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VulgarDisplay

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One of the original reasons I stopped playing around January was because of this stupid bug and now last night it was back. I seriously hope it was temporary and that these real fixes to the netcode appear soon because its deeply frustrating to burst 31 bullets at someone close up and find you didn't even knock the health down to half and the recording shows they should have been dead after just 5 bullets.

I'm in the community test and I find the netcode even more frustrating with their fixes. It could be because I have mediocre to bad pings to all the servers though.
 

Phoenix86

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I don't think you can use battlemap in HC though as it is dependent on the minimap being enabled.
Correct, I had to scroll up to see this was originally about HC. My bad guys, I don't play HC because I like a hybrid set of rules and I never found a server I liked with the right setup.

Battlelog doesn't give you a map when it's disabled in-game, it shows you the in-game map via the website (which you can have open on another monitor/device).
 

Jeeebus

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Well tonight was fun. Banned from first server I tried to enter for Lord knows what. Auto switched in the middle of running around on the next two... always fun to be KIA for no reason and then see you were switched.

Then end up in a server that apparently bans c4. And with that, off to bed.
 

toughtrasher

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Well tonight was fun. Banned from first server I tried to enter for Lord knows what. Auto switched in the middle of running around on the next two... always fun to be KIA for no reason and then see you were switched.

Then end up in a server that apparently bans c4. And with that, off to bed.

Who bans C4 lol
 

skipsneeky2

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Curious to see what any 680/770 owners are running settings wise for this game. I enable all high no msaa and performance is great with 60+ all the time but going all ultra i tank into the 40's during explosions.

Any happy medium i should be using?All ultra pushs my card into the 2gb usage range and i get a relentless stutter.
 

BrightCandle

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For multiplayer I used to run ultra with MSAA reduced to 2x. This used to give me FPS around 110-160 depending on the map and situation. However since the January patch performance has dramatically decreased and I now tend to run High settings instead. I don't check FPS as its clearly high enough without stutter or performance issues. I do need to do something about the Antialiasing however as I noticed last night its a bit blurry in the distance.

I did in between have a custom setup that reduce the foilaged and texture quality of the world which helped with spotting but it had problems with stuttering also. I am not convinced its a VRAM issue since the stuttering was introduced with the January (Mantle) patch and hasn't been fixed since. Since its not a blanket reduction in FPS but something that is periodic its more likely its a problem in the engine or driver causing it (garbage collection based probably). VRAM issues don't manifest like this, they impact ever frame and do so dramatically. The periodic nature looks more like a CPU issue but I haven't bothered to graph it and see if its supposedly CPU or GPU based, but then that would only tell me whether it was in Dice code or Microsoft/Nvidia and not necessarily that it was GPU rendering that was taking the time as the boundary of DX is the wrong place to measure GPU contribution.
 
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skipsneeky2

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For multiplayer I used to run ultra with MSAA reduced to 2x. This used to give me FPS around 110-160 depending on the map and situation. However since the January patch performance has dramatically decreased and I now tend to run High settings instead.

Guess i mind as well run high too, kinda sucks you got such a nice rig and have to do such a thing as drop settings cause of game related issues. When you mean dramatically decreased are you hitting under 60 or far below perhaps a certain frame cap?
 

BrightCandle

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On ultra what happens I am in the 60-80 range but it stutters on getting hit and periodically. But it used to be basically double that so something dramatic happened in that patch to reduce my performance.
 

skipsneeky2

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On ultra what happens I am in the 60-80 range but it stutters on getting hit and periodically. But it used to be basically double that so something dramatic happened in that patch to reduce my performance.

Damn, you do have to wonder what happened then.
 

BrightCandle

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Damn, you do have to wonder what happened then.

My conspiracy theory is they had to slow down the DX path to make Mantle look worth the effort. It was the Mantle patch that broke it for me and its been broken in this way ever since so I don't hold out much hope they are going to fix it. Kind of like the broken netcode, I know I am always going to die around corners and need twice as many bullets as a I should because of "stuff". I just don't think Dice know how to fix it, the talent walked out the door or went directly into the Frostbite engine team and now they lack the technical know how to make games work.
 

skipsneeky2

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. It was the Mantle patch that broke it for me and its been broken in this way ever since so I don't hold out much hope they are going to fix it. Kind of like the broken netcode, I

The netcode is crap i can agree. I was standing on a wooden crate in Operation Locker against a wall attempting to get out of the line of fire tossing down med bags to heal nearby team mates and suddenly out of no where i fall dead with a suicide message and bad luck.

Mantle seems like a very touchy topic concerning this game,i couldn't tell you if a switch to a 290x would do anything great compared to a 680/770 or 780 or if some patch completely broke the entire game no matter the hardware. The game on ultra does feel purposely gimped on my card sometimes with much lower fps on ultra over high while i register low gpu usage.
 

BrightCandle

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Hmm new problem, can't launch the game at all. Its actually some form of DirectX error but I can't see what it is, but its crashing on trying to join a server and it locks the machine up completely. Going to try and complete uninstall and reinstall but its pretty darn annoying. I didn't even install any new software today, it just stopped working all of a sudden. About the only thing I can find is different is the chrome team released a new stable build today, which automagically installed itself silent. But if that is crashing the game or the Nvidia driver that would be a new one.


Edit - No I just realised what I did, I tested a load of settings after I was asked about it. Of course the settings changing in game I hadn't likely reconnected.....so there we have it changing the settings caused the darn game to crash and now I have to wait 26GB of download because I didn't realise what I did that caused it. Thanks EA for not having a verify install button like steam.
 
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LtMikePowelll

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Hmm new problem, can't launch the game at all. Its actually some form of DirectX error but I can't see what it is, but its crashing on trying to join a server and it locks the machine up completely. Going to try and complete uninstall and reinstall but its pretty darn annoying. I didn't even install any new software today, it just stopped working all of a sudden. About the only thing I can find is different is the chrome team released a new stable build today, which automagically installed itself silent. But if that is crashing the game or the Nvidia driver that would be a new one.


Edit - No I just realised what I did, I tested a load of settings after I was asked about it. Of course the settings changing in game I hadn't likely reconnected.....so there we have it changing the settings caused the darn game to crash and now I have to wait 26GB of download because I didn't realise what I did that caused it. Thanks EA for not having a verify install button like steam.

I thought Origin have an option for repair the game?
 

Jeeebus

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servers that play objective based modes like CTF and Rush.

A few c4 on the objective and it usually stays where it is.

This is a 24/7 conquest golmud railway server. I'he seen a few other golmud conquest servers that also limit c4 kills. Completely idiotic and contrary to my Allah Akbar suicide jeep playstyle.
 

VulgarDisplay

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My conspiracy theory is they had to slow down the DX path to make Mantle look worth the effort. It was the Mantle patch that broke it for me and its been broken in this way ever since so I don't hold out much hope they are going to fix it. Kind of like the broken netcode, I know I am always going to die around corners and need twice as many bullets as a I should because of "stuff". I just don't think Dice know how to fix it, the talent walked out the door or went directly into the Frostbite engine team and now they lack the technical know how to make games work.

They have been adding back in things that were removed from the game in the first few patches from what i remember. Stuff like environment effects and other fluff.
 
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