why Israels enemies are getting bold.

Obama thinks US economy draws unfair amounts of global resoruces to itself (never mind that it also produces more). Burying the US in debt and strangling the economy with cap and trade is a good way to neutralize US leverage.

Obama"

"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on, you know, 72 degrees at all times and -- whether we're living in the desert or we're living in the tundra, and then just expect that every other country is going to say, okay, you know you guys go ahead and keep on using 25% of the world's energy, even though you only account for 3% of the population, and we'll -- we'll be fine, don't worry about us. That's not leadership."

Obama is more concerned with "every other country" than America - who he sees as world pig. Heck Obama thinks the US or AZ enforcing borders is injustice. He wants to fix that too.
 

Throckmorton

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Danube, we don't produce 25% of the world's energy. Hence the "controversy" over how much oil we import.

Believe it or not, our activities do have a significant negative impact on others... For example biofuel has raised world food prices and caused a lot of deforestation. Realizing these things isn't antiamerican. Burying your head in the sand is
 
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Danube

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Danube, we don't produce 25% of the world's energy. Hence the "controversy" over how much oil we import.


What I mean is 3% of the world's population has historically produced around a quarter of global goods. They also provided for protection for millions outside its shore.

America could produce gobs more of its own energy but the people who complain about dependence on one hand deny self sufficiency on the other hand. It's a three card Monte game that's more deception than anything.
 

Throckmorton

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What I mean is 3% of the world's population has historically produced around a quarter of global goods. They also provided for protection for millions outside its shore.

America could produce gobs more of its own energy but the people who complain about dependence on one hand deny self sufficiency on the other hand. It's a three card Monte game that's more deception than anything.


We can't produce anywhere near the amount proportional to what we use, unless we build a lot of nuclear powerstations which won't last forever before running out of fuel, or get serious about solar power.

Using more energy isn't inherently bad, but it is when it negatively affects other countries.
 
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Cuda1447

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We can't produce anywhere near the amount proportional to what we use, unless we build a lot of nuclear powerstations which won't last forever before running out of fuel, or get serious about solar power.

Using more energy isn't inherently bad, but it is when it negatively affects other countries.

We can't? Seriously, I hope you're joking. The US has more oil than we would know to do with. Between the Gulf, Alaska and all those other reserves always hear about we have TONS of oil. Combine that with our ability, if we put our heads to it, to build nuclear reactors, hyrdo-power, wind-power etc etc....


If we really wanted to be energy self-sufficient, I don't have a shadow of a doubt that we couldn't do it. Easily. You know though, if we did that we would damage a lot of economies that rely on oil as their main export.
 
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So basically this is a hit piece not just on Obama, but also on those who are educated and not blindly patriotic as well. Basically everyone who isn't a viewer of Mr. Murdoch's other media outlet.
 

flavio

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Obama (like Wright, Ayers et al) think Israel imposes apartheid on Pals and Obama has made it clear US won't be supporting that anymore. This is why Israels enemies are getting bold.

Source? That'd be cool but....source?

Burying the US in debt and strangling the economy with cap and trade is a good way to neutralize US leverage.

Seems like a good way to be responsible for the environment.


"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on, you know, 72 degrees at all times and -- whether we're living in the desert or we're living in the tundra, and then just expect that every other country is going to say, okay, you know you guys go ahead and keep on using 25% of the world's energy, even though you only account for 3% of the population, and we'll -- we'll be fine, don't worry about us. That's not leadership."

That's an intelligent responsible statement. Awesome.

Obama is more concerned with "every other country" than America - who he sees as world pig.

Not true, almost all of his work has been on the problems of this country.

Heck Obama thinks the US or AZ enforcing borders is injustice. He wants to fix that too.

As far as I know he's never said anything similar so....source?

Maybe you've confused that with AZ giving up their freedoms?
 

Oceandevi

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So basically this is a hit piece not just on Obama, but also on those who are educated and not blindly patriotic as well. Basically everyone who isn't a viewer of Mr. Murdoch's other media outlet.

If you put the human species before our great nation.. sir you are a pinko!
 

Jhhnn

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Dorothy in the Rightwing land of Oz... with danube as the scarecrow...

When not attending to her primary responsibilities as an arts and entertainment writer for the WSJ, Dorothy writes occasional hatchet jobs in the political realm, as well, pretending she's something other than a different kind of elitist, herself... Her best writing has been wrt false sexual abuse charges and television reviews... In the realm of politics, she's just another opinionated fringe-whack.

Wingnuts lap it up, of course... It strokes their erroneous zones, panders to their fears, feeds their outrage addiction...
 

nonlnear

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The OP's quotes are incredibly poor writing. Not only does it utterly fail to make a convincing case for the underlying thesis, but the underlying thesis - if true - is itself meaningless.
He has the empathetic skill set of an anthropologist who lives with his subjects, learns their language, and elicits their hopes and fears while remaining at emotional distance. That is, he is the political equivalent of a sociopath. The difference is that he is practicing not on a primitive tribe but on the population of the United States.
Well no shit Sherlock! Anyone with half a brain knows that to be true of pretty much every politician who has ever managed to secure a major donor. Only a true idiot could possibly read this, believe it, and believe that what it accuses Barack Obama of being is substantially different from the mental state of the vast majority of world leaders throughout history. If there are indeed a significant number of people who could read this tripe and believe it to be accusing Obama of any condition that is not endemic to politicians as a whole, then that is pretty conclusive evidence that the US is perhaps slightly more primitive than the author would have them believe... :awe:
 

EndGame

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Dorothy in the Rightwing land of Oz... with danube as the scarecrow...

When not attending to her primary responsibilities as an arts and entertainment writer for the WSJ, Dorothy writes occasional hatchet jobs in the political realm, as well, pretending she's something other than a different kind of elitist, herself... Her best writing has been wrt false sexual abuse charges and television reviews... In the realm of politics, she's just another opinionated fringe-whack.

Wingnuts lap it up, of course... It strokes their erroneous zones, panders to their fears, feeds their outrage addiction...

Or, she simply does it to make libs buzz like flies on occassion and quite honestly, it works very well either way!
 

Infohawk

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So this Rabinowitz is saying Obama is a freak because he's not anti-Islam enough? Pretty lame. I'm no fan of Islam but this is just neocon rhetoric.
 

Fenixgoon

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We can't produce anywhere near the amount proportional to what we use, unless we build a lot of nuclear powerstations which won't last forever before running out of fuel, or get serious about solar power.

Using more energy isn't inherently bad, but it is when it negatively affects other countries.

if we used breeder reactors, we'd basically have infinite amounts of nuclear power.
 

werepossum

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I have to disagree with the article. Carter was every bit as much out of touch and wanted every bit as much to "fundamentally transform" America, he simply didn't have a compliant Congress also dedicated to change. You could make the case to a lesser degree about every president at least since Reagan and probably back nearly to Jefferson or so. While most presidents probably liked America more than do Obama or Carter, each had things he wished to change or changes he wished to stop. At least since Nixon each president has been at odds with a large portion of the populace, about which he probably couldn't care less. No one says I think things are absolutely great right now, so I'm going to run for president and make sure I change nothing. And every president no doubt has parts of the population that, when bad things happen to them, he is at best apathetic.
 

ericlp

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I surely don't agree with the mindset of Obama and his people all the time, but I don't mind having the Presidency go in this direction for a couple years after Bush. It seems like government is the worst when it is too ideological in any one direction, so this is just steering it a different way. I'm not worried that any one President will completely screw up the country.


I think most republicans feel this way. Ever hear of separation of church and state? Sheesh.
 
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