Digitimes had a list of suppliers for the components. It was Intel and nVidia.
And we heard all that nonsense about cost over and over again....
Is that confirmed, if yes then is there a possibility that there maybe cheaper variants of Surface PRO ? I'd like to wait & watch because with win8 sales tanking MS will need to push these tablets more than ever also under a certain price point, say 500~600$ roughly, Intel parts will not be profitable for OEM's & even if they chose to go with Intel then we'll see the same atom fiasco all over again !
You cant just multithread everything, thats the point.
Cost is the one/main thing that sells around a billion(guesstimate) or so ARM chips & you just can't pretend it doesn't matter because surface Pro was indeed a major flop in part due to ~ make a wild guess btw it starts with a p & ends with an e !Digitimes had a list of suppliers for the components. It was Intel and nVidia.
And we heard all that nonsense about cost over and over again....
Cost is the one/main thing that sells around a billion(guesstimate) or so ARM chips & you just can't pretend it doesn't matter because surface Pro was indeed a major flop in part due to ~ make a wild guess btw it starts with a p & ends with an e !
CPU and GPU both running off of a single channel memory? No wonder Sony chose GDDR5 to go with it.
Temash has 1x64b DDR3@1066 MHz IIRC. A GPU displaying game graphics needs a lot of mem bandwidth. In Temash's case, this is already low, stealing b/w from the CPU cores.No wonder the other Temash review said games was CPU bound at a slideshow rate. Specially considering the TDP at that slideshow rate.
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I shiever by thinking of 8 of these cores in consoles. But again, new consoles is about TV, TV, TV and TV
It actually starts with W and ends with an 8.
Don't get me wrong, Kabini is a nice product, but it will be hard pressed in Q4 by silvermont and Haswell. Silvermont is likely to be cheaper, and Haswell will offer better performance. This is a competitive picture far more complex than Brazos when it arrived.
You cant just multithread everything, thats the point.
I just dont understand the lack of SSD controller on the SoC. No one wants to deal with a slow-as-molasses 5400rpm hard drive. And OEMs will never accept the $50 increase in BOM. So you put the NAND controller on the die and make the OEMs fork over exactly the same amount of dollars in NAND as they would on a hard drive. Then they'll use the NAND. Through clever tricks you can make a 2 channel on-die SSD controller run just as fast as a 12 channel SSD controller through a PCH and a SATA interface. It is a complete mystery why they still havent done it.... they are jsut impaling a dead horse at this point. The computing experience you get from a HDD is simply unacceptable today. Most people would prefer android vs windows with HDD, it is just too frustrating, not to mention needlessly more expensive.
No, obviously not, but you can do a fairly decent job of it. *shrug* Amdahl's Law obviously always applies, but the question is how small you can get that single threaded portion. I'm writing this on a 24 thread workstation- moar cores certainly has it's place.
We'll just have to wait and see. I expect the first generation of games to suffer, certainly, but hopefully within a year or two they'll be doing better.
See this ~CPU and GPU both running off of a single channel memory? No wonder Sony chose GDDR5 to go with it.
Of the top three or four OS available for a tablet, or tablet/hybrid PC, win8 is easily the best & its certainly not in the top 3 reasons why the surface RT/Pro flopped big time, well at least as far as I'm concerned !While I didn't care for Windows 8 on my desctop and moved back to W7, I have a W8 tablet - HP Elitepad 900 - and it is by far my favorite tablet taking both Android and Apple into consideration.
On even an Atom powered tablet I understand where Microsoft was going with W8. Just my opinion however.
From LegitReviews:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2197/4/
Holy moly! I'm really curious to see the numbers for the 25W Kabini now.
I noticed that every site compares the kabini and temash to i3s, I wonder if this is an AMD mandated move or they just think that this competes with i3 rather than pentium and celeron?
I noticed that every site compares the kabini and temash to i3s, I wonder if this is an AMD mandated move or they just think that this competes with i3 rather than pentium and celeron?
yeah, I saw the slides of it being under 13 but every site I visit with a "review" has it competing with an i3 of some sort...hell pcper had it competing against a desktop class i3AMD positions its 25W model against the lower end of the i3 i believe.
All the other models are vs celeron/pentium
gaming performance doesn't seem too bad...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5KKlxFml7Q#!
yeah, I saw the slides of it being under 13 but every site I visit with a "review" has it competing with an i3 of some sort...hell pcper had it competing against a desktop class i3
I think these guys kinda get it...maybe http://www.techspot.com/review/671-amd-a4-5000-kabini/page6.html
they are comparing 65+w desktop parts to a 15W mobile soc...theyre also testing ivb celerons and pentiums, the right matchup for the apus...
I think these guys kinda get it...maybe http://www.techspot.com/review/671-amd-a4-5000-kabini/page6.html
they are comparing 65+w desktop parts to a 15W mobile soc...theyre also testing ivb celerons and pentiums, the right matchup for the apus...