Ok, so what DX features are you talking about that don't require hardware support?
I never said there are Mantle features that aren't supported by DX, just that the capability is there to have features that DX doesn't support.
No I said there are DX features that is not related to hardware.
So again, since you are so sure. What features will Mantle unlock that isnt already supported? And will mantle support all current features?
What words did I put in your mouth.
You made a completely inaccurate and false statement.
When it was pointed out you then changed it but still made it sound like your original point was valid that it was straight from AMD's mouth. In reality you simply made that up to try and discredit what was said.
Do you suffer from amnesia? You clearly changed the words that I wrote.
And I owned up to it by saying, "Ok, let me rephrase that." Did you want me to beg for forgiveness?
Because it was? My rephrased statement said that they all benefit from the hype. How is that not true?
If you are retracting what you said, then that's not the same as rephrasing. Rephrasing doesn't change the meaning of the original statement.
All of them mention better visuals/increased quality.Those visuals are even better on Mantle-enabled hardware like AMD’s Radeon™ R9, R7, and HD 7000 Series graphics cards.
There is yet another adjective which kills the argument that Mantle will only give small speed improvements. You don't use words like "dramatic" for sub 5% gains. Or ridicule, or any of the others we've heard describing the gains.lets us see dramatic increases in performance on Mantle-enabled systems.
There is another one.This allows for a vastly larger number of high-fidelity 3D objects to be rendered to the screen at the same time.
This kills the argument that Mantle wouldn't be supported because devs didn't want the extra work/expense....the low cost of including Mantle support doesn’t prevent us from developing Nitrous for all modern graphics hardware, which makes it attractive to us as businesspeople
Oxide games was set up a few weeks ago by a bunch of industry veterans. They have no games coming out soon and nothing to gain from the Mantle "hype".Q. Why are you supporting Mantle?
A. Mantle has two big things going for it. One, adding Mantle support doesn’t require us to write a whole new engine – we’re able to build Nitrous the way we want to, and it simply uses Mantle with compatible hardware. Because of that, Mantle support doesn’t cost us an absurd amount of time or money. Integrating Mantle into Nitrous isn’t trivial, but we think the benefits are easily worth the development effort on our part
It wasn't and you know it wasn't. You're tired anti-amd crap is boring.If you want to argue semantics, the first quoted words in SiliconWars' post were straight from AMD. Who's to say that isn't what I was talking about?
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Anyways, enough with you...
Is there a release date for the Mantle patch for BF4? Or is it still just sometime in December?
BF4 Mantle patch shipping in November? - https://twitter.com/repi/status/397406969335513088
I'm curious to see how cards like the 7850 run BF4 with Mantle.
Oxide Games has the Stardock CEO listed as a partner, I wonder if that means their future games like Galactic Civilizations 3 or Sins of the Solar Empire 2 will use Nitrous engine/Mantle.
Cloud Imperium Games, Eidos-Montréal and Oxide Games will join AMD and DICE in speaking about Mantle architecture and implementation at the AMD Developer Summit (APU 13), running Nov. 11-14 in San Jose, Calif. In addition, Oxide Games will be showing a public sneak preview of Mantle performance at the event.
I look forward to it.
You look forward to 290 beeing 30% faster than 780 in bf4?
At $100 cheaper, yes please. It would be good for consumers.
Agree. Nv then needs to lower 780 prices to under 320usd.
No. The plan is to sell you a similar performing card for an extra $100 then you can buy a new $400 monitor so you can use their latest and greatest new feature, GSync.
You look forward to 290 beeing 30% faster than 780 in bf4?
Considering minimum specs require 8GB of RAM, it sounds like it will be Crysis 1, but worse. I get they want their game to look great (and Mantle can help it), but having such high requirements not only alienates your user base, but makes me wonder if you're spending all that time on graphics and neglecting gameplay. Crytek said their games are 60% graphics, which is probably why I only enjoy them about 40% compared to the average FPS.