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Childs

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Jul 9, 2000
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Used to and how its done in BF4 might be different, because that is not the case now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03A2SGakF3M

Sorry, the link I posted was screwed up when linked it last night. I guess this forum doesn't like youtu dot be addresses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB6gGtueGXE

All we were saying was what the original guy was trying to do could be done in BF3. Looking at the starting rifle in BF4 on the test range, you can still do it without the straight pull bolt, but the deviation is greater. When you zoom back in its more random than it is in BF3. Normally you would quickly zoom out and back in to do a reload without losing your current aim. There was no penalty for doing the same thing with a straight pull bolt. I dont have one unlocked yet for a BF4 sniper rifle, but I would think the increased variation after quickscoping would be more of an issue than whether you can or can't do it with a straight pull bolt.
 

Childs

Lifer
Jul 9, 2000
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The solo experience was kind of meh. They put you into the same cutscene style multiple times. I mean you slide down in a collapsed building, you run a car off into water, you go sliding down in a ski lift and you fall off a collapsing dam. Its all the same darn trick, big explosion you can do nothing about and your watching a cut scene. The rails are very straight. The AI is pretty "bobby headed" throughout the campaign. All in all it was pretty poor. It wasn't much better than BF3, or the CODs, just all the same rubbish.

I agree, it was bad. So scripted it actually breaks the immersion. On the ski lift I shot the pilot out of the little bird as soon as he showed up. Got the kill and headshot bonus, and it starts to go down. Then the lift gets magically shot up by the ghost of the little bird!

Always waiting for the AI, whether they are moving slow or want to talk. I also resented having to replay the last mission three times to unlock all three weapons. I guess if you wanted to play single player it might not be so frustrating, but I just wanted the damn multiplayer weapons! :biggrin:

So strange that Dice thinks heavily scripted single player is what Battlefield players want. Battlefield is all about freedom.
 

paul878

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Jul 31, 2010
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This is what really sucks about online shooters. If you aren't in from day one playing at least a hour a day good luck doing anything but getting owned throughout your gameplay. My bf3 experience was basically start up game get killed a minute later. Start again and if I'm lucky 2 minutes pass before I'm dead. Even noob maps are filled with quality players with nothing better to do than own a bunch of noobs.


Whenever I shoot 1 of them, there always 3 of his buddy shooting at me from the back. Some how it seem I always get kill by 1 shot and takes me a mag to kill just one.
 

Canbacon

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Dec 24, 2007
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Sorry, the link I posted was screwed up when linked it last night. I guess this forum doesn't like youtu dot be addresses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB6gGtueGXE

All we were saying was what the original guy was trying to do could be done in BF3. Looking at the starting rifle in BF4 on the test range, you can still do it without the straight pull bolt, but the deviation is greater. When you zoom back in its more random than it is in BF3. Normally you would quickly zoom out and back in to do a reload without losing your current aim. There was no penalty for doing the same thing with a straight pull bolt. I dont have one unlocked yet for a BF4 sniper rifle, but I would think the increased variation after quickscoping would be more of an issue than whether you can or can't do it with a straight pull bolt.

Yes, you really need to have a straight pull bolt to have a similar experience that you had with BF3. It was a bit of a grind to get it on my M40, but I never realized how much it changed my play style when I had it on vs off. It makes the quick scoping a lot easier. I'm a mid/close m40 person.

DMR's are garbage until you get the angled+muzzle brake combo. Then they are ok, you still get out classed by good/decent bolt action snipers and good assault players.
 

DeadFred

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Jun 4, 2011
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I also resented having to replay the last mission three times to unlock all three weapons. I guess if you wanted to play single player it might not be so frustrating, but I just wanted the damn multiplayer weapons! :biggrin:
Say it isnt so!!! I couldnt even bring myself to play past the first campaign mission.
 
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So what would I miss out if I just bought the standard edition? Is the other version with additional features more popular? like maps etc?
 
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Just finished the Sp in BF4 and collected everything, how can DICE make a game that excels so much in every aspec and fail so badly on the SP story/Characters, I wanted to kill everyone of them, You have a Superman wanna be, a pushover, a bitch and a wanna be wolf, also had no idea what was going on and why things were happening and the end was so bad I don't wanna talk about it.... it was a bummer.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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Just finished the Sp in BF4 and collected everything, how can DICE make a game that excels so much in every aspec and fail so badly on the SP story/Characters, I wanted to kill everyone of them, You have a Superman wanna be, a pushover, a bitch and a wanna be wolf, also had no idea what was going on and why things were happening and the end was so bad I don't wanna talk about it.... it was a bummer.

I didn't think it was that bad. Besides this is a game made for mp to begin with.
 

VulgarDisplay

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Apr 3, 2009
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The single player is comedically bad. I'm mean horrible. COD: MW2 has a more coherent story and that game was an absolute mess.

All the character interactions were forced and horrible on the level of the Star Wars Prequels. So ridiculous.

At least in Bad Company games the garbage story and ridiculous characters are the punchline. In Battlefield the joke never happens and you sit there incredulous wondering how they allowed this turd to be released.
 

Childs

Lifer
Jul 9, 2000
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So what would I miss out if I just bought the standard edition? Is the other version with additional features more popular? like maps etc?

Nothing except the first map pack, but if you eventually get premium you will get it. And some battlepacks, but I dont think I have gotten anything worthwhile.
 
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That sums the Sp very well, I don't mind tho I knew I was paying the price tag for MP alone, and to me its very well worth it, just think Game Companies have this ancient view that every game that isn't an MMO needs a SP, I mean people don't spend 60$ on COD every year because of SP, same applies to BF, I think that after TitanFall we might see a change to the way Activision and EA release their Main FPS franchises.

Nothing except the first map pack, but if you eventually get premium you will get it. And some battlepacks, but I dont think I have gotten anything worthwhile.

I got BF4+China Rising for 40 euros, battlepacks are a waste of money you can eventually get everything, deluxe is just a ripoff.
 

blackened23

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Jul 26, 2011
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Just finished the Sp in BF4 and collected everything, how can DICE make a game that excels so much in every aspec and fail so badly on the SP story/Characters, I wanted to kill everyone of them, You have a Superman wanna be, a pushover, a bitch and a wanna be wolf, also had no idea what was going on and why things were happening and the end was so bad I don't wanna talk about it.... it was a bummer.

So you're one of the 3 people who played bf4 for SP? The BF series of games has always been about multiplayer from the get-go; I sunk 600+ hours in bf3 multiplayer and about zero hours in single player.

Some games... are more about competition and less about single player - fighting games and competitive FPS generally never focus on SP. And that's fine with me considering how much time i've sunk into all of the BF games.
 
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Worthington

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Apr 29, 2005
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Hell, 1942 didn't have a single player. It had all the multiplayer maps with bots. I'd take that back any day of the week.
 

Stringjam

Golden Member
Jun 30, 2011
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Totally digging Paracel Storm.

Experiencing the storm coming in and watching all those powerboat launching off the waves.......fun stuff.
 

raasco

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Feb 6, 2009
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This is what really sucks about online shooters. If you aren't in from day one playing at least a hour a day good luck doing anything but getting owned throughout your gameplay. My bf3 experience was basically start up game get killed a minute later. Start again and if I'm lucky 2 minutes pass before I'm dead. Even noob maps are filled with quality players with nothing better to do than own a bunch of noobs.

There were "Noobs Only" servers in BF3. They would bounce you out if you were above a certain rank. I'm sure the BF4 will have some of those servers also. You just might have to dig for them.
 

raasco

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So you're one of the 3 people who played bf4 for SP? The BF series of games has always been about multiplayer from the get-go; I sunk 600+ hours in bf3 multiplayer and about zero hours in single player.

Some games... are more about competition and less about single player - fighting games and competitive FPS generally never focus on SP. And that's fine with me considering how much time i've sunk into all of the BF games.

If you want all of the weapons, you will need to play the single player. Just like how you needed to play the co-op in BF3 to unlock weapons.
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
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The single player is comedically bad. I'm mean horrible. COD: MW2 has a more coherent story and that game was an absolute mess.

All the character interactions were forced and horrible on the level of the Star Wars Prequels. So ridiculous.

At least in Bad Company games the garbage story and ridiculous characters are the punchline. In Battlefield the joke never happens and you sit there incredulous wondering how they allowed this turd to be released.

It's really really bad. The Call of Duty SP has been going to the shitter after MW1 but damn this takes the cake. Its like playing through the rails just to get to the end for some damn weapons.
 

2is

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Apr 8, 2012
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I'm not looking forward to the campaign but I also want the unlocks so I may suffer through it. How long is it?
 
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