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JEDI

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Crypto is cratering. Boo hoo.
btc = $23.6k @9am

microstrategy (defacto btc stock substitute if you dont want to do wallets+fees) dropped to $150/share premarket.

when btc = $10k (55% drop from today's price), i'm going all in with my ATOT $ into MicroStrategy.
So putting in a buy order for MSTR @ $65.

If i fail, i'm going to be living in the woods with whats his name
 

Mai72

Lifer
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Or people that buy fake rings and fake rolex from some con-man at a gas station. Scammers always have existed for the sole reason that dumb people have always existed. Shall I say cash is shit and should be forbidden becasue some idiots pay $200 for a fake $3 china rolex?

but but but... some 19 year old kid on YouTube told me that Baby Doge was going to make me MILLIONS!!! He had a fancy graph on the screen, and was talking about buying lambos and mansions.

I was going to be rich!!!
 

JEDI

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eh, i'd rather have the coins directly instead of having the self-appointed high priest of bitcoin managing them for me
but high btc fees (buying and selling) vs zero commission from my brokerage firm?

plus the hassle of setting up a wallet.
and figuring out how to pay and then moving funds
 

Stopsignhank

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BFG10K

Lifer
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Like clockwork the collusion cartels kick in and block transactions due to "extreme market conditions" and "stuck on-chain transaction", whatever the fuck that even means. Imaginary phrases making excuses for imaginary things failing.


It's funny, a few pages ago cryptobros told us exchange closures weren't intentional but rather caused by "network overloading", lulz.

"Crypto is the future utopia because no central authority controls your assets!" - The Internet Cryptobros
 
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Newbie question: what are the elements/factors causing a market crash? Does it have anything to do with the whales who want to cause the crash so they can buy the shares of the smaller players for pennies and put themselves in an even stronger position?
 

dullard

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Newbie question: what are the elements/factors causing a market crash? Does it have anything to do with the whales who want to cause the crash so they can buy the shares of the smaller players for pennies and put themselves in an even stronger position?
Infinite supply = zero long term price.

While one specific cryptocurrency could be limited in supply, there is an unlimited number of cryptocurrencies that can exist. For example, Bitcoin is famously limited in supply. But I could create Bitcoin2, B1tcoin, Bitc0in, Bitco;n, etc. Thus, there are an unlimited supply of coins. The only possible long term price is thus zero.

Short term, whales can cause crypto prices to skyrocket (and they have done so). Just keep buying and holding and prices skyrocket. I could for example pay myself $1 million per hair on my head. That would cause my head to be worth a fortune. Then I can keep buying and pay myself $1 billion per hair. I'd be the richest person on the face of the planet (pun intended). Repeated buying and holding works very well short term. The problem comes when I go to sell. As soon as I try to sell even one of my hairs, I'll find out the true price. The true price is $0 and I go from being a theoretical trillionaire to impoverished overnight. Same thing with crypto. As soon as people want to sell the high prices (on paper) plunge. That is how all bubbles pop (tulip boom, dot com boom, crypto boom, etc). Only with robust selling can you know the true price.
 
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njdevilsfan87

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While one specific cryptocurrency could be limited in supply, there is an unlimited number of cryptocurrencies that can exist. For example, Bitcoin is famously limited in supply. But I could create Bitcoin2, B1tcoin, Bitc0in, Bitco;n, etc. Thus, there are an unlimited supply of coins. The only possible long term price is thus zero.

Bitcoin2 != Bitcoin

Thus, it will not have any impact on Bitcoin's price. Unless it actually ends up somehow becoming the Bitcoin replacement, if there is ever to be one.
 

dullard

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Bitcoin2 != Bitcoin

Thus, it will not have any impact on Bitcoin's price. Unless it actually ends up somehow becoming the Bitcoin replacement, if there is ever to be one.
But that is the thing. They are the same in the long term. One bushel of sweet corn is the same as another. One barrel of light sweet crude oil is the same as another. They are all commodities. There is nothing special or magical about Bitcoin. It is just a commodity unless there is regulation protecting it.
 

njdevilsfan87

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Bitcoin is backed by a huge amount of hash power supporting the network ensuring the odds a 51% attack, or any sort of hostile takeover are near zero. You can safely use the Bitcoin network. That's not the case for Bitcoin2 or any of your clones.
 
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