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Childs

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It will certainly help. I have 680 SLI and i'm visiting triple digit FPS quite often with excellent scaling.

Its the cheapest and quickest way to go, but since neither my CPU or GPU is maxed I think something else is wrong.
 

2is

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Apr 8, 2012
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Yup. I dont want to upgrade if possible, but that thought has crossed my mind.

I didn't either. I was trying to convince myself performance was "good enough" not to warrant an upgrade, but I also knew both my CPU and GPU scaling wasn't where it should be, and after so many Windows 8 success stories on BF4, I couldn't ignore it any longer. I upgraded to 8.1 and I'm glad I did. The performance difference really is night and day.
 

Termie

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Its the cheapest and quickest way to go, but since neither my CPU or GPU is maxed I think something else is wrong.

Childs - we have very similar systems. I'm seeing 99% GPU Usage most of the time, and probably around 50% CPU Usage (not all cores are equally loaded). My VRAM hits 1800MB at 1440p/High, closer to 1950MB at 1080p or 1440p Ultra. I'm on Win7.

If your GPU isn't maxing out in this game, there must be a setting that isn't right. It's not vsync, because the system will struggle to hold 60fps anyway. Do you routinely see 99% GPU Usage in other games or benchmarks? Maybe do a clean install of the drivers to knock out any settings that might be causing an issue.
 

Kev

Lifer
Dec 17, 2001
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Just played a 1000 ticket game, went 50-20, the score was 12-5, and the fucking server crashed. This is getting old.
 

Childs

Lifer
Jul 9, 2000
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I didn't either. I was trying to convince myself performance was "good enough" not to warrant an upgrade, but I also knew both my CPU and GPU scaling wasn't where it should be, and after so many Windows 8 success stories on BF4, I couldn't ignore it any longer. I upgraded to 8.1 and I'm glad I did. The performance difference really is night and day.

I have two licenses for Windows 8, but I wasn't found of the UI and downgraded. I still have that option in my back pocket, but hopefully there will be a patch or something. I would rather buy another or new video card than install Win 8.

Childs - we have very similar systems. I'm seeing 99% GPU Usage most of the time, and probably around 50% CPU Usage (not all cores are equally loaded). My VRAM hits 1800MB at 1440p/High, closer to 1950MB at 1080p or 1440p Ultra. I'm on Win7.

If your GPU isn't maxing out in this game, there must be a setting that isn't right. It's not vsync, because the system will struggle to hold 60fps anyway. Do you routinely see 99% GPU Usage in other games or benchmarks? Maybe do a clean install of the drivers to knock out any settings that might be causing an issue.

I never really look at GPU usage because everything runs fast. I might remove the 460 I am using for dedicated physx and do a clean install of the drivers. Whats strange is while in game the GPU usage is around 65%, and maybe jump in the 80s for a sec, but when in the scoreboard screen at the end of the round its 9x%. But when the next round starts back to 65% or so.
 

AznAnarchy99

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Dec 6, 2004
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Single player on hard is a joke. It's pretty boring so far. Like an action movie with a bad story. Only doing it to grab the weapon unlocks.
 

Childs

Lifer
Jul 9, 2000
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I didn't either. I was trying to convince myself performance was "good enough" not to warrant an upgrade, but I also knew both my CPU and GPU scaling wasn't where it should be, and after so many Windows 8 success stories on BF4, I couldn't ignore it any longer. I upgraded to 8.1 and I'm glad I did. The performance difference really is night and day.

Childs - we have very similar systems. I'm seeing 99% GPU Usage most of the time, and probably around 50% CPU Usage (not all cores are equally loaded). My VRAM hits 1800MB at 1440p/High, closer to 1950MB at 1080p or 1440p Ultra. I'm on Win7.

If your GPU isn't maxing out in this game, there must be a setting that isn't right. It's not vsync, because the system will struggle to hold 60fps anyway. Do you routinely see 99% GPU Usage in other games or benchmarks? Maybe do a clean install of the drivers to knock out any settings that might be causing an issue.

I figured it out...its frickin Shadowplay! I turned it off and GPU usage is 99%. I guess video capture still aint free. Its too bad, because it recorded really nice.
 
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acx

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Unfortunately 3 of the unlock weapons are from single player assignments...
 

2is

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I figured it out...its frickin Shadowplay! I turned it off and GPU usage is 99%. I guess video capture still aint free. Its too bad, because it recorded really nice.

Glad you got it figured out. I was actually messing with Shadowplay for the first time today, also in BF3. It limits your ingame FPS to the shadowplay settings, mine was 60. Still a lot better than the FRAPS alternative which not only has that same limitation, but would never be able to capture 1080p @ 60fps in a game like BF4.
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
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I'm currently at a .94kdr. I would imagine that it will creep up to a 1.3 like BF3 in time, but either way, I've been having fun.

First day mine was at .9. Today it's up to 1.21. It's gonna be some time before I bring it up to my BF3 levels at 2:1.
 

Childs

Lifer
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Glad you got it figured out. I was actually messing with Shadowplay for the first time today, also in BF3. It limits your ingame FPS to the shadowplay settings, mine was 60. Still a lot better than the FRAPS alternative which not only has that same limitation, but would never be able to capture 1080p @ 60fps in a game like BF4.

Shadowplay is supposed to allow for capture at 1080p 60fps without limiting your in game frame rate. For BF3 it seemed to work fine, as I was way above 60fps in game, and it felt like it never dropped. It could be that my frame rate did indeed drop, but it was higher enough that I didn't notice. Most of the time in BF4 it was in the 70-80s, but then it would drop to the 30-40s. Anyways, after a few 64 man games my frame rate is holding over 60fps easy. And thank god now my aim is back.

Dxtory lets you capture at any resolution and frame rate, and when you use H.264 there is almost no cpu hit. I really like the shadow recording feature of Shadowplay though. Something interesting happens, just record the last 5 min.

I might get the second 680 anyway. They are going for $300 used, and 680 SLi should be faster than a single 780ti. Sheesh, when I got the 680 it was with the expectation that I can just add another later, but the BF4 needing more than 2GB of VRAM thing kinda changes things. I dont even think there were 4GB versions when it was released.
 

2is

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Shadowplay is supposed to allow for capture at 1080p 60fps without limiting your in game frame rate. For BF3 it seemed to work fine, as I was way above 60fps in game, and it felt like it never dropped. It could be that my frame rate did indeed drop, but it was higher enough that I didn't notice. Most of the time in BF4 it was in the 70-80s, but then it would drop to the 30-40s. Anyways, after a few 64 man games my frame rate is holding over 60fps easy. And thank god now my aim is back.

Dxtory lets you capture at any resolution and frame rate, and when you use H.264 there is almost no cpu hit. I really like the shadow recording feature of Shadowplay though. Something interesting happens, just record the last 5 min.

I might get the second 680 anyway. They are going for $300 used, and 680 SLi should be faster than a single 780ti. Sheesh, when I got the 680 it was with the expectation that I can just add another later, but the BF4 needing more than 2GB of VRAM thing kinda changes things. I dont even think there were 4GB versions when it was released.

Actually You're probably right, and my system just impressed the crap out of me some more... I had fraps running and just checked, and sure enough the hotkey to start capturing in fraps was the same as Shadowplay, so I had both fraps and shadowplay capturing at the same time...
 

TallBill

Lifer
Apr 29, 2001
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Started of by going something obscene like 0-12, hating the kill cam that stays up forever, hints not going away, and just feeling off. Got a couple kills in a row, then game crashed lol. Got game up again, clicked quick join.. put me as the only player in a server. Got a few kills and was having fun, server crash.
 
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Grooveriding

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Fuck me the servers are a disaster. Some server providers are obviously providing anemic hardware to the servers and they are big time lag fests and all the servers are suffering from random crashes resulting in loss of points for the round.

This is just like BF3's launch all over.
 

TeknoBug

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Oct 2, 2013
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Started of by going something obscene like 0-12, hating the kill cam that stays up forever, hints not going away, and just feeling off. Got a couple kills in a row, then game crashed lol. Got game up again, clicked quick join.. put me as the only player in a server. Got a few kills and was having fun, server crash.

Did you go through the options to turn the hints and tutorials off? I seriously hate that stuff.

In beta load times were ~3 minutes (even on a SSD), killcam were too long, just too many issues with the game and from what I'm reading they're still there unfixed.
 

TeknoBug

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Oct 2, 2013
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Single player on hard is a joke. It's pretty boring so far. Like an action movie with a bad story. Only doing it to grab the weapon unlocks.

I rarely ever play single player with any game, the last single player I completed was Bad Company 2, I didn't get far in any of the Call of Duty ones except maybe United Offense. Racing games on the other hand I always do career mode.
 

taq8ojh

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Mar 2, 2013
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My top annoyances about the game:

1) Messed up key bindings. You just can't rebind gadget1 at all. B opens console (wtf?). The game only recognizes five mouse buttons - this is not a bug though (but it's 2013 ffs).

2) Battlelog is one big bug. Browser doesn't remember sorting of results. There is no queue functionality, which makes joining ANY game pain in the ass. It's impossible to add a server to favourites from its page, the only way to do this is from the browser. Various scrolling problems when looking at stats of guns/items.

3) Servers are crashing like Windows ME.
 

DeadFred

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Jun 4, 2011
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Id seen some laggy servers but I had zero game crashes until the 667MB patch installed yesterday. After that installed I had a at least 5 game lockups where I had to go to task manager to get out last night.
 

Zargon

Lifer
Nov 3, 2009
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My top annoyances about the game:

1) Messed up key bindings. You just can't rebind gadget1 at all. B opens console (wtf?). The game only recognizes five mouse buttons - this is not a bug though (but it's 2013 ffs).

2) Battlelog is one big bug. Browser doesn't remember sorting of results. There is no queue functionality, which makes joining ANY game pain in the ass. It's impossible to add a server to favourites from its page, the only way to do this is from the browser. Various scrolling problems when looking at stats of guns/items.

3) Servers are crashing like Windows ME.

I just patchd this am, but I was having lockups on most map changes last night

haven't had BL issues, besides the server filters which im sure is a programming issue

and some random laggy server
 
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