They can always try. Freedom of speech and all that....How can it be hit with cease and desist? It is not a documentary right?
As I understand it, it was basically just Trump's lawyers threatening to sue. Trump threatening to sue people is almost a reflex at this point.How can it be hit with cease and desist? It is not a documentary right?
The director is a Dane/Iranian who wants to make movies critical to those who have power, so I guess it might not be the most flattering to his ego.Trump's probably pissed 'cause he wasn't cut into the deal and didn't have a say in how he was to be portrayed.
Seems valid to me.Trump's probably pissed 'cause he wasn't cut into the deal and didn't have a say in how he was to be portrayed.
I don't know if it is meant to sway voters or if it is released to maximize ticket salesIf you ask me, it comes too little and too late.
I'm the first to argue that any "historical docu-drama" should be scrutinized under a magnifier of cross-verification from factual sources. For instance, it took some time but I conclude that Oliver Stone's "JFK" and "Nixon" are fairly accurate portrayals of history. The criticism of JFK by Pat Buchanan was based on objections to "Mr. X" (Donald Sutherland portraying L. Fletcher Prouty), and changes in the names of one or two people who didn't want their real names to appear in the film.
The Base is never going to pay attention to "The Apprentice" anyway. It might influence fence-sitters and uncommitted Independents. But those people are either stupid for not keeping themselves informed, or they're indifferent to the dire aspects of current day politics.
Well, if its critical and Trump wins, he might just get the Khashoggi teatment...I don't know if it is meant to sway voters or if it is released to maximize ticket sales
I don't know if it is meant to sway voters or if it is released to maximize ticket sales
A rational person can look into indications of that, either way or both, if you think it's important enough to devote your time.I don't know if it is meant to sway voters or if it is released to maximize ticket sales
Yea, people who make at most 150k a year are controlling our lives. Sure.A rational person can look into indications of that, either way or both, if you think it's important enough to devote your time.
My brother, whose "opinions" I tolerate because he's the only family I have left, has been a rabid Trump supporter, probably since 2015. The other day when I was visiting him 450 miles from here, he suggested to me in a rhetorical question that "Trump had gone to Harvard University". I want him to ask himself -- not for me but for himself -- how, and why he never informed himself about the postsecondary education of his consistent presidential candidate, for a continuous period of 9 years.
Why would a rational person fail to do that in adopting a particular partisan political advocacy for a candidate?
I would hope the film has the intention of swaying voters by informing them. People are naive as to the meaning of the word "propaganda". I had spoken to a used-bookstore owner several months ago, discussing something as "anti-communist propaganda". The man went absolutely ballistic, arguing that "there has never been a case or indication that communism ever worked as a form of political organization." Of course not! But he just naturally assumed that since this was True, there could be no such thing as "anti-communist propaganda". For instance, the John Frankenheimer movie "The Manchurian Candidate" was promoted and influenced by CIA's involvement with the film industry in the 1950s and early 1960s, and it is an example of "anti-communist propaganda".
There are three types of propaganda: White propaganda, gray propaganda and black propaganda. That last category explains the first two: black propaganda propagates absolute Falsehoods, and there is only no risk of exposing it if the information about the Truth is totally or mostly inaccessible or costly. In our current circumstances, the information is available and costless, but some people refuse to examine it by accessing its sources.
What concerns me more than anything is GOP Trump supporter refusal to examine other news sources than FOX, or their failure to inform themselves about their candidate. They actually believe that the adverse factual evidence about Trump is mostly black or gray propaganda, because it doesn't support their beliefs and sentiments. My brother believes that the "mainstream media" -- ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS etc. -- are "controlled by the government". Who, exactly? Bureaucrats or civil servants in the NOAA, CIA, DOD, DOE, etc.? By what means, I ask -- FCC regulations, with which FOX must also comply? So I am alarmed that so many citizen-voters do not adequately inform themselves to their decisions, my brother being a case in point.
A rational person can look into indications of that, either way or both, if you think it's important enough to devote your time.
My brother, whose "opinions" I tolerate because he's the only family I have left, has been a rabid Trump supporter, probably since 2015. The other day when I was visiting him 450 miles from here, he suggested to me in a rhetorical question that "Trump had gone to Harvard University". I want him to ask himself -- not for me but for himself -- how, and why he never informed himself about the postsecondary education of his consistent presidential candidate, for a continuous period of 9 years.
Why would a rational person fail to do that in adopting a particular partisan political advocacy for a candidate?
I would hope the film has the intention of swaying voters by informing them. People are naive as to the meaning of the word "propaganda". I had spoken to a used-bookstore owner several months ago, discussing something as "anti-communist propaganda". The man went absolutely ballistic, arguing that "there has never been a case or indication that communism ever worked as a form of political organization." Of course not! But he just naturally assumed that since this was True, there could be no such thing as "anti-communist propaganda". For instance, the John Frankenheimer movie "The Manchurian Candidate" was promoted and influenced by CIA's involvement with the film industry in the 1950s and early 1960s, and it is an example of "anti-communist propaganda".
There are three types of propaganda: White propaganda, gray propaganda and black propaganda. That last category explains the first two: black propaganda propagates absolute Falsehoods, and there is only no risk of exposing it if the information about the Truth is totally or mostly inaccessible or costly. In our current circumstances, the information is available and costless, but some people refuse to examine it by accessing its sources.
What concerns me more than anything is GOP Trump supporter refusal to examine other news sources than FOX, or their failure to inform themselves about their candidate. They actually believe that the adverse factual evidence about Trump is mostly black or gray propaganda, because it doesn't support their beliefs and sentiments. My brother believes that the "mainstream media" -- ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS etc. -- are "controlled by the government". Who, exactly? Bureaucrats or civil servants in the NOAA, CIA, DOD, DOE, etc.? By what means, I ask -- FCC regulations, with which FOX must also comply? So I am alarmed that so many citizen-voters do not adequately inform themselves to their decisions, my brother being a case in point.
Seems valid to me.
Easy for me to say because this sort of thing is scarce as hens teeth in this Democratic enclave (Berkeley and environs), but I would not patronize any institution that had Fox News on a TV.My son was exposed to constant FOX exposure because his boss would only allow that source of "news" to be shown in the breakroom. This happened in a federal civil service organization. He'd come up with FOX influenced disinformation and lies out of nowhere in a disturbing manner and when I asked him where he'd heard that drivel, well sure enough...Same with this tire repair shop I liked where the customer waiting room with a very large TV screen was permanently fixed on FOX. Of course, at any one time there'd be quite a few customers in there and the only ones to speak up about what was being broadcast were irate Trump supporters agreeing with whatever FOX talking head was spewing at them. These people couldn't help themselves from talking out loud to the heavens and themselves as if they were in an entranced state of mind.
That's the level of indoctrination these people had gone through exclusively viewing FOX propaganda. It was amazing as well as outright scary to see how addicted they were to the hate, fear and suspicion they harbored from being FOX fanatics.
Don’t knock the tradespeople, they may be wealthier than you think and are part of Trump’s core demographic. If you ever wondered why blue collar workers would ever have a soft spot for private equity bankers—wonder no more:Easy for me to say because this sort of thing is scarce as hens teeth in this Democratic enclave (Berkeley and environs), but I would not patronize any institution that had Fox News on a TV.
Plumber friend of mine, just retired, recommended a plumber he knew, but revealed that he's a Fox News junky. I told him there's no way I'd let him in my house, period. He said, you don't have to discuss politics with him. I countered, "how smart can he be if he watches Fox News?"
Smart enough to fix the plumbing that you can't.Easy for me to say because this sort of thing is scarce as hens teeth in this Democratic enclave (Berkeley and environs), but I would not patronize any institution that had Fox News on a TV.
Plumber friend of mine, just retired, recommended a plumber he knew, but revealed that he's a Fox News junky. I told him there's no way I'd let him in my house, period. He said, you don't have to discuss politics with him. I countered, "how smart can he be if he watches Fox News?"
What on earth makes you think that? I didn't chance it and have no confidence he would have been up to the task. My friend just retired plumber was way too smart to watch FN and he couldn't fix it. Why would I expect that other guy to be able to? He is obviously a dunce. And you aren't too smart yourself, as we all know.Smart enough to fix the plumbing that you can't.
Having money doesn't make a person smart.Don’t knock the tradespeople, they may be wealthier than you think and are part of Trump’s core demographic. If you ever wondered why blue collar workers would ever have a soft spot for private equity bankers—wonder no more:
Easy for me to say because this sort of thing is scarce as hens teeth in this Democratic enclave (Berkeley and environs), but I would not patronize any institution that had Fox News on a TV.
Plumber friend of mine, just retired, recommended a plumber he knew, but revealed that he's a Fox News junky. I told him there's no way I'd let him in my house, period. He said, you don't have to discuss politics with him. I countered, "how smart can he be if he watches Fox News?"
Are you sure fix-a-flat doesn’t stop oil leaks? Seems reasonable that it would.You're a whole lot smart enough to leave the difficult jobs to the pros rather than getting yourself wading in DIY knee deep doodoo with the pro coming in afterward being really pissed off having to go the extra mile to unfuck and clean up the mess the do-it-yerselfer left behind for them.
Happens quite often where somebody off the street brings in something to our shop that they really screwed up trying to Macgyver their way into a fix, when all it did was make things worse, especially when it's parts that need an overhead crane to move it around.