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DeadFred

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Seems the shotguns have taken a hefty buff and the LMG's have been neutered, having to relearn everything 2 years into the game. Go jump off a cliff DICE!
 

jackstar7

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Seems the shotguns have taken a hefty buff and the LMG's have been neutered, having to relearn everything 2 years into the game. Go jump off a cliff DICE!

Jumped into my first game in months and grabbed a shotgun and was destroying even at range... that was really ridiculous.
 

DeadFred

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Jumped into my first game in months and grabbed a shotgun and was destroying even at range... that was really ridiculous.
Yeah, they've made them insane. You can kill people with buckshot at ranges only slugs could reach before.
 

Phoenix86

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May 21, 2003
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Seems the shotguns have taken a hefty buff and the LMG's have been neutered, having to relearn everything 2 years into the game. Go jump off a cliff DICE!

No idea what the recent changes are, but I started playing a bit again and LMGs seem fine. I was dying to odd long range shotguns so maybe I need to check them out.
 

Bill Brasky

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Seems the shotguns have taken a hefty buff and the LMG's have been neutered, having to relearn everything 2 years into the game. Go jump off a cliff DICE!

They made changes to the cone of fire spreads to guns and there was an un-intentional *extra* multiplier. It has to do with high rate of fire weapons when used with a grip.

Dice admitted it was a mistake, but it probably won't fixed till the summer patch. It's the same old story.
 

DeadFred

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They made changes to the cone of fire spreads to guns and there was an un-intentional *extra* multiplier. It has to do with high rate of fire weapons when used with a grip.

Dice admitted it was a mistake, but it probably won't fixed till the summer patch. It's the same old story.
Yeah, about the time I get used to this patch they will come out with the next and have me screwed up all over again.
 

DeadFred

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Origin spring sale
from Origin,
Battlefield 4 + Premium (Origin) — $24.99
until June 22nd
Good, maybe that will entice some more noobs into the game. Seems like Ive been getting my butt kicked more than usual lately, I need some softer targets.
 

AlucardX

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My history with BF goes back to 1942, but I sort of lost interest after BF3. I recently grabbed the 5-day free version of BF4, and certain aspects of it are a lot of fun. Certainly better than any other large-scale multiplayer shooter that's out there now, as far as I know. I can compare it with Tribes, PS2, and COD at least. One thing that drives me nuts is that fracking horrible browser-based launcher. Is there a solution for people who don't use IE as their default? Chrome won't load the activex control (thankfully) so I have to paste the url into IE every time I want to play. I'd really love to just have a native server browser/updater/launcher/settings manager.

I've never had this issue, Battlelog works fine for me on Firefox and Chrome.

After you log in, did you download the battleog plugin? Look near the very top middle of the web page, you should see a yellow down arrow with a circle around it. This tells you when you need to download the plugin (or a newer version of the plugin).
 

Phoenix86

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Crome + Battlelog works, but I think you have to do a couple things to allow it. Check your plugins to make sure it's not disabled by default. Remove the plugin and reinstall it. I can't remember what I did, but I had to go through some fairly easy step to get mine working.

Crome isn't supporting Unity in the future, so that may be an issue, but Firefox works.
 

RaulF

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Game started getting device hung crashes left and right.

I pinpointed the issue being MSI afterburner.
 

skipsneeky2

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Seems the shotguns have taken a hefty buff and the LMG's have been neutered, having to relearn everything 2 years into the game. Go jump off a cliff DICE!

That is stupid.It's like a beta that never seems to be done.The freaking fact we need premium to access CTE to test this is even more absurd.Imagine like COD BO2 suddenly getting a weapon buff/nerf and overhaul.

So glad i don't play this much any more,i jump on after updates to find new issues and me uninstalling it yet again.
 

DeadFred

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Game started getting device hung crashes left and right.

I pinpointed the issue being MSI afterburner.
Ive started having them too, just yesterday right out of the blue. I played for about an hour and a half yesterday morning with no issues then in the afternoon I started getting the device hung error within a minute of entering a server. I dont have MSI Afterburner so that cant be my problem.

Update Edit; So this morning I updated my PB, ran the DirectX.exe in the bf4 folder, disabled a bunch of useless programs from startup and the game has run fine so far. Only time will tell if the problem has been solved.
 
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RaulF

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Anyone able to run Gaming Evolve FPS counter in BF4 64bit?

Mine does not work for some reason.
 

uclaLabrat

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Starting using the win 10 beta this weekend and the game only runs about 5 min before crashing, in the test range and multiplayer. Can't figure out the issue.
 

moonbogg

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I was wondering something. The player under me on the BF4 M98B leaderboards is no longer on the leaderboards. Either that or the website is glitching out. Why would a player vanish from the leaderboards?
 

destrekor

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So I recently wiped and installed Windows 8.1 on my system. Thus, I'm at the stage where I am getting things configured properly. Some things have changed on this system with a new installation, as I had went from Nvidia to AMD GPUs (from SLI to CFX) and some system settings had to change to remain smooth, like disabling HPET and whatnot.

I was mostly using GTA V as a benchmark for performance and frame pacing/stutter. Decided I should test other games to ensure I'm acknowledging that GTA V could be the only issue.

I loaded up a 64p map in BF4 and turned on the performance overlay graph. Mind you, I have framerate capped at 60fps, on a triple monitor 6048x1080p (bezel corrected) resolution, with 2x290X.

With HPET on and UsePlatformClock=True, I saw the CPU at 16.67ms in a solid line, as expected, but the GPU seemed to fluctuate quite a bit and averaged around 23ms on the graph (that's per frame, for those that are unaware).
With HPET on and UsePlatformClock=False, again the CPU remained the same but the GPU dropped closer, averaging around 18ms/frame and with seemingly smoother variations without as much jumping around.

I'm under the assumption that, with 60fps locked (and the frame counter in game continuing to display 60fps even with the graph fluctuating), the GPU should keep to around 16.67ms/frame though obviously some variance might be expected.

I feel both felt smooth, but honestly I wasn't as into the test sessions as I should have been... I was more obsessed with the graph than the actual gameplay. I know I was seeing some mild microstuttering in GTA V once I got things ironed out (which means mild microstuttering appeared smooth compared to what I saw before), but I haven't tested it again with everything I figured out for GTA V along with having the platformclock option disabled.
I truly hope to leave HPET on as that makes OS X in my dual-boot config happy (no HPET = angry, vengeful, suicidal OS X that hates life and doesn't want to continue on), but if I should truly be looking for a nearly locked 16.67ms/frame on the GPU, I'll have to investigate that. It did seem to be ever so slightly worse with HPET off in other testing I did.
 

HitAnyKey

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Game is fun but I am getting my butt kicked as a noobie without a squad. Whats the preferred map these day?
 

dfuze

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I usually play on a metro server but am looking for some other well populated maps. If you'd believe the games server browser you'd think there were only about 40 total and most stocked with 2 or 3 people. What is the best way to find some more populated servers?
 

DeadFred

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I usually play on a metro server but am looking for some other well populated maps. If you'd believe the games server browser you'd think there were only about 40 total and most stocked with 2 or 3 people. What is the best way to find some more populated servers?
Check your server browser options and make sure all the maps you want to play are selected then under Free Slots put a check beside these options: None, 1-5, 6-10, and 10+. That should filter out the emptys and you may want to also uncheck 10+, if you only want fuller servers. There are plenty of full Normal Ranked servers, unfortunately Hardcore is a little more sparse.
 

Bart*Simpson

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Game is fun but I am getting my butt kicked as a noobie without a squad. Whats the preferred map these day?

Welcome to my very first post on this forum!

I've been playing BF4 since January 2011 and my recommendation for you as a noob is to stick to the larger maps for now where you can be in-game and observe some of the game play without getting sliced and diced much by the Run-N-Gun crowd.

Pretty much, that means avoid Operation Locker until you develop some skills in the game. It also means to stick to the 64 player maps of everything else.

I'd also recommend finding an empty server where you can fly around and get a feel for the aircraft, do some stunt driving in the vehicles, and test out the different kits to see what ranges the weapons have and just mess around.

One of my recent tactics is to drop anti-tank mines in places where the enemy infantry will frequent and then respawn as a sniper and wait for someone to get near the mine and then shoot it. I've often scored multiple kills with this. I'm not very fast in the game so this tactic has helped me match the skills of the younger, faster players.

Old age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill.

The anti-aircraft vehicles are easy and versatile. You can use them against aircraft (of course) but they're also devastating against infantry and, again, you can use them to compensate for the game play of the faster more skilled folks.

In game I am LongTrang1 - which is an homage to Carlos Hathcock, USMC.

See you on the Battlefield!
 
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Bart*Simpson

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Okay and I have a four year old HP that was hot in its time with two six-core Xeon and a 4GB video card with 48GB RAM.

It's time for a new rig and I can go to about $3,000 on it.

Any suggestions for a rig that is going to work well with BF4? I ask because my old rig took nearly 3.5 years of tweaking before it stopped blue screening on me all the time when I was in BF4.
 

Chocu1a

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Okay and I have a four year old HP that was hot in its time with two six-core Xeon and a 4GB video card with 48GB RAM.

It's time for a new rig and I can go to about $3,000 on it.

Any suggestions for a rig that is going to work well with BF4? I ask because my old rig took nearly 3.5 years of tweaking before it stopped blue screening on me all the time when I was in BF4.

Umm...I have a 6core Xeon, 12gb ram & a 4gb card. I have absolutely NO issues playing BF4 (or GTA5, or Crysis 3, or Far Cry 4, or Dying Light).
You probably don't need a new rig, unless you just want epeen bragging rights.
 

AznAnarchy99

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Okay and I have a four year old HP that was hot in its time with two six-core Xeon and a 4GB video card with 48GB RAM.

It's time for a new rig and I can go to about $3,000 on it.

Any suggestions for a rig that is going to work well with BF4? I ask because my old rig took nearly 3.5 years of tweaking before it stopped blue screening on me all the time when I was in BF4.

I'm running on all ultra with a 6 year old first gen i7. You're fine..
 
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