The AMD Mantle Thread

[blackened23]

So when's the AMD Mantle driver going to be ready? Is it still Q1 2014 or did AMD narrow it down? They're probably going to wait a bit for DICE to fix their game, like you said. Rushing isn't the way to go, I completely agree.

I did see a press release from AMD at CES which stated that Mantle will require a driver update. Like I said, it stated that driver would be released in Q1 2014 but i'm thinking a more specific timeframe would have been mentioned somewhere. Q1 goes until April right? I don't think AMD would wait THAT long to get Mantle out there. Probably in January. I don't know though.

 

[Slomo4shO]

This is interesting:

 

[blackened23]

Dude, that slide has been out for a while!

I do agree though, claims without context or proof is interesting. I look forward to the AMD Mantle driver to see what it brings! Hopefully it will be this month and not the latter part of Q1.

 

[NIGELG]

I hope AMD is not making outrageous claims for Mantle.

 

[Slomo4shO]

Dude, that slide has been out for a while!

I do agree though, claims without context or proof is interesting. I look forward to the AMD Mantle driver to see what it brings! Hopefully it will be this month and not the latter part of Q1.

Reading the source goes a long way... but then again that would hinder your troll attempts...

The Oxide demo with A8-7600 APU runs below 10 FPS in DirectX mode but reaches past 30 FPS with Mantle API which is a huge gain and something we could expect in Battlefield 4 when the update arrives this month

Also, from the looks of the slides, 14.1 may be released with the APUs this Tuesday.


Next time I see you posting nonsense you will be on vacation and forbidden to post in the Mantle thread as well.

-Rvenger

 

[Stuka87]

Dude, that slide has been out for a while!

I do agree though, claims without context or proof is interesting. I look forward to the AMD Mantle driver to see what it brings! Hopefully it will be this month and not the latter part of Q1.

Did you read the article?

I found this slide more interesting:

 

[blackened23]

Oh, I see. Well I was more looking for proof. Although you're suggesting that AMD marketing slides are proof? Uhm I don't know!. Although AMD marketing slides have been 100% accurate and based on reality 100% of the time in the past. That said, for some skeptics, I guess we'll wait and see whenever the Q1 2014 Mantle driver in is released along with BF4 Mantle.

I'm just trying to connect the dots here. There's a BF4 Mantle slide showing 45%. But no Bf4 Mantle benchmarks. Then the Mantle driver is Q1 2014.

Like I said. Just connecting the dots. I'm anxious to see how mantle really does. Should be interesting.

 

[DamnedLife]

MSI GX70 (M290X) running BF4 mantle.

M290X = 8970M = 7870 downclocked

5760X1080 - HIGH - 30FPS

http://www.nordichardware.se/CES2014/vi-spelar-mantle-versionen-av-bf4-i-eyefinity-pa-en-laptop.html

Crashes will be fixed and when it does it will be amazing just look at this setup.

 

[Slomo4shO]

for some skeptics

Oh the irony... :whiste:

 

[MeldarthX]

Dude, that slide has been out for a while!

I do agree though, claims without context or proof is interesting. I look forward to the AMD Mantle driver to see what it brings! Hopefully it will be this month and not the latter part of Q1.

Driver has to be this month if you look at as it will be 14.1; AMD's always done year and month in driver releases.

14 is 2014; 1 is January......so its this month which happens to be in first quarter

 

[96Firebird]

I thought I read somewhere that AMD was ditching the monthly driver releases for quarterly releases...

 

[MeldarthX]

I thought I read somewhere that AMD was ditching the monthly driver releases for quarterly releases...

For cert drivers yes; but beta still following same formula. year/month......so 14.1 betas will be out this year.

Since BF4 is being patched today *which isn't a patch day* its to say most likely possibly mantle patch released tomorrow maybe or next week with new beta drivers.

 

[Stuka87]

I thought I read somewhere that AMD was ditching the monthly driver releases for quarterly releases...

Getting drivers certified by MS on a monthly basis is a major headache. So WHQL drivers get released quarterly. Beta's get released multiple times a month sometimes, with a non beta (but not certified) once a month.

 

[blackened23]

Driver has to be this month if you look at as it will be 14.1; AMD's always done year and month in driver releases.

14 is 2014; 1 is January......so its this month which happens to be in first quarter

I'm just going by what AMD stated:

Q1 2014. Q1 obviously includes January though? So you're probably right. But like I said, just going by what AMD stated, so I don't know. So the Mantle update is between now and April, with January being likely by what you're saying. AMD probably gave themselves leeway JUST IN CASE their driver team is slow to get things going. Not that slow driver bug fixes has ever happened in the past for AMD with frametime or eyefinity CF fixes (how long has it been? Not long I don't think), i'm guessing you're correct that it will be released this month. 14.1 would indicate January, so hopefully the 290 users will get some mantle goodies really soon. Along with a fixed BF4.

What's the naming convention for driver releases on the AMD side? Seems that it has changed. 14 is the major revision, does the .1 indicate January? I haven't followed, just curious.

 

[Nintendesert]

Do we know what AMD's definition of Q1 is? January -> end of March?

 

[Paul98]

I'm just going by what AMD stated:

Q1 2014. Q1 obviously includes January though? So you're probably right. But like I said, just going by what AMD stated, so I don't know. So the Mantle update is between now and April, with January being likely by what you're saying. AMD probably gave themselves leeway JUST IN CASE their driver team is slow to get things going. Not that slow driver bug fixes has ever happened in the past for AMD with frametime or eyefinity CF fixes (how long has it been? Not long I don't think), i'm guessing you're correct that it will be released this month. 14.1 would indicate January, so hopefully the 290 users will get some mantle goodies really soon. Along with a fixed BF4.

What's the naming convention for driver releases on the AMD side? Seems that it has changed. 14 is the major revision, does the .1 indicate January? I haven't followed, just curious.

That is what I would guess also they are targeting January, but if it gets pushed back they don't want people angry. So say Q1 so if it does get pushed passed January people won't get angry.

Who knows maybe we will get lucky and it will be released this week.

 

[MeldarthX]

I'm just going by what AMD stated:

Q1 2014. Q1 obviously includes January though? So you're probably right. But like I said, just going by what AMD stated, so I don't know. So the Mantle update is between now and April, with January being likely by what you're saying. AMD probably gave themselves leeway JUST IN CASE their driver team is slow to get things going. Not that slow driver bug fixes has ever happened in the past for AMD with frametime or eyefinity CF fixes (how long has it been? Not long I don't think), i'm guessing you're correct that it will be released this month. 14.1 would indicate January, so hopefully the 290 users will get some mantle goodies really soon. Along with a fixed BF4.

What's the naming convention for driver releases on the AMD side? Seems that it has changed. 14 is the major revision, does the .1 indicate January? I haven't followed, just curious.

Come on black everyone knows when AMD names their betas 14.1 its year then month for release. This has been the practice for last few years. Mantle patch won't mean much without the drivers so no they aren't going to wait until April to release.

They will release the betas this month; most likely this; or to next week for the betas; depending if its tomorrow or next week for mantle patch.

 

[Freaksterz]

Where can you read on BF4 patch notes etc?

 

[bystander36]

What's the naming convention for driver releases on the AMD side? Seems that it has changed. 14 is the major revision, does the .1 indicate January? I haven't followed, just curious.

14 is the year, .1 is the month.

I thought AMD released themselves from static update times. I thought last year, or near the end of 2012, they changed their policy to only update drivers when they need to be and are ready, not based on a monthly update cycle. That means they may update them multiple times a month, or once a year. This is a good policy change, as they can focus on what needs to be changed, rather than trying to beat a deadline.

 

[dacostafilipe]

Where can you read on BF4 patch notes etc?

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/forum/threadview/2955064772343296656/


Nothing about Mantle on it.

 

[blackened23]

Come on black everyone knows when AMD names their betas 14.1 its year then month for release. This has been the practice for last few years. Mantle patch won't mean much without the drivers so no they aren't going to wait until April to release.

They will release the betas this month; most likely this; or to next week for the betas; depending if its tomorrow or next week for mantle patch.

Huh? Everyone knows? Well I didn't know. And more confusing was the fact that AMD said Q1 2014, not sure why they'd say that if Jan was set in stone. But thanks for clarifying for me.

In any case, it'll be interesting to see how Mantle does. Do you think it's coming on the 14th? BF4 with Mantle and the driver, that is. That's tomorrow!

 

[smackababy]

Huh? Everyone knows? Well I didn't know. And more confusing was the fact that AMD said Q1 2014, not sure why they'd say that if Jan was set in stone. But thanks for clarifying for me.

In any case, it'll be interesting to see how Mantle does. Do you think it's coming on the 14th? BF4 with Mantle and the driver, that is. That's tomorrow!

I didn't know that either. I thought it was version.subversion.build type of naming convention. year.month is just silly.

 

[MeldarthX]

Huh? Everyone knows? Well I didn't know. And more confusing was the fact that AMD said Q1 2014, not sure why they'd say that if Jan was set in stone. But thanks for clarifying for me.

In any case, it'll be interesting to see how Mantle does. Do you think it's coming on the 14th? BF4 with Mantle and the driver, that is. That's tomorrow!

I think more likely its coming next week - we know mantle is coming this month. We know mantle won't work without mantle driver support; thus that has to come this month also.....

I think Dice is pushing the patch today - *which isn't patch day* to either test to see what's fixed and see if things are stable enough to push out mantle tomorrow........or next week patch....Because its really odd patch was pushed today and not normal patch day

But its guess work.....either way until the bomb is dropped. Second we know for a fact mantle patch has to come soon as Thief will be dropping in Feb.....so we know we have to have mantle driver before then also; so has to be this month

 

[MeldarthX]

I didn't know that either. I thought it was version.subversion.build type of naming convention. year.month is just silly.

Year/Month is something AMD's done since they switched to a monthly rotation on drivers to get them up to scratch. Why they always released way they did. 12.9; yep 2012/September release, 12.10; 2012/Oct release etc...

People asked and AMD say that's correct; they line up for release sched; they've kept it that way even after abandoning the monthly releases.

 

[sushiwarrior]

As far as I know, the issue is not getting Mantle to work, it's Dice taking forever to fix the problems with normal BF4 and not wanting to look bad by adding Mantle before they fix problems they're getting sued over.

Other Mantle things, like that Swarm demo, are not allowed to be released before the BF4 patch, at the request of Dice.