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satsau

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I truly do not understand the skill system. Anyone care to shed some light on this?

I'll go 10-18 and get +5 skill
Then I'll go 18-10 and -8 skill

WTF????
 

Childs

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Jul 9, 2000
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I truly do not understand the skill system. Anyone care to shed some light on this?

I'll go 10-18 and get +5 skill
Then I'll go 18-10 and -8 skill

WTF????

According to this post, the forumla is based on SPM, KPM, and KDR, but its not clear how it all fits together. I know from experience, I can have an average to bad game KD wise on a server with lots of high level players, and my skill goes up significantly. When I have high KD games, but I get back shot a lot by noobs, it drops a good amount or might just increase a couple of points.

They say its different from BF3, but it still seems like if you kill high skill people, it goes up. You get killed by lower skilled people, it goes down. Its really only meant for matchmaking, but I dont think that works either. I wouldnt worry about it. You can play domination or tdm and increase it faster if you want.
 

LtMikePowelll

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Those pistol server only give you lots of skill if you go on a rampage of kills. Also maintain a big kdr helps too, one time i was with Childs and Azn on a rush game, end up with 11-1 and +55 skill.
 

AznAnarchy99

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Dec 6, 2004
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Those pistol server only give you lots of skill if you go on a rampage of kills. Also maintain a big kdr helps too, one time i was with Childs and Azn on a rush game, end up with 11-1 and +55 skill.

Pistol servers IMO is all about angles. Get the right angle and you can kill 10 people trying to rush you.
 

Childs

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Pistol servers IMO is all about angles. Get the right angle and you can kill 10 people trying to rush you.

hehe...its all about the G18 or 93R, especially if you run as support. As long as you dont get headshot by the magnum or rex you'll destroy anyone you come across.
 

satsau

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Thanks!!!

I got my k/d up from .3 to .78. I want to get my skill to 200+.

Some near term attainable goals for my skill level. I must be the worst ATOT player :-(
 

velillen

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Jul 12, 2006
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If you play the objective, then you are a good player

exactly. KDR is all for personal gloating. Playing objectives wins games. Ive gone 1-10 or 1-15 and not cared before cause i would cap flags and really make a difference to win the game.

Ive been in plenty of games where people dont go for objectives, play as recon and try to snipe all game, and its just not as fun.
 

lozina

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Sep 10, 2001
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exactly. KDR is all for personal gloating. Playing objectives wins games. Ive gone 1-10 or 1-15 and not cared before cause i would cap flags and really make a difference to win the game.

Ive been in plenty of games where people dont go for objectives, play as recon and try to snipe all game, and its just not as fun.

There's a simple solution for that... don't record kill/death stats! But no one would go for that...
 

LtMikePowelll

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When the game released I put my game in a regular 1tb 7200 rpm hdd and the load time was atrocious around 3 mins. Then I decided to put the game into my 840 pro ssd and the load time is less than 30 secs now
 

AznAnarchy99

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Dec 6, 2004
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Someone was recently wondering if they should go with a SSD to improve BF4 load times. This should persuade you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzAtiDGHEjM (this might have been posted in this thread at one time)

Oh def. I originally put it on my 640 WD Black then I moved it to my SSD. Usually one of the first in the server.

Getting the hang of that DMR game play. Only problem is that every gun dictates a certain style. LMG I push and pick them off. AR I go in blazing. DMR is the middle ground where I stand middle-ish back and pick off snipers and guys who push with a 3.4x/4x scope and then as things clear up a bit I use the canted iron sights and push. Went 22-4 before I crashed...
 
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imaheadcase

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I'm actually learning something about this video editor program i got, I might put together a M2 slam montage if i get at least 5mins worth of video of it.

Speaking of mines, did anyone else notice that in certain areas they will have camo applied to them when you put on ground/objects? very weird. Some area's it won't though, not sure what triggers it or not.
 

KentState

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Oh def. I originally put it on my 640 WD Black then I moved it to my SSD. Usually one of the first in the server.

Getting the hang of that DMR game play. Only problem is that every gun dictates a certain style. LMG I push and pick them off. AR I go in blazing. DMR is the middle ground where I stand middle-ish back and pick off snipers and guys who push with a 3.4x/4x scope and then as things clear up a bit I use the canted iron sights and push. Went 22-4 before I crashed...

That's the hardest thing about changing weapons in this game is switching up game styles. I actually like the starter DMR and have become somewhat proficient with it. Like you, I hang back a little and "back up" the team. When I push, I have gone to using my pistol since it is better for hipfire faster at reloading. Since they are both semi-auto, I can use the same method of clicking away when I see someone.
 

RaulF

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That's the hardest thing about changing weapons in this game is switching up game styles. I actually like the starter DMR and have become somewhat proficient with it. Like you, I hang back a little and "back up" the team. When I push, I have gone to using my pistol since it is better for hipfire faster at reloading. Since they are both semi-auto, I can use the same method of clicking away when I see someone.

I think you can count the ammount of kills i have with the dmr with one hand.

I cannot get used to it.
 

hondaf17

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I'm liking the 32 man obliteration servers the best.

Everyone do me a favor....IF YOU'RE A SQUAD LEADER SET OBJECTIVES!!! Drives me nuts when squad leaders don't set objectives - I guess they don't want free points.

Basically, if I'm on a squad that works together and communicates = fun. If my squad is bunch of morons = horrible.
 

taq8ojh

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Yeah but it's not so painfully obvious and frequent on conquest due to map size. In domination it's just completely ridiculous.
 

VulgarDisplay

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http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/409580733945278592/188156428/

UCAV is not overpowered at all. /end sarcasm

It's hilariously easy to use. Unlocked the airburst warhead for it and it's truly easy mode now. It kills infantry in like a 15 foot radius around the thing when you set it off. This was the best round I had with it, but the rest of the ones I had were like this.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/409577794396680320/188156428/
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/409572086578081920/188156428/
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/409586069796221056/188156428/
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/409567302768849024/188156428/
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/409561811720269952/188156428/

I look at it as raising awareness about the problem. I will use this exclusively until it's patched out of the game.

I have no idea how a patch can fix this thing. DICE should just admit that it's a HORRIBLE gameplay design and remove it from the game.
 

Fire&Blood

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I'm celebrating my 1000th crash today! Good thing forum was down for maintenance last night or I would have earned an infraction or two for the language I would have used. And yesterday I was celebrating dropping my skill rating from 400 to 200 and the longest losing streak, 18 losses in a row. I don't think I could have achieved that playing HC exclusively and mowing down team mates all the time. But I managed to achieve that in normal mode which is quite an accomplishment if I may say so myself.

218 f..... hours of attempting to play and I have reached lv 64. I wish I could recorded the sound loop crashes, they would have made for some great samples to compose a house music song.
 
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I'm trying to put together an awesome MBT loadout and would like AT's feedback.

When one has a good teammate in constant communication I believe the best load out is:

Primary: HE Shell
Secondary: Guided Shell
Countermeasure: Active Protection
Optics: Thermal
Upgrade: Reactive Armor
Gunner Optics: Thermal
Gunner Upgrade: SOFLAM
Notes: Only con would be the gunner's view is obstructed by the AP system. I used this loadout last night with my brother to great success. 20 armor kills and no deaths.


Solo tank ops:

Primary: HE Shell
Secondary: Staff Shell
Countermeasure: Active Protection
Optics: Thermal
Upgrade: Reactive Armor
Gunner Optics: Thermal
Gunner Upgrade: Incendiary
Notes: I've not actually used these yet but my rationale is that one would still have minimal guided shell ability with an anti-infantry ability to pop (by switching seats quickly back and forth) before scooting away.
 
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uclaLabrat

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Gunner SOFLAM with guided shell is pretty wicked, need to try out the staff shell a bit more, just unlocked it a few days ago
 

Childs

Lifer
Jul 9, 2000
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You know, I was going to join your game yesterday and when I saw the current scoreboard it was 4x-1. I said to myself..."F*ck that...I dont want to be on the other end of that.", then joined someone elses game.

So last night I completely unlocked the M4. I will probably use this with all classes except Support (M-TAR21), because I can conserve ammo better with the M4 due to the effective burst fire. Plus, it looks cool! Using coyote, green laser, R2 suppressor and stubby.



Does anyone know if these suppressors actually keep you off the radar? I know they say they do in the descriptions, but it doesnt seem like it.
 
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lozina

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http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/409580733945278592/188156428/

UCAV is not overpowered at all. /end sarcasm

It's hilariously easy to use. Unlocked the airburst warhead for it and it's truly easy mode now. It kills infantry in like a 15 foot radius around the thing when you set it off. This was the best round I had with it, but the rest of the ones I had were like this.

I've had plenty of rounds like that using artillery, the scout chopper when I have repairing + stinger buddies on board, the attack boat and the AA. While I suck at attack jets i have seen guys have scores like that in them too. There are plenty of tools/vehicles at our disposal that if the other team doesn't take proper countermeasures for or are just oblivious they will produce great results.

And more importantly - the UCAV is not going to win games. Feels like most of the games I camp with UCAV my team loses
 
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