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AznAnarchy99

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I'm thinking neither cheats. 2nd guy is an armor whore and nothing significant.

First guy is almost unbelievable but there are a couple of things that tell me he is not cheating. I look at stats of suspicious people on bf4stats.com because it gives me better stats. And two key things I look for are Kill Assists/Suppression Assists and Headshot/Kills percentage.

Aimbotters are typically headshot machines, getting kills as efficiently as possible. But normal players aren't like that. So normal players end up having very high kill assists/suppression assists scores, at least in line with the kills they are doing, which looks as I would expect for this guy.

So the second thing of course with Headshot/Kills % that would be ridiculous high on aimbotters. like at least 50% is getting to be near suspicious. His is only around 17%, which is not really much higher than mine.

You can change where on the body you want the aimbot to aim at.
 

tracerit

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is there a way to lock BF4 to a certain number of RAM? I have 8GB of RAM and have played perfectly fine but after I allocated 1GB of it to a Ramdisk for Chrome's cache, BF4 has been erroring out on me due to low memory within a minute or two of gameplay.

Not quite sure how this works haha
 

imaheadcase

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is there a way to lock BF4 to a certain number of RAM? I have 8GB of RAM and have played perfectly fine but after I allocated 1GB of it to a Ramdisk for Chrome's cache, BF4 has been erroring out on me due to low memory within a minute or two of gameplay.

Not quite sure how this works haha

Put BF4 in the ramdisk as well? Not sure why you using a ramdisk for chrome..it does not need one at all.
 

taq8ojh

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is there a way to lock BF4 to a certain number of RAM? I have 8GB of RAM and have played perfectly fine but after I allocated 1GB of it to a Ramdisk for Chrome's cache, BF4 has been erroring out on me due to low memory within a minute or two of gameplay.
There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to use RAMdisk. Period. Not even if you don't have a SSD. Just chop these ideas out of your heads people.
And especially not for things like browser cache.

Put BF4 in the ramdisk as well?
Uhm? How? Read his post. And why? You sound stoned or something.
 

imaheadcase

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There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to use RAMdisk. Period. Not even if you don't have a SSD. Just chop these ideas out of your heads people.
And especially not for things like browser cache.


Uhm? How? Read his post. And why? You sound stoned or something.


I think its you who is stoned, i gave him a legit answer. Yes you CAN use ramdisks for lots of things that help out a ton fyi. You don't need it for mundane things like browser cache, but it helps a ton for certain games, especially those people who have lots of older hardrives because not enough room on SSD. You can literally cut loading times in half.

In fact, lots of hometown ISP use ramdisk, you HAVE to because harddrives are not fast enough, to make a cheap on the fly for fiber connections without investing 10s of thousands in more equipment. Err never mind people can't grasp tech that has been around forever I guess they are to young.
 
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taq8ojh

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This whole RAMdisk business is a nonsense from the get-go. Buying enough RAM to be able to do this would cost probably twice as much as buying two SSDs, which do the job just as well and in much less awkward way.

All of these theories are basically flawed. Damn computer myths.
 

tracerit

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actually it doesn't seem to be the ramdisk causing my error. it's a directx error and further investigation seems like others are also getting it after the latest update.

EDIT: looks like it's an out of gpu ram error. sucks because i thought my r9 270 2GB would be enough. i'm currently playing much longer and havne't had a crash since turning MSAA down to 2x from 4x.

EDIT2: spoke too soon, crashed just now. ughh... this sucks.
 

taq8ojh

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Weird. 2GB should be plenty enough.
Try completely disabling AA and see what happens.
And first of all try to remove the ramdisk.
 

Paul98

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actually it doesn't seem to be the ramdisk causing my error. it's a directx error and further investigation seems like others are also getting it after the latest update.

EDIT: looks like it's an out of gpu ram error. sucks because i thought my r9 270 2GB would be enough. i'm currently playing much longer and havne't had a crash since turning MSAA down to 2x from 4x.

EDIT2: spoke too soon, crashed just now. ughh... this sucks.

Close chrome before you get into BF4, otherwise it will use up some of your vram.
 

tracerit

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i ran the RAM task manager and it shows at least an extrta 1gb of ram available during gameplay. will try closing Chrome. i usually leave it open all the time.

edit: turns out me turning off my page file caused the crashes. haven't crashed in the last two hours.
 
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DeadFred

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http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/424665518171158400/305137962/

Didnt think my team had a chance when I first joined as we were down by over 300 tickets and held only one spawn point. The enemy team held the flag closest to our base and was royally baseraping us. I concentrated on using an LAV to clear out the rapists and next thing ya know we hold all the flags and win by 10 tickets. Oh and evidently going on a rampage with an LAV and then clearing the skies with the AA nets you ZERO skill. LOL
 

taq8ojh

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turning off my page file
Dude, why, just WHY??!

This should warn anyone who believes in these so called tweaks to stop with the nonsense. "I have enough memory so I can turn it off" - no way in hell! But I don't think this particular myth will ever die, sadly.
 

KentState

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This whole RAMdisk business is a nonsense from the get-go. Buying enough RAM to be able to do this would cost probably twice as much as buying two SSDs, which do the job just as well and in much less awkward way.

All of these theories are basically flawed. Damn computer myths.

You could probably get 4 small SSD's that would hold as much as a RAMDisk on a typical PC and spend less. Even my RAID 0 setup isn't maxed out when loading anything in BF4. The most I've ever seen is about 50MB/sec.
 

BrightCandle

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A RAM disk will beat 10 SSDs easily. RAM is capable of a throughput in the 20+ GB/s range even on a basic machine, on mine its 41 GB/s. In addition to that its capable of sustaining much higher random access performance, to the tune of GB/s. Its multiple orders of magnitude faster than an SSD, which itself is an order of magnitude or two better than a HDD.

The problem is that it takes a very large amount of RAM, that the game needs to be copied into that RAM disk on each load of the OS and most of the time game load time is actually limited by the CPU and not IO speed. There are always cases where IO speed matters, and moving to a RAM disk can certainly help with those aspects but most of the time I would say the impact is minimal.

But its certainly not the case that a few SSDs are in any way comparable to RAM speeds, it isn't even close.
 

KentState

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A RAM disk will beat 10 SSDs easily. RAM is capable of a throughput in the 20+ GB/s range even on a basic machine, on mine its 41 GB/s. In addition to that its capable of sustaining much higher random access performance, to the tune of GB/s. Its multiple orders of magnitude faster than an SSD, which itself is an order of magnitude or two better than a HDD.

The problem is that it takes a very large amount of RAM, that the game needs to be copied into that RAM disk on each load of the OS and most of the time game load time is actually limited by the CPU and not IO speed. There are always cases where IO speed matters, and moving to a RAM disk can certainly help with those aspects but most of the time I would say the impact is minimal.

But its certainly not the case that a few SSDs are in any way comparable to RAM speeds, it isn't even close.

A RAMDisk barely beats a single SSD when it comes to BF4 level loads. My point is that you can buy a pair of SSD's for less than the RAM and MB requirements to put BF4 into RAM and get the same performance in the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzAtiDGHEjM
 

AznAnarchy99

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Cruise missile in commander mode is bugged. When you use it it doesn't refresh unless the point gets uncapped and recapped again.
 

DeadFred

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Now that game....really made me rage. It felt like I could dump entire mags into people at nearly point blank range with no effect on them whatsoever. I completely gave up on normal servers and played nothing but HC when I played it. No prone, no strafe, and giant fuzzy red dots that covered your target at 50 meters, UGH! BF3 was a huge improvement IMO.

But I still liked most of the maps, knifing was cool, and the Vietnam add on was fun, even with all it's other faults.
 
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