The AT Battlefield 4 F.A.Q., News, and Discussion thread

[Tripwir3]

Nah its fine, been running 2600k @ 4.5ghz without any problems.

Copy that. It must just be on certain systems. I've tested twice on my system and verified. Good thing that after unparking my cores even at stock I am doing decent. Still getting CPU spikes, but not as often.

 

[lozina]

Just checked my K/D ratio is currently 0.91 so I guess not as bad as I thought in that regard, but sure as hell worse than I used to be at these games

PS my game name is Valenos in case anyone wants to hit me up for some games

 

[lozina]

The AEK is a monster in this game. Heavy barrel and Angled grip. It has about the same spread as the M416 except with more recoil, which you can deal with. And the fire rate is significantly better. 750 for the M416 vs 900 for the AEK

The FAMAS is fickle. It complains and acts up constantly. But treat it right, and it's magic.

For those of you who are interested, the gun stats are laid out with pretty graphs and such at http://symthic.com/bf4-stats

Loving the game though, and the geo-leaderboards are really cool, comparing yourself to your town, state, etc.

Gotta say that Zavod 311, Operation Locker, and Flood Zone are my favorite maps so far. Paracel storm looks the best during that awesome storm.

Got banned for the first time in BF4 last night. Apparently my killrate was "too high" ><

Nice link, not sure I understand those accuracy plot graphs... whats the spectrum mean and the big green dot? Close the spectrum is to the dot the better? The AEK looks horrible on that graph then, which matches my suspicion with it

So is the Famas your preferred gun or the M16? I have not seen too much of the M16 in my matches, I seem to get killed more by the CZ, SCAR-H and that G36 carbine.

 

[videogames101]

Nice link, not sure I understand those accuracy plot graphs... whats the spectrum mean and the big green dot? Close the spectrum is to the dot the better? The AEK looks horrible on that graph then, which matches my suspicion with it

So is the Famas your preferred gun or the M16? I have not seen too much of the M16 in my matches, I seem to get killed more by the CZ, SCAR-H and that G36 carbine.

So the graphs use 5 shots (in automatic fire mode) in a row based on the stats of the weapon. They fire like 7000 sets of 5 shots and track where they go. BF4 has "spread" which is random variation in bullet location.

The colors represent the 1st, 2nd, 3rd shot, etc. (1st = green, 2nd = yellow, etc)

They way each color is spread out is based on the spread, or inherent inaccuracy of the gun. You can see the effects of recoil by how far apart the groups of colors are. Side to side recoil also changes the horizontal grouping of each color (shot) and can lead to recoil patterns to veer off to the left or right. Something like that is good to know, so when you use the gun you can pull a little left or right to compensate for the weapon's recoil direction.

My preferred gun is yet unknown, but for larger maps I do like the M416, and in places like Operation Locker I like the AEK. If you are confident with heavy recoil guns , the SCAR-H will kill at ANY range with 2 headshots, which can be very strong. The SCAR-H has a higher damage model than the rest of the ARs.

I've heard through the grapevine the ACE 23 might be the rifle to use though.

The FAMAS is more of a gun to have fun with. You can get crazy kills with it because of the ROF, and then die real fast because it's really bad in a whole lot of ways.

 

[lozina]

So the graphs so 5 shots (in automatic fire mode) in a row based on the stats of the weapon. They fire 7000 shots and track where they go. BF4 has "spread" which is random variation in bullet location.

The colors represent the 1st, 2nd, 3rd shot, etc.

They way each color is spread out is based on the spread, or inherent inaccuracy of the gun. You can see the effects of recoil by how far apart the groups of colors are.

So the big green dot represents the target they aim for? If so then DAMN that would explain why I seem to miss so often because I am aiming for the head, the bullets would be flying over them for the most part...

The CZ looks great in these graphs.

 

[videogames101]

So the big green dot represents the target they aim for? If so then DAMN that would explain why I seem to miss so often because I am aiming for the head, the bullets would be flying over them for the most part...

The CZ looks great in these graphs.

Yep, they start by aiming at the center of the green circle. Keep in mind that you can pull down on your gun with your mouse to keep it level. The graphs are done without any attempt to control the recoil.

Also, the CZ may look good, but ROF is a big factor, especially at close quarters. Gotta balance the accuracy with the ROF.

AND often holding down the trigger for 5 shots might not be the best way to use a gun. Bursting 1 or 2 at a time is often much more effective, obviously, so those plots don't tell the whole story.

 

[Phoenix86]

I am not too happy with the AEK's kick. Makes anything but close range combat too unreliable. I got the Famas last night but I have not bothered to try it yet since it has higher ROF than the AEK plus a smaller clip size... yuck. I am curious to see if it has the same kick as the AEK though.

So far my favorite (as per the one I was the most successful with so far) was the one before the AEK I think SAR-71 or some shit like that?

I fire in ~5 round bursts (but hate 3 round burst only guns) so I can manage the kick OK.

Famas has about as much kick vertical (lower first bullet) but much more horizontal spread.

http://symthic.com/bf4-multi-compar...&a12=None&a22=None&a32=None&a42=None&a52=None

 

[RomanMtz]

I didn't want to start a new thread for this, but since most of my friends don't game on the PC and I wouldn't play BF4 on anything other than a PC I find myself doing the Rambo thing most of the time when I play. Any one know of any good groups people could join to get into more cooperative/communicative games?

 

[Triglet]

Green dot is the first round. It's big because for each plot they run 200 (I'm guessing, I'm sure they state it somewhere) or so simulations. The other colors are the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc rounds fired.

So in theory, since we can control vertical recoil on the PC by pulling back on the mouse while shooting you should pick the gun that has the least amount of horizontal spread. That's over simplified though, everyone has their preferences.

 

[draknon]

Search for servers with Tactical in the description. They are far more likely to use proper squad commands and communication while playing. Once you find a server you like, add it to your favorites.

 

[flannigs]

The amount of detail in this game makes it hard for me to pick out the enemy on foot if they aren't spotted.

I'm having the same problem, especially the map with the junk tanks in the woods.

Anyone know what the key bind is called for picking up the special guns/weapons laying around. When I get close to them it signals me
to press my middle mouse button (scroll wheel) but when I do nothing
happens.
Same thing for picking up a deadmans kit, what is the key bind called.

Thanks.

 

[RomanMtz]

Search for servers with Tactical in the description. They are far more likely to use proper squad commands and communication while playing. Once you find a server you like, add it to your favorites.

Thanks! I'm going to sound like the new kid in school, but if any ATers want to add me to Origin, I'm under Modusetic

 

[KidNiki1]

I didn't want to start a new thread for this, but since most of my friends don't game on the PC and I wouldn't play BF4 on anything other than a PC I find myself doing the Rambo thing most of the time when I play. Any one know of any good groups people could join to get into more cooperative/communicative games?

there's a list on the first page of the thread i think of AT people who you can add to friends to game with. Anyone can feel free to add me, although as stated earlier, i suck.

In game is RevGaiusMohiam

 

[satsau]

I HATE IRON SIGHTS.

Feel like a damn target practice dummy for the other team while trying unlock the M416 RDS.

 

[broken_pixel]

My BF4 crashes like clockwork. Every third map during MP gameplay it will blackscreen. I am only able to move the curser, control alt delete does nothing. I can still switch between afterburner and AIDA64 HW info status with my G510 keyboard. Reboot! Repeat crashes every third map in rotation. :/

 

[raasco]

I'm having the same problem, especially the map with the junk tanks in the woods.

Anyone know what the key bind is called for picking up the special guns/weapons laying around. When I get close to them it signals me
to press my middle mouse button (scroll wheel) but when I do nothing
happens.
Same thing for picking up a deadmans kit, what is the key bind called.

Thanks.

It should be whatever your reload key is. I think the default was R.

 

[B-Riz]

Anyone that is frustrated, it will stink until you learn the maps, where people like to hide and what not.

So far I have not played any conquest due to not liking it in BF3; after a while it was just getting killed by vehicles all the time.

I do play TDM, Domination and Rush.

I think Rush is the most fun (esp with 32-64 players) followed by Domination. TDM is good for trying out weapons and loadouts but gets kinda old after a few games.

Some maps I am not a big fan of in TDM like Floodzone and Dam, and Parcel is really hard to see enemies after the storm hits, with everyone being a black uniform and then a massively darkened sky comes in. Satellite map in TDM is frustrating too, death feels random as damage comes in and you die before figuring out where it comes from.

Any maps that ruin your fun?

 

[B-Riz]

I HATE IRON SIGHTS.

Feel like a damn target practice dummy for the other team while trying unlock the M416 RDS.

Technically iron sights are the best because they "equip" faster than any other sight. (for close quarters)

In BF3, anything under 4x was supposed to equip as fast as iron, but I think iron was always fastest.

The most frustrating players (the ones that kill me most in a match) run iron sights; its all skill...

The BEST practice for iron is to take a sniper rifle and go iron on it, it will translate to other weapons...

 

[Childs]

I'm having the same problem, especially the map with the junk tanks in the woods.

Anyone know what the key bind is called for picking up the special guns/weapons laying around. When I get close to them it signals me
to press my middle mouse button (scroll wheel) but when I do nothing
happens.
Same thing for picking up a deadmans kit, what is the key bind called.

Thanks.

I think you just hold the R key by default. R is also used for reload, so maybe rebinding reload will change this as well.

 

[Anteaus]

Technically iron sights are the best because they "equip" faster than any other sight. (for close quarters)

In BF3, anything under 4x was supposed to equip as fast as iron, but I think iron was always fastest.

The most frustrating players (the ones that kill me most in a match) run iron sights; its all skill...

The BEST practice for iron is to take a sniper rifle and go iron on it, it will translate to other weapons...

I agree completely. At first leveling recon was a chore until I discovered that with a little skill you can dominate in close quarters with iron sights except when overwelmed numerically. It's quite ridiculous when you clear rooms with nothing but a bolt action rifle and iron sights. Sniper rifles are really powerful and will one shot most anyone as long as you aim properly.

I went from average 300-800 per match (I was a horrible long shot) to 3000-4000+ after shifting to close quarter sights. I think it's more about being in the action. There are simply more targets of opportunity and you can still be useful in tighter maps.

 

[Paul98]

I feel so obsolete playing BF4! I used to be damn good in BF1942 but as the newer releases get more fast faced and complicated I suffer.

My three most frustrating scenarios which play out often during my gameplay:

1) See an enemy run by me and did not notice me. I chase and get behind him until he pauses and then I begin to unload my clip into his back. He promptly realizes I am behind him, spins around and shoots a quick burst to my head and kills me.

2) I spot an enemy at a medium distance, I crouch or prone and begin firing quick bursts at him trying to aim upper torso to head area. My cross hairs blink so I know I am hitting. But he quickly identifies where I am shooting from, and takes a quick single burst while standing and kills me.

3) Since situation #2 happens a lot meaning I cannot shoot from a distance I try running around frantically hoping to get in close combat situations so I am more likely to score kills. A recon guy comes running around a corner with a sniper rifle right in front of me. For a brief moment I think oh good easy kill but before I can left click my mouse he one shots me.

I am amazed how quick people are and how perfectly they aim for head shots most of the time.

Any suggestions on trying to improve? I feel frustrated a lot because I feel like my shots are not going where I am aiming. My ping is usually below 10 ms because I am using local servers and I have FIOS. Is it possible the ping is TOO good?! It's odd though because sometimes I log in to a server and it feels like I am making my shots then I log on to another and the ping is about the same but my shots are not hitting.

Also despite my better GFX capability I toned down all my graphics settings to low. I did notice an improvement in my accuracy after doing this. Any settings I can change to ensure I am operating at optimal performance?

Sounds like you are thinking way to much before you shoot.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Anyone still playing Battlefield Bad Company 2 vanilla?

 

[Fire&Blood]

The only map I see people drop ammo packs or revive anyone is Operation Locker(probably because of stalemates at bottlenecks), elsewhere not enough.

I feel so obsolete playing BF4! I used to be damn good in BF1942 but as the newer releases get more fast faced and complicated I suffer.

My three most frustrating scenarios which play out often during my gameplay:

1) See an enemy run by me and did not notice me. I chase and get behind him until he pauses and then I begin to unload my clip into his back. He promptly realizes I am behind him, spins around and shoots a quick burst to my head and kills me.

2) I spot an enemy at a medium distance, I crouch or prone and begin firing quick bursts at him trying to aim upper torso to head area. My cross hairs blink so I know I am hitting. But he quickly identifies where I am shooting from, and takes a quick single burst while standing and kills me.

3) Since situation #2 happens a lot meaning I cannot shoot from a distance I try running around frantically hoping to get in close combat situations so I am more likely to score kills. A recon guy comes running around a corner with a sniper rifle right in front of me. For a brief moment I think oh good easy kill but before I can left click my mouse he one shots me.

I am amazed how quick people are and how perfectly they aim for head shots most of the time.

Any suggestions on trying to improve? I feel frustrated a lot because I feel like my shots are not going where I am aiming. My ping is usually below 10 ms because I am using local servers and I have FIOS. Is it possible the ping is TOO good?! It's odd though because sometimes I log in to a server and it feels like I am making my shots then I log on to another and the ping is about the same but my shots are not hitting.

Also despite my better GFX capability I toned down all my graphics settings to low. I did notice an improvement in my accuracy after doing this. Any settings I can change to ensure I am operating at optimal performance?

That's tough. Keep in mind that long time BF3 players have an edge as the game is much like the previous version for them while being entirely new to you. have Don't discount the possibility that you or on a server frequented by low key cheaters, especially if that #1 & #2 scenario occurs often.
Also at this early stage of the game, maybe the server synchronization doesn't favor you. A few times I got shot from angles that defy laws of physics so the sync issue matters too. I'm learning the maps too as each has a few spots favored by campers. I don't have any setting suggestions, just keep your FPS high, learn the maps, work on aim and don't be alone.

 

[Childs]

Anyone still playing Battlefield Bad Company 2 vanilla?

I was playing it the week before BF4 launched and there were still thousands of players.


Anyone know if the flashbangs actually work? I throw two in a room, run in, and everyone in the room shoots me. I also dont think I have ever been flashed, so maybe they dont work.

 

[dougp]

I was playing it the week before BF4 launched and there were still thousands of players.


Anyone know if the flashbangs actually work? I throw two in a room, run in, and everyone in the room shoots me. I also dont think I have ever been flashed, so maybe they just work.

They're not working properly.