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orbster556

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Doesn't surprise me, considering this already happens in Locker and Metro is more of a clusterf* than Locker is.

Yeah, if I was in the mood for a meat-grinder style match, I would play Locker over Metro.

The additional tunnel they added to Metro doesn't do enough to offset the addition of Airbursts and v40s. And, I also think playing on No-Explosive servers isn't all that practical for two reasons: first, these servers usually allow flares to be used so you wind up suffering from endless red haze; second, the lack of explosives makes it very difficult to dislodge campers who are headglitching behind crates or by the escalators.

Other maps are great but the BF4 iteration of Metro is borderline unplayable.
 

DeadFred

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I only play Metro for the F2000, and since I already got in the first game of Metro, I'm done with that map forever.
Man Im about to explode with rage! Played 2 rounds on that horrible map with 1000 tickets and lacked 1 kill assist ribbon each time. Tons of kills, but I cant seem to let off the trigger and let someone else finish the job. LOL

Next time after I get my assault kills im switching to the CBJ-MS, aka: the nail gun.
 

LtMikePowelll

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Man Im about to explode with rage! Played 2 rounds on that horrible map with 1000 tickets and lacked 1 kill assist ribbon each time. Tons of kills, but I cant seem to let off the trigger and let someone else finish the job. LOL

Next time after I get my assault kills im switching to the CBJ-MS, aka: the nail gun.

So far I only took a round each maps to get most of the gun, except the AS VAL cause everybody take the chopper so fast.
 

suklee

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Haven't been able to play at all last few days. Stuck forever on the server loading screen (FPS counter still moves so PC isn't frozen). The 2 times I managed to get into a Metro server I had no gun, no HUD, and all the player models were invisible.

Tried reinstalling PB, Catalyst 14.1 betas but still no go, and have trouble trying to go back to 13.12. Sigh
 

96Firebird

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So far I only took a round each maps to get most of the gun, except the AS VAL cause everybody take the chopper so fast.

I'm not positive, but I think you can use the chopper on any map. I haven't even played the SA maps yet and I have time allotted towards my chopper time, and already have my squad repairs complete. Hell, I haven't even played since downloading the new patch.
 

DeadFred

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I'm not positive, but I think you can use the chopper on any map. I haven't even played the SA maps yet and I have time allotted towards my chopper time, and already have my squad repairs complete. Hell, I haven't even played since downloading the new patch.
Yeah I got the AS VAL before second assault even released. Got the F2000 this morning, now I too can avoid the metro. :biggrin:

Was able to get the GOL magnum last night sniping from the tower on Caspian. I guess ill go for the DAO next it looks like it should be fairly easy. But alas work is interrupting my gaming fun atm.
 

moonbogg

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See official verdict below:

Caspian = ruined
Oman = dirty and ruined
Metro = lol derp
Firestorm = Pretty damn nice!
 

Spike

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Played last night and got the F2000 after 3 rounds on Metro. No problem with kills, just could not get lots of kill assists. Finally just grabbed an M249 and put a lot of lead downrange to get tons of small hits on people. Then teammates finished them off

Stupid question, someone mentioned active missile nerf for AA, did that happen? How bad is it? I love using the active missiles since I can divide my time between targets easier.

I do need to reinstall windows 7 on my secondary PC to avoid the 8.1 + 6970 memory leak problem thats still there. Though for those with the audio loop crash under 8.1 we found that disabling the integrated graphics (Intel CPU) in task manager fixed the problem.

Thx, I just unlocked it. I was effin around the info page and apparently unlocked all the DMR's too: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/news/view/shortcut-kits-now-live/

This last weekend I finally finished unlocking all the DMR's and then I see this yesterday! Man, I would schedule my DMR time on double xp weekends with boosts just to get them all unlocked and then they give them away for free... ugh.
 
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Spike

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But if you had unlocked the DMRs like I did before the accuracy buff, you'd be really good with them. The Scar SV is now my highest kill weapon with my ACR at 70% of its kills. It's all I pretty much use these days.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/soldier/Anathaema/weapons/309426284/1/#scar-h-sv

They had an accuracy buff? That explains why I was stacking up kills this weekend on shots I doubted I should have made. I gotta keep up with all of the buffs/nerfs going on.

Thats what I wanted, the SCAR, and the entire reason I was working my way through them. I'll be giving that rifle a try this week to see what I think of it. Hopefully it will be better than the last unlock I really wanted, the DBV. That shotgun is ok, but I still like the first QBS thing for whatever reason.

Shows you how fickle I am with weapons, my gun with the most kills is the MP443. Both from a few pistol only rounds and my inability to decide on a main few rifles to use, I like to spread kills around

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/soldier/TheMrSpike/weapons/234694486/1/#mp443
 
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Spike

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Agree with your judgments except Caspian. What in particular do you not like about the changes they made?

I'd have to say Metro is just about as perfect as before... or as imperfect depending on your point of view. The changes made to it are not enough to eliminate a bottleneck, though they do allow some more movement. I can see myself playing rounds every once in a while on it since there are times I enjoy that kind of chaos. Otherwise I will stick to the vehicle maps.
 

DeadFred

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See official verdict below:

Caspian = ruined
Oman = dirty and ruined
Metro = lol derp
Firestorm = Pretty damn nice!
Agree with your most of your assessments. Im still undecided about Caspian though, I need to play it more before passing judgement.
 

moonbogg

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Agree with your judgments except Caspian. What in particular do you not like about the changes they made?

For me, Caspian was a great map because it was large and open and allowed for good tank battles at distance, great sniping and general situational awareness. All of that is ruined. Its like two smaller maps stuck together now due to the wall.
Oman is actually fantastic, until the stupid storm hits. It would be fine if it was more like Paracel where the storm hits near the end of the round. With Oman the storm hits right away which feels like a mistake to me.
Metro is more of the same, which is fine depending on your view. So maybe I was too harsh on this one. I enjoy a frag fest every now and then. I do enjoy Locker more though so far. To be fair I haven't tried rush on the new Metro yet, so maybe I will like that more.
I do think Firestorm is just great. They took a great map and enhanced it without breaking anything. They added fun features, like burning people on the tower which is hilarious. Wonderful job here and I love the new color pallet.
 

Spike

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For me, Caspian was a great map because it was large and open and allowed for good tank battles at distance, great sniping and general situational awareness. All of that is ruined. Its like two smaller maps stuck together now due to the wall.
Oman is actually fantastic, until the stupid storm hits. It would be fine if it was more like Paracel where the storm hits near the end of the round. With Oman the storm hits right away which feels like a mistake to me.
Metro is more of the same, which is fine depending on your view. So maybe I was too harsh on this one. I enjoy a frag fest every now and then. I do enjoy Locker more though so far. To be fair I haven't tried rush on the new Metro yet, so maybe I will like that more.
I do think Firestorm is just great. They took a great map and enhanced it without breaking anything. They added fun features, like burning people on the tower which is hilarious. Wonderful job here and I love the new color pallet.

Good info, I've only played metro at this point (getting the F2000) but am going to try other maps tonight. One of the assignments talks about starting fires, can you do that now with the expansion? Or are they just referring to burning people on that tower?

EDIT Nevermind, figured it out.
 
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orbster556

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For me, Caspian was a great map because it was large and open and allowed for good tank battles at distance, great sniping and general situational awareness. All of that is ruined. Its like two smaller maps stuck together now due to the wall.

I've only been able to play Caspian twice so my expierience is obviously limited. Although I don't hate the wall, I'm not a huge fan. I do, however, like the additional tunnel/tower they added by D.

As you're the most experienced sniper I know, what are your thoughts on the different sniper rifles available in the game? Although I'm primarily a tanker or Assault player on TDM (http://bf4stats.com/pc/Karaya_One), I recently started trying sniping in TDM matches and am really enjoying it.

I used the L96A1 to unlock almost all the sniper rifles but have switched over to SRR-61 once I unlocked it. Although I know it has a very low RPM, I don't really notice it since I'm not skilled enough to play aggressive recon and thus sit back and snipe from the backfield.

Looking at your Battlepage, it would seem as if you're focusing on the M98B over the others. Any particular reason you chose it over the others and would you recommend switching?
 

moonbogg

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I've only been able to play Caspian twice so my expierience is obviously limited. Although I don't hate the wall, I'm not a huge fan. I do, however, like the additional tunnel/tower they added by D.

As you're the most experienced sniper I know, what are your thoughts on the different sniper rifles available in the game? Although I'm primarily a tanker or Assault player on TDM (http://bf4stats.com/pc/Karaya_One), I recently started trying sniping in TDM matches and am really enjoying it.

I used the L96A1 to unlock almost all the sniper rifles but have switched over to SRR-61 once I unlocked it. Although I know it has a very low RPM, I don't really notice it since I'm not skilled enough to play aggressive recon and thus sit back and snipe from the backfield.

Looking at your Battlepage, it would seem as if you're focusing on the M98B over the others. Any particular reason you chose it over the others and would you recommend switching?

Beware of the man with one gun. As a sniper I try to lead people and shoot at chopper pilots etc. Making those hard shots happens more often if I stick with one gun, one scope configuration and get totally married to it.
For TDM, there are arguable better combos, such as faster cycling bolt guns etc, but I stick to the M98.
I chose it because it shoots flat enough for consistent 1000m+ shots and has a faster velocity and holds more rounds than the SRR.
I don't use range finders and I don't zero because that stuff takes too long to use for aggressive sniping and I do better with just aiming higher.
If you like sitting far away and just hunting people, the SRR shoots a little slower, but it shoots flatter. So for long distance camping the SRR should suit you well, but I have yet to find a distance too far to hit someone with the M98 and an 8x-14x scope setup.
 
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