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Heartbreaker

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Apr 3, 2006
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Sounds like it's really happening around mid September. They have completely the final test runs, and the merge will be triggered by TTD:

The terminal total difficulty has been set to 58750000000000000000000. This means the ethereum PoW network now has a (roughly) fixed number of hashes left to mine. https://bordel.wtf predicts the merge will happen around Sep 15, though the exact date depends on hashrate.
 

KMFJD

Lifer
Aug 11, 2005
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i really am sensing a pattern here with this stuff

 
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Fenixgoon

Lifer
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i really am sensing a pattern here with this stuff



a pyramid-shaped one, perhaps?
 
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Muse

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Jul 11, 2001
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I have done zero crypto.

Saw story on TV news yesterday on a network local station (SF Bay Area) about people getting bilked online. Social media, e.g dating sites, or sophisticated websites ultimately get people to install an app that hacks their computer, cell phone and ransacks their savings. Somehow this involves crypto currencies. They counseled people to not download apps unless they are sure of their legitimacy. Not from a webpage, or text message for instance. Google Play Store OK, but that can be mimicked. Same with Apple app store. Some of the victims have had their entire life savings lost, found themselves living a nightmare. Once installed, even deleting the malicious apps may not eliminate them. They called this type of scam "pig butchering" and it's on the rise.

Here's the story:

 
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drnickriviera

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I'd like to know more about that scam. I've had to download a few apk's and android made me go through a bunch just to get them to install. Or is this just hype reporting and it really isn't 1 click?

edit. I see it further down. Not some 1 click hack.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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I wanted to get in on some ASICs at one point. Years ago me and a few coworkers were going to all put our money together and buy one, then buy more as we make money. But the more we looked into it the more scammy it seemed. It was just not possible to actually GET one without prepaying, and waiting in line, or other weird stuff like that. Then we started thinking, why would manufacturers sell these and not use them instead, if using them would yield more money. And if it's more profitable to sell them, then why should I buy one if I'm making less money in the end than what it costs? The more we started to think of it the more we decided it was not worth the risk. I guess long term you will make more money than the 1 time cost of buying it, but if it takes 10+ years for that, is it really worth it? The idea seemed fun at the time though. Having server stuff humming away in my basement and actually getting paid for it sounds cool on the surface. I mean sure, I could do web hosting but most ISPs don't allow servers, so it rules that out, but mining is not really a server or a bandwidth intensive operation.

I GPU mined ethereum for a while and was making money, but it was not enough to make it worthwhile as it's too hard to buy GPUs at scale to actually grow the operation. When I found out they tax it then I just got out of it as by the time I figure out all that stuff, possibly hire an accountant etc it was just not worth it. I'd lose more than I gain. With a good accountant there could have been a way to set it up as a corporation though, and actually write off equipment.
 

DrMrLordX

Lifer
Apr 27, 2000
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Sounds like a messy game to play:

At least in the case of dGPUs, people can liquidate them on the used market. ASICs are task-specific. There's no use for them outside of running one hashing algorithm. It's either point them at the ETH clones or throw them in the dumpster.

But yes, in general, there's going to be an enormous glut of available hashpower which will drive up difficulty on a lot of projects, resulting in mining operations becoming massive dumpster fires.
 
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At least in the case of dGPUs, people can liquidate them on the used market. ASICs are task-specific. There's no use for them outside of running one hashing algorithm. It's either point them at the ETH clones or throw them in the dumpster.

But yes, in general, there's going to be an enormous glut of available hashpower which will drive up difficulty on a lot of projects, resulting in mining operations becoming massive dumpster fires.

How actually specialized are they though? Aren't some on FPGAs where the hardware actually could be repurposed?
 

DrMrLordX

Lifer
Apr 27, 2000
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How actually specialized are they though? Aren't some on FPGAs where the hardware actually could be repurposed?

No, I think they're ASICs in the truest sense of the word. I could be wrong (having never owned one), but I know the BTC ASICs are not reprogrammable at all. Presumably the Ethereum ASICs are the same way.
 

BFG10K

Lifer
Aug 14, 2000
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The merge will either fail or it'll be forked back to mining. No way those people who run warehouses filled with thousands of GPUs will simply say "welp, time to sell everything at a loss and move to the country to smell the roses!"
 
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