Cool , and so much for intel s allegedly 17w Cpu.
They perform well because they can go way beyond
the claimed TDP...
There's no question that AMD made a good chip with Kabini. And it will have its place in the value notebook market, no question. But its performance is exactly as expected for a low power core, and for that performance its power consumption is merely acceptable.
Sites numbers are more or less convergent for Kabini...
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-2013-ASeries-Kabini-and-Temash-Mobile-APUs/?page=7
Thx, but im looking for ATOM D2500/2700. If you see any pls post it here.
Thx, but im looking for ATOM D2500/2700. If you see any pls post it here.
But the numbers for Celeron/Pentium seem a bit off.
Here are numbers for Celeron 1000M from notebookcheck.net:
Idle: 8.5-12W
Load: 27-30.5W
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Toshiba-Satellite-C850-1LX-Notebook.91804.0.html
Pentium 2020M 2.4GHz:
Idle: 9.5W-14.3W
Load: 32.1-41W
http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Medion-Akoya-E7221-MD98297-Notebook.89648.0.html
Kabini A4-5000:
Idle: 5.1-10.5W
Load: 13.7-26.6W
http://www.notebookcheck.com/Kurztest-AMD-A4-5000-APU-Kabini.92708.0.html
According to notebookcheck celeron 1000m is a 35W cpu ,
so their numbers are not that reliable.
Of course their A4 5000 is also the most power hungry
of the whole web...
For the mobile experience though, it's potentially much better than any other offering at the moment unless you go really high in price.
If you want power, you need a full size notebook with an i5 or i7.
Doesn't that include the rest of the chipset, SSD, RAM & whatever else is running in the background ? If so then it is believable however for a 17W TDP part to consume this much at idle could mean that either the chip itself doesn't go into power saving mode(s) very often or the manufacturer has botched up the rest of the assembly to somehow make it eat more power than it ought to normally !From techspot review:
One area where the A4-5000 really shines is in power consumption. At just 9 watts while idle with the screen turned off and 23 watts with 100% CPU and GPU load (again the screen was off)
Sorry, but I refuse to believe that Pentium 2117U consumes 18W at idle with the screen off. Is this what you call reliable review?
Sorry, but I refuse to believe that Pentium 2117U consumes 18W at idle with the screen off. Is this what you call reliable review?
Why not ask the reviewer..??.
People need to keep in mind that Intel products have a 65nm northbridge on the board. The new Jaguar products are SoCs. The whole platform is the CPU @28nm. Also comparing an atom level NB to a full fledged IB level northbridge, the bigger northbridge will carry quite a bit more baggage on idle performance.
Review sites aren't going to be able to separate the individual components of the platform, and I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect that an atom level 28nm PCH is going to use quite significantly less power than a 65nm 7 series PCH.
This is also where Haswell is going to make some of it's biggest % impacts in notebooks with the chipset moving from 65nm to 32nm.
Thats funny because I just read the toms review and was thinking of how suckey it is.
A 35w (as in TWICE the wattage of Kabini) Pentium in a $500 laptop and a 17w (more like 20 something watt) i3 in an over $500 laptop with absolutely ZERO comparison the chip Kabini replaces or anything else in its price/power range.
I'd say the Anandtech review got it right. Toms has turned into trash.
Haswell ult/ulx are going to be SoC. Also Intel promises 50% reduction in active power an 2-3x reduction in idle power over Ivy Bridge.
http://wccftech.com/intel-details-4th-generation-haswell-power-architecture/
But no 50% reduction in prices , theses chips will cost 70%
of a whole Kabini based laptop and are directed to a different (shrinking) segment.
Jeez AMD is releasing chips for a shrinking segment.
http://techreport.com/news/24859/amd-introduces-low-power-richland-apus-for-slim-notebooks
:whiste:
The shrinking market is the over 1000$ ultrabooks segment
as i pointed it a few posts earlier while thoses CPUs will end
in systems that cost 400-600$ , Kabini being devoted to the
250-400$ segment.
Could you provide some numbers please? Netbooks are pretty much dead, thats what youd call a shrinking market. So where's Kabini focus? Smaller notebooks? Until an OEM provides a $300 Kabini-based touchscreen W8 notebook, there will be comparisons with similar but faster i3 IB ULV laptops that cost ~$400.
Could you provide some numbers please? Netbooks are pretty much dead, thats what youd call a shrinking market. So where's Kabini focus? Smaller notebooks? Until an OEM provides a $300 Kabini-based touchscreen W8 notebook, there will be comparisons with similar but faster i3 IB ULV laptops that cost ~$400.
Just add that $100 difference for an SSD and the Kabini laptop will be a better exipirence than the core i3. Slimmer design, longer battery life, lighter and with an SSD it would be the better choice.
Doesn't that include the rest of the chipset, SSD, RAM & whatever else is running in the background ? If so then it is believable however for a 17W TDP part to consume this much at idle could mean that either the chip itself doesn't go into power saving mode(s) very often or the manufacturer has botched up the rest of the assembly to somehow make it eat more power than it ought to normally !
But no 50% reduction in prices , theses chips will cost 70%
of a whole Kabini based laptop and are directed to a different (shrinking) segment.