The AMD Mantle Thread

[DamnedLife]

Battlefield 4:

For people with insanely strong CPUs and really weak GPUs = ~2% perf. gain.
(ei: Core i7-4960X + Radeon R7 260X)

For people wiht insanely strong GPUs and really weak CPUs = ~41% perf. gain.
(ei: AMD A10-7700K with an AMD Radeon R9 290X)

The thing is most people go for Fx processors, and with money saved on cpu can go for stronger gpu. For me AMD FX 8350 and R9 290X, so I'm sure there are lots of people going all AMD/red just because they can save from the cpu and afford a better gpu in overall.

 

[DamnedLife]

Lol doesnt work with Crossfire yet huh? <.< oh well, atleast their still working on this.

This will mostly help people with weak CPUs, ei Phenom II users ect, or older Intel CPUs.
I actually think their are alot of people that ll probably see 20%+ increase from useing Mantle.

For R9 290(X) crossfire will work with or withouth Mantle due to XDMA.

 

[Abwx]

An hefty article at Hardware.fr, text is good enough for google translate
to be quite accurate.

http://www.hardware.fr/news/13551/amd-mantle-la-patch-bf4-10h.html

Full Mantle support

- Radeon HD 7790
- Radeon R7 260/260X
- Radeon R9 290/290X
- APU A-Series 7000

Only partialy supported :

- Radeon HD 7700/7800/7900 (sauf 7790)
- Radeon HD 8000 OEM
- Radeon R9 270/270X/280X
- Radeon HD 7700M/7800M/7900M
- Radeon HD 8000M
- Radeon R5 M230, R7 M265, R9 M290X

 

[broken_pixel]

Someone said on the BF4 forums they lauched Origin and saw a 100MB patch download.

 

[r3pshow]

From Hardwarecanucks:

Mantle can offer extreme benefits in areas which feature CPU bottlenecks but will feature more limited performance increases in GPU-bound scenarios.

Full article: Click Here

 

[broken_pixel]

And it begins..........

 

[Silverforce11]

If they can squeeze another 12% on GPU limited scenarios on i7-4960X that is impressive to me.

But more interesting in this driver, is the Dual Graphics support for Kaveri + R250.. that would make an awesome mITX cheap HTPC rig that can actually run BF4 on medium at 1080p with very good frame rate.

 

[chimaxi83]

Looks like preliminary performance and some of the known issues have Mantle firmly in the "Meh" category for me. Such hype.

 

[mindbomb]

i feel the fps numbers don't give you the whole picture. The dx version of BF4 is designed to have maximum rendering performance at all cost, and will dynamically lower quality of sound, physics, and some are speculating even network performance.

So even though you might only have 10% more fps, that doesn't reflect that the quality of the game has improved.

On the other hand, if the game is running on windows 8, and the benches are for windows 7, than the modest numbers are actually exaggerated, since this game has a dx11.1 path.

 

[SirPauly]

Great for low end, entry level CPU's and considering the hype -- very disappointing so far for higher end, GPU limited examples.

 

[Skurge]

Crossfire doesn't work? That sucks. It would probably benefit the most even with a high end CPU. I'd like to see benches with core i5 CPUs as that is what most people use.

 

[Skurge]

Crossfire doesn't work? That sucks. It would probably benefit the most even with a high end CPU. I'd like to see benches with core i5 CPUs as that is what most people use.

With that said. Pretty underwhelming. I hope the game looks better.

 

[Abwx]

Not sure but seems that the driver release is postponed according
to Hardware.fr reviewer who posted the info in the comments
section of their current Mantle article , that s half an hour
before the alleged official release.

 

[DarkKnightDude]

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=4753918&postcount=55

Driver is delayed, word came in from AMD. Not sure if DICE will release the patch. And yes, obviously you'd need both.

Damn it, so close. Oh well, I'd rather they iron out any issues before they release it. Even if they release the BF4 patch, still needs the driver.

 

[desprado]

Well it is not worth for high end pc user
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/am..._end_cpusnot_mainstream_and_high_end_pcs.html

Sliverforce11,chimax183 i was right.

 

[horza]

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[desprado]

I'm not sure what you mean by "worth it". For example a 13% improvement on-top of what is already a competitive product (prices aren't gouged in my location) seems like a nice bonus. There is no extra cost as far as I know so why is it not worth it?

"Story ends here" Bit dramatic don't you think?

Bro this bs statement and 45% balalalal is failed.
U go search my post i told them before this Mantle was all for low end cpus.

 

[Tmf]

BF4 1.23GB patch going out now!

 

[broken_pixel]

Updating, now that is a patch.

 

[horza]

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[cytg111]

Meh for high end systems? It seems to me like, WHEN they get crossfire working, it will set a new bar for HIGH in high-end! It just means that the GPU / CPU ratio is pushed towards the left. Haswell(E) and quad 290x's vs quad 780ti's .. is sorta the high-end question .. right?

 

[BrightCandle]

1.4% with a decent CPU (which you'll need for all the other games anyway, and probably already have if you own one of these cards). Well that was unfortunately expected.

I hope with future titles the benefit shows to be greater than that or this thing is dead on arrival, its only purpose being to try and sell AMD's low end CPUs. That strategy only works if everyone makes games for Mantle and that wont happen unless it has tangible benefits without having an AMD CPU.

In typical AMD style its missing a lot of key features and doesn't support most of their GPUs. I couldn't try it out if I wanted to (with my 7970's).

 

[desprado]

1.4% with a decent CPU (which you'll need for all the other games anyway, and probably already have if you own one of these cards). Well that was unfortunately expected.

I hope with future titles the benefit shows to be greater than that or this thing is dead on arrival, its only purpose being to try and sell AMD's low end CPUs. That strategy only works if everyone makes games for Mantle and that wont happen unless it has tangible benefits without having an AMD CPU.

In typical AMD style its missing a lot of key features and doesn't support most of their GPUs. I couldn't try it out if I wanted to (with my 7970's).

Intresting that it give more advantage CF.
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/news/view/bf4-mantle-live/last/
up to 55% dam wow for CF.

 

[Skurge]

Intresting that it give more advantage CF.
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/news/view/bf4-mantle-live/last/
up to 55% dam wow for CF.

A nice 25% gain for 7970 there.

 

[wand3r3r]

Intresting that it give more advantage CF.
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/news/view/bf4-mantle-live/last/
up to 55% dam wow for CF.

Whoah that is nothing short of groundbreaking (if true)! :wub:
55% increase with the best CPU and 290x crossfire? I'm amazed.