You don't buy next $500 intel server CPU to play some games.Question:
What happens say in next year when we get more powerful CPUs from Intel and AMD?
3770K + 290X, 64 players
I would still upgrade the CPU. Who doesn't want 120FPS minimums?
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Who gives about SP. Its useless bm. We all play MP, and for at typical setup with a 3770 and even a strong 290x at 1080p we are in for a 50% boost at average on the big maps where it matter. Then add:
"Besonders beachtenswert ist die minimale Framerate, welche unter Mantle deutlich höher liegt als unter Direct3D. "
Nice, but holy christ at that MSAA hit.
Looks like at 4K it gets extremely limited at that point, but impressive nevertheless. Other websites have been singleplayer?
Who gives about SP. Its useless bm. We all play MP, and for at typical setup with a 3770 and even a strong 290x at 1080p we are in for a 50% boost at average on the big maps where it matter. Then add:
"Besonders beachtenswert ist die minimale Framerate, welche unter Mantle deutlich höher liegt als unter Direct3D. "
---------------------------DirectX----------------Mantle
Siege Of Shanghai (720p) 65.4 avg / 52 min 116.1 avg / 88 min
Siege Of Shanghai (1080p) 63.8 avg / 49 min 112.2 avg / 81 min
Siege Of Shanghai (1080p, 4x MSAA) 57.7 avg / 44 min 78.2 avg / 63 min
Siege Of Shanghai (2160p) 48.9 avg / 38 min 52.2 avg / 41 min
Battlefield 4 Multiplayer (Ultra-details without MSAA, 64 player)
Yeah, now im just worried about Nvidia and Intel doing the same thing as i was from the start.
Yeah, now im just worried about Nvidia and Intel doing the same thing as i was from the start.
Don't want to go offtopic here, but nvidia have better solution from business point of view. They will stick some arm cores to the gpu that will offload driver overhead. This way they don't give free performance, but are selling it. And since nv is apple in graphics makret, people will find a lot of reasons to justify paying for that the same features.
Intel cpus benefit from mantle (dunno if as much as amd's) and they can't do much aside from making their lower end CPUs more competitive.
Everyone knows that R9 series cards are almost on par if not faster than Nvidia cards at higher resolution.
Benifiting from AMD's wider Bus.
Also the Ti is a 700$ card. So matching its performance at a lower price point is a good thing.
The 290x is also selling for $700 almost everywhere in the US now.
So, why buy it in the US? Isn't it cheaper to buy it in the EU and then send it to the US?
The 780Ti is 25% more expansive than the 290x where I live.
Intel GPU is not interesting the next 3 years for performance games at least. But i wished NV users could get this benefit (for my gaming notebook lol). Why not. We have a few handfull of engines that most games use and this kind of performance is nearly impossible or extremely expensive to buy.
Its performance exactly where its needed most.
And spending hundreds of dollars more to avoid being CPU bound is the better solution for a gamer?The problem im seeing here is what happens if nvidia and Intel launch their own APIs, that to me is really bad for the gamers.
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Everyone having their own solution is bad for us.
They hold most of the marketshare for the industry is important too.
The problem im seeing here is what happens if nvidia and Intel launch their own APIs, that to me is really bad for the gamers.
If mantle ended up giving say, 20% increase, no one whould ever cared, some improvement on DX whould make it irrelevant and no one whould remember it ever existed after a while, but the 90% on a heavily cpu scenario like BF4 multi is a problem for future games, now if that cant be done on DX, them what? because i do not belive that nvidia or Intel will adopt Mantle.
Everyone having their own solution is bad for us.
I would wait for more results from sites like Anand's. I am skeptical of those results. That is double the maximum improvement claimed by AMD themselves as a Max case. I am not saying it is impossible, but it needs to be verified.
And spending hundreds of dollars more to avoid being CPU bound is the better solution for a gamer?
rofl there are already so many tests out there its like you dont want to believe
rofl there are already so many tests out there its like you dont want to believe
They hold most of the marketshare for the industry is important too.
The problem im seeing here is what happens if nvidia and Intel launch their own APIs, that to me is really bad for the gamers.
If mantle ended up giving say, 20% increase, no one whould ever cared, some improvement on DX whould make it irrelevant and no one whould remember it ever existed after a while, but the 90% on a heavily cpu scenario like BF4 multi is a problem for future games, now if that cant be done on DX, them what? because i do not belive that nvidia or Intel will adopt Mantle.
Everyone having their own solution is bad for us.
They hold most of the marketshare for the industry is important too.
The problem im seeing here is what happens if nvidia and Intel launch their own APIs, that to me is really bad for the gamers.
If mantle ended up giving say, 20% increase, no one whould ever cared, some improvement on DX whould make it irrelevant and no one whould remember it ever existed after a while, but the 90% on a heavily cpu scenario like BF4 multi is a problem for future games, now if that cant be done on DX, them what? because i do not belive that nvidia or Intel will adopt Mantle.
Everyone having their own solution is bad for us.