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joutlaw

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I'm happy about the FLIR/INVR and smoke grenade changes. This was a huge pain point in locker. I also like the border around the objectives. C4 has been nerfed for sure.
 

moonbogg

Lifer
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Yeah its all just wonderful. I'm ready for BF5. This game feels so damn old its ridiculous.
 

DeadFred

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Yeah its all just wonderful. I'm ready for BF5. This game feels so damn old its ridiculous.

LOL

Its not even 2 years old yet, tomorrow Oct.29 it will be.


You kids today are so spoiled, back in my day we only had one new game come out about every 8 years. Now get off my lawn! :biggrin:
 

Phoenix86

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Its not the first time they removed something for being too fun. If its unusually fun, it has to go.

If you have a true squad with the setup they mention it's almost impossible to take down the chopper with anything less than a RPG/tank shell

Laser/javs for superior ground killing, probably running laser guided on the helo.
Main guns/stinger for air.
Double repair.
Infinite ammo.

I get that it's fun, but it as also OP as fuck. Fortunately I didn't run into that setup often. Sorry looper.

RPGs still work.
 

Midwayman

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No more Stingers/Javelins on the choppers..... major bummer for those who like to play that way. (moi)

So, possible implications...
* tanks will have less to fear from the air
* players who liked to be Eng on CH w/ stinger, repair tool, and Saiga will not fly
as often (like me)
* will see more players as infantry/Eng's w/Javelins to kill tanks

Anyone see other new scenarios developing from these changes?

APS got hit with a nerf sledgehammer. Its practically worthless now. Hitting tanks with JDAM, etc will be much much easier now.

One thing I thing we'll see is lot of the jet whores going to 100+ - 0 rounds again. They nerfed the MAA severely. They added below radar. The STIGLA takes longer to lock and CM times have been reduced. Of course damage is way up on STIGLA. Very binary. Pro who know how to use CM are going to be taking way less damage. Medicore pilots might get hammered though. Doesn't seem like they left a reliable way to take down jets other than having your own jet pro.
 

DeadFred

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APS got hit with a nerf sledgehammer. Its practically worthless now. Hitting tanks with JDAM, etc will be much much easier now.
Being somewhat of an armor whore myself, Im not really noticing anything too bad about the APS nerf, but the lower ammo count and additional gun cool down period is driving me nuts. On the flip side, Im loving the lower staff shell count, running the sabot + staff combo was way OP on hardcore.
 

DeadFred

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If you have a true squad with the setup they mention it's almost impossible to take down the chopper with anything less than a RPG/tank shell

Laser/javs for superior ground killing, probably running laser guided on the helo.
Main guns/stinger for air.
Double repair.
Infinite ammo.

I get that it's fun, but it as also OP as fuck. Fortunately I didn't run into that setup often. Sorry looper.

RPGs still work.
Ive ran into that combo a few times and man was it frustrating. Especially when flying an opposing scout helo, since I rarely ever have one engineer to offer repairs for more than a few seconds before bailing. Sorry looper, but I too am glad its gone.
 

Phoenix86

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Ive ran into that combo a few times and man was it frustrating. Especially when flying an opposing scout helo, since I rarely ever have one engineer to offer repairs for more than a few seconds before bailing. Sorry looper, but I too am glad its gone.

I ran into this on Flood Zone (no jets to counter) about a week ago and decided to fuck with them as best I could, only way I could do anything was using stinger mobility hits to crash them into buildings. It limited them some, but they were still destroying our team.
 

looper

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Ive ran into that combo a few times and man was it frustrating. Especially when flying an opposing scout helo, since I rarely ever have one engineer to offer repairs for more than a few seconds before bailing. Sorry looper, but I too am glad its gone.

As Eng/repair/w-Stinger/Saiga, I NEVER bailed out of an attack chopper. I tried to never fly w/ anyone but one of my 'friends'/great pilots... have a list of about @ 8 or so who are fantastic pilots.... are few and far between... if one of them not on, then I play as infantry/Eng, ground or in tank.

I play TDM on Golmud Railway map @ 90% of the time. I'm a below-average to average player. My in-game user name I often change as I get bored... some of the names I play under:
Athletic-Anchovy
Insane-Fungus
DFWallace
Wall-St-Thief
CDO-of-ABS-FAIL
MrPoopyPants
Novak-Djokovic
JoJO-Mayer
 
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DeadFred

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As Eng/repair/w-Stinger/Saiga, I NEVER bailed out of an attack chopper. I tried to never fly w/ anyone but one of my 'friends'/great pilots... have a list of about @ 8 or so who are fantastic pilots.... are few and far between... if one of them not on, then I play as infantry/Eng, ground or in tank.

I play TDM on Golmud Railway map @ 90% of the time. I'm a below-average to average player. My in-game user name I often change as I get bored... some of the names I play under:
Athletic-Anchovy
Insane-Fungus
DFWallace
Wall-St-Thief
CDO-of-ABS-FAIL
MrPoopyPants
Novak-Djokovic
JoJO-Mayer
Ive seen a "MrPoopyPants" in game before.

You sound like a great squad mate. Im decent in a helo (low to average in jets) but Im not what I would consider to be a "great" pilot, even though I have finished a few matches in the same scout helo with zero deaths. And like I said, Im generally always on my own, landing to do my own repairs unless my son is online with me. But if he's on we usually go for the attack helo because he's a great gunner and gets bored with just doing repairs and launching a few rockets in the scout. My favorite helo maps are Golmud, Dawnbreaker, and Floodzone; and I almost always play on hardcore servers.

I also love to go on rampages in all types of armor (Tanks, APC's, AA) either as driver or gunner, doesnt matter as long as Im getting kills. I will fall back and repair as often as necessary to keep that armor going, I hate to die!!!

In game name- DeathDealer7177
 

looper

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If you have a true squad with the setup they mention it's almost impossible to take down the chopper with anything less than a RPG/tank shell

Laser/javs for superior ground killing, probably running laser guided on the helo.
Main guns/stinger for air.
Double repair.
Infinite ammo.

I get that it's fun, but it as also OP as fuck. Fortunately I didn't run into that setup often. Sorry looper.
RPGs still work.

I love BF4, but now my fav way of playing is gone.... this am was on the attack CH w/ my fav pilot, but I had to use the RPG trying to hit vehicles... I found it quite hard... maybe just need practice. What else could I use from the CH to kill tanks ? (not the pilot)...

And I'll also REALLY miss the duels with other CH's when I have the stinger onboard...

-depressed in RI... (current username in BF4 at Golmud TDM map... 'Insane-Fungus' )
 
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Phoenix86

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I love BF4, but now my fav way of playing is gone.... this am was on the attack CH w/ my fav pilot, but I had to use the RPG trying to hit vehicles... I found it quite hard... maybe just need practice. What else could I use from the CH to kill tanks ? (not the pilot)...

And I'll also REALLY miss the duels with other CH's when I have the stinger onboard...

-depressed in RI... (current username in BF4 at Golmud TDM map... 'Insane-Fungus' )

It is a bit hard, but if your pilot isn't whipping around like a vomit comet you'll get used it it. RPG is also useful against other helos, again not easy, but when you land a hit it's game over. Maybe switch to SMAW? I never liked it because I can deal with the drop from RPG well enough.

You have to understand it was an incredibly OP combo and you're simply not going to be as effective. For one, I wouldn't expect a scout helo even engage a tank, that's the attack helo's role. Maybe take some pot shots at it, but that's it.
 

looper

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It is a bit hard, but if your pilot isn't whipping around like a vomit comet you'll get used it it. RPG is also useful against other helos, again not easy, but when you land a hit it's game over. Maybe switch to SMAW? I never liked it because I can deal with the drop from RPG well enough.

You have to understand it was an incredibly OP combo and you're simply not going to be as effective. For one, I wouldn't expect a scout helo even engage a tank, that's the attack helo's role. Maybe take some pot shots at it, but that's it.

Yeah, I'll give the SMAW a shot... thx.

I hear BF5 is about a year away...
 

skipsneeky2

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For the first time,i jumped into a 40hz server and wow the difference is pretty amazing.Times i could kill 3 enemies with ease with less then a clip from my M416 in a matter of seconds.All my shots registered and none of those trade kills either.

I also noticed there is a ton less out of region players,whats the story with that?A handful on my last match as before there might have a good 3rd of the players with over 120+ping.
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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For the first time,i jumped into a 40hz server and wow the difference is pretty amazing.Times i could kill 3 enemies with ease with less then a clip from my M416 in a matter of seconds.All my shots registered and none of those trade kills either.

I also noticed there is a ton less out of region players,whats the story with that?A handful on my last match as before there might have a good 3rd of the players with over 120+ping.

The high ticket rate makes all the difference in the world. 40 doesn't quite seem to be enough for me, I still have those "dying after I already turned the corner" deaths. 50+ seems to be the sweet spot.

Many servers have ping kick bots which remove high pingers.
 

DeadFred

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The high ticket rate makes all the difference in the world. 40 doesn't quite seem to be enough for me, I still have those "dying after I already turned the corner" deaths. 50+ seems to be the sweet spot.

Many servers have ping kick bots which remove high pingers.

The 60Hz servers seem to be just right for me.
 

MBrown

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Is it normal for me to sometimes see my frame rate struggle to stay above 60 on a 64 player match with the rig I have below? Playing at 1440p max everything with no fxaa and 2x msaa.
 

moonbogg

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Hey, there was a deadfred playing on the server I'm always on. Was that our own deadfred from this thread?
 

Midwayman

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Is it normal for me to sometimes see my frame rate struggle to stay above 60 on a 64 player match with the rig I have below? Playing at 1440p max everything with no fxaa and 2x msaa.

Probably. The MSAA is probably killing you at that resolution. A single one of those gpus is maybe 50fps ultra no msaa @ 1440p from what I see.
 
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