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Phoenix86

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May 21, 2003
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I dunno, I dont lose too many gun battles when I use the ACE 52. Also have good success with the M4, which is burst, but that might be because my play style changes when I use it. And my highest KPM for any rifle with over 100 kills is actually the M16 , then the SKS. I mainly use the high ROF weapons, but I dont think you are at a severe disadvantage when using a higher damage/slower firing gun. The last time I played the AK-12 with a suppressor was starting to be my try hard gun. I think being able to control recoil is more important, at least for me.
My best KPM rifle is the ace 52, then ace 23... I don't mind slower/harder hitting guns because my accuracy in a 3-5 group is more accurate overall, the higher kick/shot but less shot/sec is easier to manage in bursts.
 

DeadFred

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I wish they would put ping limits on US servers, Im sick of playing against all the early morning eurotrash with 250+ pings.
 

KentState

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I wish they would put ping limits on US servers, Im sick of playing against all the early morning eurotrash with 250+ pings.

My way to combat that is to go play on Euro servers in the AM and try to take advantage of my high ping
 

Canbacon

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I wish they would put ping limits on US servers, Im sick of playing against all the early morning eurotrash with 250+ pings.

It is more so the Brazilian "Pro" players. Really annoying when they clan stack, use high ROF weapons and head glitch in a pub.
 

TheNiceGuy

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Dec 23, 2004
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Open them right away, you may get some nice attachments for weapons that you are using.

Just remember that the xp boosts are only able to be set in game. To do that, open op the menu by pressing "esc" then you should see an option in the bottom right corner of the screen.

Looks good, thanks.
Must I update the Radeon driver, or is the nag screen an option?
 

maevinj

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Nov 20, 2004
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It is more so the Brazilian "Pro" players. Really annoying when they clan stack, use high ROF weapons and head glitch in a pub.

Somehow I always end up on servers where this is occurring...

I use to play on the Euro servers on bf3. Looks like I'm going back to it in Bf4. I just hope they're less ban happy than they use to be...
 

Phoenix86

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There's tools for the server to boot high ping players.

There's no reason to have 150+ms ping, hell 100 is probably pushing it.
 

imaheadcase

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May 9, 2005
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No reason Battlelog plugin can't force region locking as well. They should of did that from the get go. It is very annoying seeing 200+ ping players on servers in freakin Chicago or Dallas.
 

satsau

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What's the issue with high ping? Is there an advantage/disadvantage?

I've been kicked before due to high ping when kids are on YouTube, Netflix, etc.
 

DeadFred

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Players with a ping 100ms higher than you will have a distinct advantage over you. They are harder for you to hit and they will kill you after you are certain you have already gone behind cover, the higher their ping the more noticeable this becomes.

This morning I was trying to counter a snipe a guy with a ping of 256ms while mine was 50, and while it appeared to me that I would fire first by several fractions of a second he would get the kill everytime. Im not sure if in reality he wasnt exactly where the server was telling me he was, or if the ping difference registered his shots first, or perhaps a combination of the two. Meanwhile I was owning everyone else in there who had a decent ping.

Get a server full of those high pingers and it's maddening!
 

VenBaja

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Players with a ping 100ms higher than you will have a distinct advantage over you. They are harder for you to hit and they will kill you after you are certain you have already gone behind cover, the higher their ping the more noticeable this becomes.

This morning I was trying to counter a snipe a guy with a ping of 256ms while mine was 50, and while it appeared to me that I would fire first by several fractions of a second he would get the kill everytime. Im not sure if in reality he wasnt exactly where the server was telling me he was, or if the ping difference registered his shots first, or perhaps a combination of the two. Meanwhile I was owning everyone else in there who had a decent ping.

Get a server full of those high pingers and it's maddening!

Having a high ping is in fact a disadvantage, and only to the high pinger; furthermore, only when the latency is sufficiently high. People these days seem to think 100-150ms is high, which it is certainly not. Your problem is most likely either with BF4's horrible coding and low tickrate, or you were just getting beaten fair and square.

As a test to see how much of an "advantage" having a high ping is, try connecting to a server in another country or throttling your connection and see how amazing you play. I'd wager you'll rethink your hypothesis.
 
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AznAnarchy99

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Dec 6, 2004
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Having a high ping is in fact a disadvantage, and only to the high pinger; furthermore, only when the latency is sufficiently high. People these days seem to think 100-150ms is high, which it is certainly not. Your problem is most likely either with BF4's horrible coding, or you were just getting beaten fair and square.

As a test to see how much of an "advantage" having a high ping is, try connecting to a server in another country or throttling your connection and see how amazing you play. I'd wager you'll rethink your hypothesis.

Ah I remember back in the day, 56k gaming, 300 ping.
 

VenBaja

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What's the issue with high ping? Is there an advantage/disadvantage?

I've been kicked before due to high ping when kids are on YouTube, Netflix, etc.

You get kicked because server admins don't have a good understanding of networking fundamentals or of the client/server relationship in online games. The server does not care what kind of latency you have, and has ultimate authority over your character movement/position. When the client/server disagree about your position because of latency and/or packet loss, the server puts you back where you should be. Most issues are handled pretty well by prediction and lag compensation in modern games, but when there is a miscommunication, it's never really advantageous for the client.
 

LtMikePowelll

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Still trying to find the best combo of attachments for DMRs so far not much success. Angled grip is nice on control the recoil but I'm still unsure about heavy barrel or muzzle brake
 

taq8ojh

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Still trying to find the best combo of attachments for DMRs so far not much success. Angled grip is nice on control the recoil but I'm still unsure about heavy barrel or muzzle brake
Due to the extreme kick of DMRs, I believe it's best to use angled grip along with muzzle break. Reducing FSM and vertical recoil is essential. HB won't do you much good since DMRs are single shot guns.
 

UaVaj

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I wish they would put ping limits on US servers, Im sick of playing against all the early morning eurotrash with 250+ pings.

at least you still getting on the USA server. in sunny florida, yet constantly being routed to european servers. ~150 ping.
 

LtMikePowelll

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Due to the extreme kick of DMRs, I believe it's best to use angled grip along with muzzle break. Reducing FSM and vertical recoil is essential. HB won't do you much good since DMRs are single shot guns.

Thanks for the tips. Seem like the M145 scope work pretty well for DMRs more than ACOG.
 

LtMikePowelll

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Just have a 10 game winning streak with Azn, we got a team that know how to push in rush instead of sitting back and camp like noobs.
 
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