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lozina

Lifer
Sep 10, 2001
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I started trying to play in vehicles and found myself ready to uninstall the game, kill my wife, slash my wrists, and destroy the house.

Probably not in that order though, I do believe you'd need to destroy your house before you slash your wrists

But that is surprising, which vehicles and what is the frustration with them?
 

MBrown

Diamond Member
Jul 5, 2001
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I got an issue that I have never come across till today with this game. Every time I try and change the graphics settings the game crashes...
 

Lat

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That's the only rifle I'm gunning for. I play engineer class exclusively ATM and with the carbines unlocked so far, really poor with targets more than 100 yards away.

The ACE 52 CQB actually has fairly low muzzle velocity; if you're looking to go for longer range engagements, I find the AK-5C to still be the best carbine.

ACE 52 is just a beast close to mid range though.
 

taq8ojh

Golden Member
Mar 2, 2013
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Probably not in that order though, I do believe you'd need to destroy your house before you slash your wrists

But that is surprising, which vehicles and what is the frustration with them?
Basically I am FPS games-retarded.

I can't even drive a bloody tank around without getting stuck in something every ten seconds.
Then all of a sudden I start taking damage and am dead before I even realize which direction it was coming from. The damn turret moves so slowly it takes me like five seconds to circle around, and obviously I still don't see jack shit.
When I see enemy tank, I start shooting, miss most of my shots, and he kills me.
I also can't hit any soldier that runs around, the stupid LMG doesn't seem to do much dmg at all. They quicky show up, shoot a RPG at me, and hide before I can react. If I try to move around to find them, I am usually dead before I turn around.

I am seriously close to smashing something here.
 

imaheadcase

Diamond Member
May 9, 2005
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I basically just use the A-91 now. Now sure what it is about this gun, but I constantly keep switching back to it when playing. I bleeds ammo, but reloads quick.

The single most annoying thing to me is when you reloading and die. lol
 

Childs

Lifer
Jul 9, 2000
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Basically I am FPS games-retarded.

I can't even drive a bloody tank around without getting stuck in something every ten seconds.
Then all of a sudden I start taking damage and am dead before I even realize which direction it was coming from. The damn turret moves so slowly it takes me like five seconds to circle around, and obviously I still don't see jack shit.
When I see enemy tank, I start shooting, miss most of my shots, and he kills me.
I also can't hit any soldier that runs around, the stupid LMG doesn't seem to do much dmg at all. They quicky show up, shoot a RPG at me, and hide before I can react. If I try to move around to find them, I am usually dead before I turn around.

I am seriously close to smashing something here.

Maybe turn up your vehicle mouse sensitivity. Also, if you use C in the vehicle you can go into third person view, so it might help with moving around and seeing where things are coming from. I dont like vehicles myself, and only use them to get from A to B, then I give it up if I have a passenger.
 

QuantumPion

Diamond Member
Jun 27, 2005
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I started trying to play in vehicles and found myself ready to uninstall the game, kill my wife, slash my wrists, and destroy the house.

LOL the same thing happened to me yesterday. I decided to try to unlock the MP7 so all I needed was an AA kill and 3 anti-vehicle ribbons. The AA kill wasn't hard at all but getting 3 anti-vehicle ribbons took hours. Over a 2 hour stretch I wasn't able to kill a single vehicle using any of the rocket launchers. They just do too little damage and the enemy tanks kill you instantly. I ended up getting my kills by putting SLAM mines on jeeps and waiting for an enemy to try to get in them and blow themselves up lol.
 

taq8ojh

Golden Member
Mar 2, 2013
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Oh don't get me started on vehicle sensitivity. DICE decided to fuck us over and keep it the way it was in BF3, and gunner seat is hardcoded to have like 5x the sensitivity main seat has.

Quantum: it took me like 5 long rounds to get the AA kill. 90% of the time they just flared away and laughed at me or flied away. It's completely impossible to get a kill by yourself. Getting a HIT is borderline impossible as well. You have to hope there are a few more people stupid enough to try to mess with stuff in the air.
 

Fire&Blood

Platinum Member
Jan 13, 2009
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Basically I am FPS games-retarded.

I can't even drive a bloody tank around without getting stuck in something every ten seconds.
Then all of a sudden I start taking damage and am dead before I even realize which direction it was coming from. The damn turret moves so slowly it takes me like five seconds to circle around, and obviously I still don't see jack shit.
When I see enemy tank, I start shooting, miss most of my shots, and he kills me.
I also can't hit any soldier that runs around, the stupid LMG doesn't seem to do much dmg at all. They quicky show up, shoot a RPG at me, and hide before I can react. If I try to move around to find them, I am usually dead before I turn around.

I am seriously close to smashing something here.

No, you are not FPS retarded. Set high DPI for the mouse. Max out the sensitivity setting for the in game vehicles. In a tank out of spawn, approach conflict areas carefully. SPAM Q or whatever key you changed the spotting to, if you changed the key bindings. Watch the minimap. Hang in there until you unlock active protection. Use boost when backing out of trouble. Active protection doesn't last long and the cooldown is massive but for it's brief duration, it will neutralize rockets fired at you. Mount the heavy MG once you unlock it. In normal mode, try to switch to 3rd person to spot guys to to side/behind you.

Get in a tank. As soon as you start leaving spawn, spam Q. At first try to stay at the edges of conflict areas, at least until you kill guys close by or figure out how many of them are there and how hard they are pushing into the area. If there are no enemy vehicles in the area, switch to MG, keep spamming Q and keep checking minimap. Stay mobile, even if it means moving just 10 ft then back to previous position. Stay mobile and watch your road kill count go up.

The ACE 52 CQB actually has fairly low muzzle velocity; if you're looking to go for longer range engagements, I find the AK-5C to still be the best carbine.

ACE 52 is just a beast close to mid range though.
On paper, the values that aren't good I can live with. ROF is ok for me, velocity is lower but recoil on the x axis is low, y axis I can simply counter with mouse. The range and damage is what got me going after it.


Funny scene last night: Childs 20 yards ahead of me, casually walks into a building. Silence, then a short burst is heard, then every weapon in the BF4 arsenal is heard then Childs running out of the building followed by half the enemy team, so many of them they block each other at the door trying to get out and go after him. Too bad I crashed, I was setup perfectly to blast the guys at the door.
 

QuantumPion

Diamond Member
Jun 27, 2005
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Sigh every time I try to give this game another chance I get into a server where I just spawndeath over and over again, enemies spawn directly behind me, enemies insta-killing me out of nowhere, enemies out-gunning me through suppression even though I had a solid second advantage shooting first...I've just about had it. I don't know what it is how some servers can be halfway decent and others are total garbage.
 

QuantumPion

Diamond Member
Jun 27, 2005
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Oh don't get me started on vehicle sensitivity. DICE decided to fuck us over and keep it the way it was in BF3, and gunner seat is hardcoded to have like 5x the sensitivity main seat has.

Quantum: it took me like 5 long rounds to get the AA kill. 90% of the time they just flared away and laughed at me or flied away. It's completely impossible to get a kill by yourself. Getting a HIT is borderline impossible as well. You have to hope there are a few more people stupid enough to try to mess with stuff in the air.

Oh no jets are impossible to hit with AA. But littlebirds with no engineer crew or attack choppers aren't difficult to take down with a little luck since there are plenty of kami-kazi noob pilots around. Try it on a 64 player server. Oh and don't bother with the IGLA, it is useless. Stick with the stinger.
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
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Oh no jets are impossible to hit with AA. But littlebirds with no engineer crew or attack choppers aren't difficult to take down with a little luck since there are plenty of kami-kazi noob pilots around. Try it on a 64 player server. Oh and don't bother with the IGLA, it is useless. Stick with the stinger.

You're crazy. The igla is miles ahead of the stinger. Pretty much take out everything with it.
 

QuantumPion

Diamond Member
Jun 27, 2005
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You're crazy. The igla is miles ahead of the stinger. Pretty much take out everything with it.

The IGLA loses its lock so easily, trees, other vehicles, anything nearby causes it to lose lock. It is extremely unreliable. It is only useful if you are on a rooftop or something trying to hit aircraft at longer range. The stinger is far more reliable at taking out choppers near by. So I guess you could say the IGLA is better vs jets while the stinger is better vs choppers but jets tend to just pop flares and fly out of range until they recharge anyway.
 

AlucardX

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May 20, 2000
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You're crazy. The igla is miles ahead of the stinger. Pretty much take out everything with it.

same here, i'm loving the IGLA. not hard to keep the crosshair on the vehicle to maintain the lock. might take a few rockets to burn off their flares, but you'll get some kills.
 

VulgarDisplay

Diamond Member
Apr 3, 2009
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Snagged premium from GMG with that deal. Not bad.

Anyone else not get the 12 battlepacks advertised as part of premium? I entered the code, and the top of my battlelog now says BF4 Premium. No battlepacks are showing though.
 

Childs

Lifer
Jul 9, 2000
11,450
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LOL the same thing happened to me yesterday. I decided to try to unlock the MP7 so all I needed was an AA kill and 3 anti-vehicle ribbons. The AA kill wasn't hard at all but getting 3 anti-vehicle ribbons took hours. Over a 2 hour stretch I wasn't able to kill a single vehicle using any of the rocket launchers. They just do too little damage and the enemy tanks kill you instantly. I ended up getting my kills by putting SLAM mines on jeeps and waiting for an enemy to try to get in them and blow themselves up lol.

I got mine in one round using the stinger on little birds. Just lock on and wait a sec...they almost always deploy flares right away, then blow them up. hehe I think I was actually in a little bird when I used the stingers!
 

Fire&Blood

Platinum Member
Jan 13, 2009
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Oh no jets are impossible to hit with AA. But littlebirds with no engineer crew or attack choppers aren't difficult to take down with a little luck since there are plenty of kami-kazi noob pilots around. Try it on a 64 player server. Oh and don't bother with the IGLA, it is useless. Stick with the stinger.

Both infantry AA weapons are pretty much useless against jets, he has to be in serious trouble to begin with if the IGLA or Stinger are to bring him down. Even a fully upgraded mobile AA can't hurt him unless he is busy with your teammates. All a jet has to do is to drop whatever he is doing and run, however some simply don't do that, they keep insisting on finishing what they are doing or they choose a poor exit strategy and that's AA's chance to bring them down.

Fully upgraded AA with 30mm guns and active radar rockets can clear an area of choppers for sure, jets can still penetrate it and do some damage before they are in trouble. Not counting boneheads that tried to take me out, it's pretty difficult to take out jets unless they are already busy with something. Though leading with the 30mm properly will help you capitalize on pilot's mistakes.

For a while I carried AA's on foot but it's a futile approach, as engineer it's better to go with anti armor and you still have the option to nail an annoying chopper, jets are out of reach if you are on foot anyway.

In games with vehicles, I am really liking the mobile AA. Gunships tend to be ignored for too long while they massacre us and in the mobile AA I get to clear the air and it's brutal on infantry too.
 

taq8ojh

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Mar 2, 2013
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Snagged premium from GMG with that deal. Not bad.

Anyone else not get the 12 battlepacks advertised as part of premium? I entered the code, and the top of my battlelog now says BF4 Premium. No battlepacks are showing though.
And Europe got fucked over yet again. Support told me the code is for american version only. FFS.
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
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I got mine in one round using the stinger on little birds. Just lock on and wait a sec...they almost always deploy flares right away, then blow them up. hehe I think I was actually in a little bird when I used the stingers!

I got all my ribbons easily by flying a jet and taking out the ac-130 over and over lol
 

Childs

Lifer
Jul 9, 2000
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Oh no jets are impossible to hit with AA.

Both infantry AA weapons are pretty much useless against jets, he has to be in serious trouble to begin with if the IGLA or Stinger are to bring him down.

*Ahem*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnM3uCXQfRY

I dont even normally record this stuff anymore because its so common. I would have had a Little Bird, Attack Heli and Jet in one minute if Raasco didnt finish off the attack heli. I usually get 4-5 aircraft a round when I use the stingers.
 

Fire&Blood

Platinum Member
Jan 13, 2009
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*Ahem*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnM3uCXQfRY

I dont even normally record this stuff anymore because its so common. I would have had a Little Bird, Attack Heli and Jet in one minute if Raasco didnt finish off the attack heli. I usually get 4-5 aircraft a round when I use the stingers.

Nice though that's different, I was talking about the on foot/ground vehicles scenario. Riding in a chopper keeps you closer to targets that would be out of range if you were on foot. A chopper with 2 engineers on board doing different things (1 repairing, the other engaging air targets) is almost as difficult to take down as a jet, even in mobile AA.
 
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