Samll improvements are all SP,
and in MP large improvements, but why still different? Because MP that's why, you can't control what other people will do..
you should ignore sites that test multiplayer on empty servers
A new multiplayer test with a comparison with Nvidia as well
http://pclab.pl/art55953-3.html
I don't believe one should look too much into AMD's worse DirectX performance for BF4, AMD doesn't really have any incentive to make specific optimizations for BF4 DX when those cards will just use Mantle instead
Multiplayer results are the wow factor:
(because of more CPU stress in these situations)
From: http://www.golem.de/news/amds-mantle-api-im-test-der-prozessor-katalysator-1402-104261-3.html
AMD had no way to test multiplayer, where the big gains were always likely to come.
I can't quite figure out if some people are being deliberately obtuse over this or just not seeing the simple facts.
At 1080p and below Mantle is going to be mind-blowing good - basically in any game. The main reason the gains fall off a cliff at 1600p and above is due to there being hardly any of the GPU optimizations done so far.
Everything you are seeing from BF4 Mantle is down to the basic CPU gains.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1824246&postcount=956
The bolded parts are what matters.
Btw whoever asked (was it cloudfire777?) about what will happen with faster CPU's next year...the real question is what will happen with even faster GPUs, considering GPU increases at 10x the rate of CPU? Mantle is just going to improve with every year.
Wow and lOl so Mantle cannot beat nvidia driver when it comes to high end PCs.
30% gain on a 290X with a 4770K.
Multiplayer results are the wow factor:
(because of more CPU stress in these situations)
From: http://www.golem.de/news/amds-mantle-api-im-test-der-prozessor-katalysator-1402-104261-3.html
Core i7-3770K + 290x (tiny OC):
1920x1080 (no aa)
63,8 fps (dx11) vs 112,2 fps (mantle) (~75% perf. gain)
On smaller CPUs:
A10-7850k + 290:
DX11 = 31,9 fps
Mantle = 58,9 fps (~85% perf gain)
i3-4330 + 290:
dx11 = 43,3 fps
mantle = 79,7 fps (~84% perf gain)
Huge differnces in performance in multiplayer mode.
This does not surprise. I think i5 systems stand to see the best gains, since they are lacking in BF4 multiplayer. I would of preferred to see at least a 270 used though.
As is common practice, the same portion of the mission will be run three times and the results averaged.
You are saying a review site has the resources to test multiplayer and amd doesn't? Seriously?
Industry cares way more about low end and mainstream sector, 290x performance gains are bit of irrelevant for gaming industry, maybe not as much as 290X CF, but it still is.
But lets forget about all that for a moment, if mantle success, what do you think Nvidia and Intel will do? do you really belive they gona implement mantle?
Going for another solution does not help gamers, at all. Mantle is already not a good solution by itselft for AMD own cards, and im not talking about performance numbers here.
Now we just need to find someone who paired Hawaii with a dual core or APU.
That was singleplayer mission:
Wow and lOl so Mantle cannot beat nvidia driver when it comes to high end PCs.
I dont know.
There are plenty of people buying high end GPUs. People always spend more money on the GPU then the CPU.
Also, so you are afraid that following the course of Mantle, Intel & Nvidia will come out with their own API.
So what..??
We have to ignore the performance gains of mantle just because Intel & Nvidia may make their own API.
Are telling us to blame mantle for the improvements it brings.?
No need to progress forward, just sit stagnated with whatever you got.
wow any result in favor of mantle is true and where it expose mantle than it false so u have very nice logic indeed.If you believe Mantle only gains 1.8 fps going from an i3 to i7, which seems...not very likely. That looks like a flawed test.
If you believe Mantle only gains 1.8 fps going from an i3 to i7, which seems...not very likely. That looks like a flawed test.
Not really, they didn't specify how they tested multiplayer and most importantly: if the multiplayer was full 64 player server or empty. Affects CPU load massively.http://pclab.pl/art55953-3.html very good test
yes.................but it is advantage to Nvidia.Wow, thought that was multiplayer.
With gains like this on i7 CPUs, i5 gains should be even larger.
If you dont mind buying 2 cards thats fine, but im not gona do that.
Can u post the link where it says it is 50% faster or if not than do be fanboy and dont provide false data.
U could get banned by false statement
wow any result in favor of mantle is true and where it expose mantle than it false so u have very nice logic indeed.
Johan told me to ignore websites that bench on an empty server.