And that with Oxide observing it's a pre-alpha build they've only had for two months, they have barely started to do GPU optimizations and in general have just 'scratched the surface' of Mantle's potential.
GDC in March will be interesting.
DirectX bottlenecks ~15k batches with best CPU on market, performance plumets by huge amounts after that point.
on mantle, you can do 80k-100k without issue.
"At application level, starswarm is 3 faster in some cases"
Imagine running directX and getting 20 fps in a game, compaired to running mantle and getting 60 fps.
A 3 times speed up is huge, certainly more than just the ~20% some people have been saying it ll likely only amount to.
Nothing only talks and Slide and that is Mantle.What does the rumor mill say about the Mantle patch for Battlefield 4 not being out yet? Did they run into some last minute bugs, or are the performance gains not as good as promised?
Typical AMD style still hyping with no result or benchmark.Here some frantic will carry on and hype and when they see the performance they will disappear for year or so until AMD comes with new hype.
Some people wont get this All these Slides are made by AMD and its gaming Evolved partners nothing new and of course they say every thing good and sweet is called marketing tricks until u see real performance.Every thing has its negative and positive and it is impossible that Mantle will not have any thing negative so it is not magic which frantic describe as.
Every thing has its negative and positive and it is impossible that Mantle will not have any thing negative so it is not magic which frantic describe as.
What does the rumor mill say about the Mantle patch for Battlefield 4 not being out yet? Did they run into some last minute bugs, or are the performance gains not as good as promised?
Discerning nothing I consider rational or valid in the above paragraphs.
desprado said:
Do u know how much performance improvement it will give or what results it will give and if u dont know that plz stop make useless predictionWhat's the difference about what you say? Telling us that Mantle has no future, it's only a hype, that it will not give that much improvements, etc .. if it's not based on something real, then your claims are as worthless as mine/ours.
Don't get me wrong, you are free to say that you want, but so are we.
Anybody who knows something about programming will tell you that removing abstraction layers, speeds up your code where it's limited by the abstraction. In this special cases, the improvements can be quite big. But, in others it can have zero impact in performance.
Yes, it's more complicate to develop, but why should we as customers care? We are not doing it the heavy lifting ...
Do u know how much performance improvement it will give or what results it will give and if u dont know that plz stop make useless prediction
ThisWhat is it that makes you feel compelled to trash talk this thread that much.
Let them get excited about Mantle, Why do you even care lol ? ..
Browsing through the last 20 or so pages, You are doing NOTHING but saying what I quoted.
Its boring, annoying and makes browsing this thread for news longer..
People making worthless claims with no actual results that is called frantic and u can find the meaning on google if u dont know the meaning.People who making Slides and talking are of course paid heavy amount by AMD and no one will involve until they get paid or see their own benefits that is called business which u do not get.
Of Course there will be improvement but not as many people dream of getting 20 to 50%.
I am saying this performance will depended on AMD base system not just AMD GPU.
Do u know how much performance improvement it will give or what results it will give and if u dont know that plz stop make useless prediction
All the Civ games are turn based, they are not RTS games at all. Civ5 (which I own), would never work as a real time strategy game. Dune2 was a RTS, the first one I ever played back in the day.Wow. For the first time we get some serious change of the rts games. I think civ5 basicly looks and plays like dune2. Lol. Now this could actually give us some different true 3d rts games.
There is lots of interesting stuff. I especially notice the "there is no lead thread". How is that possible ???
People making worthless claims with no actual results that is called frantic and u can find the meaning on google if u dont know the meaning.
What does the rumor mill say about the Mantle patch for Battlefield 4 not being out yet? Did they run into some last minute bugs, or are the performance gains not as good as promised?
I would expect it is related to the general stability bugs which Battlefield 4 has suffered from on all platforms. DICE have announced that development on all future products and releases is on hold until they get BF4 stable; I expect that the Mantle patch falls into that category.
DICE doesn't work on Mantle. The entire Frostbite team isn't part of DICE anymore.
https://twitter.com/repi/status/410451568740139009
DICE doesn't work on Mantle. The entire Frostbite team isn't part of DICE anymore.
https://twitter.com/repi/status/410451568740139009