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Dark4ng3l

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Snipers are not that big of a problem. You just need to know how to deal with them. Don't run straight towards enemy positions and don't run directly perpendicular to them either. Don't always run full blast either if you know there are 4 snipers aiming at you. Snipers are less of a problem on conquest maps because of their more non linear nature. Some of the rush maps have "phases" that are really bad and are always sniper central(like the first part of the desert rush map with both sides having lots of tanks and the first part of the map with the Russians starting on an island) but for the most part it's reasonable.

The real problem is when you have good players flying an attack helicopter. They can destroy everything and even if you manage to damage them (hard because good pilots don't hover around in one spot) they just retreat and repair the thing.
 

pontifex

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Yeah right, MW2 has more campers than I've ever seen in a game. 1 guy in the entire server, haha, good job downplaying the issue. I get games where both teams sit in once place the entire game waiting for someone to move forward who then promptly gets shot. It is all that people do even if you don't want to see it, and it's obvious because the game favors it with the killstreak rewards.



Oh yeah. Of course it's a valid military tactic when you do it.


lmao. you must not play very many FPS games then. i'm not downplaying the issue. if anything you're exaggerating it. I said I don't deny some people do it, but its not any where near as bad as you make it out to be. I have never once seen both entire teams camping in 1 spot the whole game. you're so full of shit.

so you're saying that ambushing is not a military tactic? no wonder i have a hard time believing the BS you're spewing here.
 

SR1729

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Did you buy it from Steam? From what I've read you have to run that as Admin. If you bought it any other way you have to right click the launch icon and run it as Admin.

Are you running Windows 7? I see a lot of people using that having the ping issue. I don't have it, but was wondering if it had a way to run games as XP compatibility mode...

Personally, I've never experienced any of the browser issues everyone's describing (other than it being slow and lacking basic features). I'm running Windows 7 64-bit and I purchased from Steam, and I've never had to use "run as...". Granted, my account IS the admin account, so maybe that matters. Had the demo and didn't uninstall it, either.
 

SR1729

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And I do a lot of games where I am either 15/3 or 3/10.

Same here. My k/d is slowly climbing. Was playing the 360 version last night after putting some big hours into the PC version and I absolutely cleaned house.
 

SR1729

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BC2 has larger maps and more people, its a lot harder to play BC2 with the same tactics that you would use in MW2.

Not to bag on Pontifex (it truly does suck when you spend $50 on a game and don't enjoy it, so I feel your pain), but I suspect this is a big part of the problem since I went through the same thing. Run-n-gun = win in COD4 and MW2. Run-n-gun = SUICIDE in BC2.

BC2 tricks you into feeling like you're playing a fast-paced action game requiring snap decision making and lightning fast reflexes. Thank the stellar sound environment and all of the vehicles at your fingertips for that illusion. In reality, the game rewards slow, careful planning. As soon as I got that through my head, I started to find success.

I think the only difference between you and I Pontifex is that I had fun figuring that out. It just seems to be frustrating you. When you get into a game, forget what you know of MW2. What works in one game will not work in the other, at least not to the same degree of success. Try slowing down your play. As much as you hate snipers, I found that playing Recon forced me into the right mindset (this is the first game I've ever really tried my hand at sniping because it usually bores me).

Once you get to know the maps and slow your head down a bit, jump to one of the support classes. Engineer is fun (thanks to the RPG) and sniper is fun, especially once you get the mortar attack. The Assault class is a total bitch until you unlock the XM8. Thedefault rifle is a dud. If you have the M1A1, use that instead until you get the XM8. Good rifle.
 
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CottonRabbit

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Run-n-gun = win in COD4 and MW2. Run-n-gun = SUICIDE in BC2.

I dunno about that. With map knowledge and a team that isn't getting spawn killed, you can run and gun just fine on maps like Valparaiso. Map knowledge is paramount though, especially for avoiding snipers.
 

fatpat268

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MW2 is an awesome game, one of my favs. BC2 is awesome too.

People don't camp much in MW2, they do in BC2. In MW2, a large percentage of players use a defensive style to get them to their OP killstreaks. It just makes sense to do so. Patrol an area, keep moving around the outskirts of the map, keep your back to the edge of the map, sound whore, drop shot...etc. And it pays off big time when you roll out your Harrier, Pavelow, Chopper Gunner killstreaks. It's a frustrating style to play against, but it'snot camping.

In BC2 there are people who camp exclusively. Snipers will find a good spot and just sit there until they're either discovered or the lines of battle change (new m-comm's on rush open up...etc.). That's camping. In BC2, a guy will camp a stairway in a building and mow down enemies as they keep trying to walk up. This will continue until the building is either destroyed or the lines of battles change. In BC2, players will sit guarding an m-comm station because they know the enemy will come through there.

They're both awesome games, two of my fav shooters in a long time.

That's why you throw a grenade, mortar, or rocket the building before you go in. Complaining about campers around an m-com station just means you have bad tactics. It's a valid defense. The defenders know you want to blow up that spot, so what are they supposed to do, run out in the open to get picked off? No, you defend the point.

The only campers in the game are those who snipe in the bushes. All other forms of camping can be easily defeated with a little bit of explosives.

Camping to me (this applies to MW2) is laying prone in the most random area of the map picking off people for random kills. That's cheap.
 
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Exterous

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Complaining about campers around an m-com station just means you have bad tactics. It's a valid defense.

Yeah - I don't think you can rag on people who are defending (camping) an objective that you are supposed to defend - it's kind of the point of the game style. In fact I get annoyed by people who run off leaving the point un-defended (Or when everyone is on the roof and no one is actually watching the station)
 

pontifex

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That's why you throw a grenade, mortar, or rocket the building before you go in. Complaining about campers around an m-com station just means you have bad tactics. It's a valid defense. The defenders know you want to blow up that spot, so what are they supposed to do, run out in the open to get picked off? No, you defend the point.

The only campers in the game are those who snipe in the bushes. All other forms of camping can be easily defeated with a little bit of explosives.

Camping to me (this applies to MW2) is laying prone in the most random area of the map picking off people for random kills. That's cheap.

if thats the definition of camping in mw2, then it definitely doesn't happen.
 

SR1729

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if thats the definition of camping in mw2, then it definitely doesn't happen.

I don't think you're being honest with yourself. What he described happens CONSTANTLY in MW2. Countless goobers just hiding in random places waiting for an unsuspecting passerby. Hell, that's the most defining characteristic of MW2 if you ask me, primarily caused by the overpowered killstreak system. If you want to win in MW2, you need killstreaks. The surest path to them is to camp. COD4 didn't have this problem because a) there weren't nearly as many places to camp or as much debris to blend into, and b) the killstreaks were far more balanced with the rest of the game. Thus, the ability and motivation to camp in COD4 weren't nearly as substantial as they are in MW2.
 

clamum

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Not to bag on Pontifex (it truly does suck when you spend $50 on a game and don't enjoy it, so I feel your pain), but I suspect this is a big part of the problem since I went through the same thing. Run-n-gun = win in COD4 and MW2. Run-n-gun = SUICIDE in BC2.

BC2 tricks you into feeling like you're playing a fast-paced action game requiring snap decision making and lightning fast reflexes. Thank the stellar sound environment and all of the vehicles at your fingertips for that illusion. In reality, the game rewards slow, careful planning. As soon as I got that through my head, I started to find success.

I think the only difference between you and I Pontifex is that I had fun figuring that out. It just seems to be frustrating you. When you get into a game, forget what you know of MW2. What works in one game will not work in the other, at least not to the same degree of success. Try slowing down your play. As much as you hate snipers, I found that playing Recon forced me into the right mindset (this is the first game I've ever really tried my hand at sniping because it usually bores me).

Once you get to know the maps and slow your head down a bit, jump to one of the support classes. Engineer is fun (thanks to the RPG) and sniper is fun, especially once you get the mortar attack. The Assault class is a total bitch until you unlock the XM8. Thedefault rifle is a dud. If you have the M1A1, use that instead until you get the XM8. Good rifle.
Lot of truth in this. I was getting frustrated cause I'd live for about 30 seconds or less, playing pretty much like I did in Battlefield 2, but I've found in this game I still had to take it slower. At least for my play style and class (Assault). Gotta bring it a notch down, at least until you get the hang of it better. Yeah, you don't scores tons of points, but you get to see what works and what doesn't much easier.

Another HUGE thing is to learn the maps. There's quite a bit going on in these maps, way more than BF2, so that'll take a bit but I've found in any game I get good at, I know the maps extremely well. Just gotta keep practicing and hang back a bit. A support class like Assault or Medic is nice cause you can heal or give ammo to your teammates, while you hang back and help them move up. I can pick guys off with the XM8 pretty well and have a constant source of ammo next to me.

I still think snipers are overpowered but I don't have as much of an issue with them killing me so much anymore. Damnit, now I wanna play! Hahaha.
 

JE78

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I don't think you're being honest with yourself. What he described happens CONSTANTLY in MW2. Countless goobers just hiding in random places waiting for an unsuspecting passerby. Hell, that's the most defining characteristic of MW2 if you ask me, primarily caused by the overpowered killstreak system. If you want to win in MW2, you need killstreaks. The surest path to them is to camp. COD4 didn't have this problem because a) there weren't nearly as many places to camp or as much debris to blend into, and b) the killstreaks were far more balanced with the rest of the game. Thus, the ability and motivation to camp in COD4 weren't nearly as substantial as they are in MW2.

The other issue with MW2 is the maps are much smaller than they were in COD4 and WaW so you have no choice but to camp if you want to do some what well with points and kill streaks. If you don't camp you spawn - run - shoot - get shot. If you stay alive for 30+ seconds its a good spawn.
 

GullyFoyle

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New Battlefield Blog Post: Battlefield Bad Company Q&A

Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Q&A

We have had a lot of questions about Battlefield: Bad Company 2 on all platforms about the issues some have had. Here we will answer some of the more common questions, some will help you get in game, others will give an insight to what we are working on.

This Q&A isn't a definitive list by any means and we are aware of and are working on more than these issues:

Connection issues to EA servers

EA Online has been adding more capacity to handle the high number of player connections to EA servers. This is an ongoing process but we currently have enough capacity to handle all BFBC2 connections.

Manually install PunkBuster on PC

If you are getting an error that Punkbuster hasn't installed correctly for reasons such as Windows admin permissions not allowing Punkbuster to be installed, then go to www.evenbalance.com and download PBSetup.exe. When prompted, point PBSetup at your BFBC2 install directory and then check for updates. A PC restart maybe needed once this is done for Windows to pick up Punkbusters location.

PunkBuster kicks with the following error message : « punkbuster kicked player 'PLAYER NAME' (for 0 minutes) ... RESTRICTION: Service Communication. »

This is a Windows Vista/Windows 7 permissions issue that affects all Punkbuster games. To solve this issue download and run PBSVC from http://www.evenbalance.com/downloads/pbsvc/pbsvc.exe

When clicking on a server to join, nothing happens.

This is fixed in a patch going out on PC today.

Server Browser bugged: All the following browser issues are things the team is currently working on improving.

Too slow This is caused by the current browser system. - A new system is being developed by the BFBC2 PC team to improve the server browser

Displaying inaccurate number of players connected on game servers - This is caused by the difference in server status between when the refresh was initiated and when the results display.

No ping displayed - This is caused by Windows admin privileges. To view ping in the server browser run BFBC2.exe with administrator privileges.

High pings even on local game servers. We're actually showing game latency instead of ping.

This is basically how far behind the client is compared to the server. We try to keep the server a small portion in front of the clients so they in most cases can use replicated data until they get the next ghost update from the server. If they get a lag spike they will start predicting the state when they run out of information, however, the basic idea is to smooth out the experience compared to everything having to be corrected when the predictions are slightly off.

After being disconnected, some people got their stats temporary reset.

The team is investigating this issue, we have no solution at this point. Please report any stat loss here: http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/b...ing-stats.html

When people try to reconnect to their profile, the game asks for the serial number again

This has been fixed on the entitlement side hence no patch is needed. A really small number of people got affected by this.

360 accounts will be “reset” this weekend?

This is a rumour

Some players have had trouble redeeming their VIP codes

This should have cleared up now, the in game store on PS3 for Europe and Asia is coming soon.

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BFBC2 patch pushed to tomorrow at earliest due to last minute crash bug. Change log and info: Source.

*UPDATE* We have had to pull 522174 from release as QA found some last minute crash bugs on two of the multiplayer maps. The team is working on releasing it as soon as possible but can not confirm at this time if it will be today.

As some of you will have seen there is a new patch on EA download servers v522174.
This isn't quite live yet but it will be shortly, also we are working on putting together the changelog for the patch and I'll add that to this post once I have it.

Single Player -
Fixed: Graphical issues on some systems on SP_03 (at start and when displaying background mountains at “Up river&#8221
Fixed: Character voice issue during cut scenes in SP_03b (only affected Spanish)
Fixed: Hang when killed using TOW Launchers in SP_05
Fixed: Graphical issue on some systems on SP_05 (displaying background mountains)
Fixed: Voice volume in cut scenes on SP_06
Fixed: Unexpected dialog at start of SP_08 (only affected Italian)
Fixed: Random crash in SP_09 cut scenes

Multi Player -
Fixed: Server Browser - Joining a password protected server results in a connection timeout
Fixed: Server Browser auto updating server list when reopened causing a timeout issue
Fixed: Server Browser showing “all servers” when re-entering browser on the History or Favorites tab.
Fixed: Password issue during Friend invites
Fixed: Password text field issue on joining a password protected server
Fixed: “Flickering” ship on Arica Harbor
Fixed: Clan tags that use numbers in them displaying a “0” on the Select Spawn Point screen
Fixed: Display issue on long server names
Fixed: Mortar Strike icon not updating (Beta issue)
Fixed: No “Exit Game” menu option appearing at the end of some rounds.
Fixed: Flickering user rank icon (appeared as an animated gif) when user reaches rank 10.
Fixed: Flickering trees and “Red Box” on Laguna Presa
Fixed: User is logged out when failing to create a new soldier
Fixed: Zeus stationary weapon not appearing in stats
Fixed: Zu23 not appearing in stats
Fixed: BMD3 AA not appearing in stats
Fixed: Friend request displaying incorrect Veteran stats
Fixed: End of Round screen displayed incorrect “UAV_Station” – now displays correct localized text.
Fixed: K/D ratio displays in the Front End
Fixed: K/D ratio displays correctly when “comparing”
Change: Server browser now defaults to list via Ping first
Change: News Ticker font support for Spanish, Polish, Russian and Japanese
Change: New message for server full (reported as “I get no message when I try and join a server, it does nothing&#8221
Change: New message displayed for attempting to join a password protected server without providing a password (reported as “I get no message when I try and join a server, it does nothing&#8221
Change: Displays version number on Front End Legal Screen
Change: Display of weapon icon during loading screen

Commence moaning about your favorite fix not being in here...

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PC Fans can grab Bad Company 2 at Amazon for $37 today only! Xbox and PS3 $47: Amazon.com Video Games Deal of the Day

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CARBONFIRE'S Mouse Smoothing and Turret Speed Fix for BFBC2

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ViviTheMage

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I don't think you're being honest with yourself. What he described happens CONSTANTLY in MW2. Countless goobers just hiding in random places waiting for an unsuspecting passerby. Hell, that's the most defining characteristic of MW2 if you ask me, primarily caused by the overpowered killstreak system. If you want to win in MW2, you need killstreaks. The surest path to them is to camp. COD4 didn't have this problem because a) there weren't nearly as many places to camp or as much debris to blend into, and b) the killstreaks were far more balanced with the rest of the game. Thus, the ability and motivation to camp in COD4 weren't nearly as substantial as they are in MW2.

Interesting, because I do really good rushing as an assault...i'll get 5-10 kills, because I spawn before everyone elses slow computers...so i'll already be at the defending line, before people spawn. the best i've done is 16 kills before I died doing this...when my LAN team plays, we don't back off...the 4 of us, 2 medics, 2 assaults, one dies, kill the guy, res your man, etc. We can hold off waves of 6+ people ourselves.


...Granted, I love going Recon, and standing to the side, sniping everyone too.
 

fatpat268

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The other issue with MW2 is the maps are much smaller than they were in COD4 and WaW so you have no choice but to camp if you want to do some what well with points and kill streaks. If you don't camp you spawn - run - shoot - get shot. If you stay alive for 30+ seconds its a good spawn.

I disagree. If you're constantly camping, you're missing out on a lot in MW2.

But that's just me. Everyone has different playstyles.
 

Demo24

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Hmm, patch looks promising. I wonder when us steam guys will get it tomorrow(if it releases).


Question on the mouse fix, would that help with the mini guns on the blackhawk? I always seem to be moving all over the desk to try and keep it pointed where I need it whilst flying around.
 

CrackRabbit

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I think I am finally getting the hang of things, hit rank 10 last night and was dominating for a couple of rounds with the Saiga/+shotgun perk.
Run in, Unload Saiga on unsuspecting people, throw grenade, run out, reload, repeat.
 

paperfist

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Finally have over a 1 K/D ratio. I die so much cus I knife a lot.


I actually pulled off a 1.83 K/D in a game last night which is pretty awesome coming from an avg .39 ratio I have overall

What cracks me up with knife guys (not saying you ) is when you actually catch them coming at you instead of doing you in the back they continue to try and kill you with a knife. lol hello I have an automatic weapon and you're point blank!
 

CrackRabbit

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I actually pulled off a 1.83 K/D in a game last night which is pretty awesome coming from an avg .39 ratio I have overall

What cracks me up with knife guys (not saying you ) is when you actually catch them coming at you instead of doing you in the back they continue to try and kill you with a knife. lol hello I have an automatic weapon and you're point blank!

You wouldn't believe how often that works, especially if you are a engineer. SMGs suck for damage output.
 

TheJTrain

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Things I miss the most from BF2142:
- Commo rose - 'cause I miss saying "thanks" when a Medic revives my bullet-riddled corpse
- An "English-only for everything, please, I don't speak Russian" checkbox that worked
- A "rotate the minimap around my icon"/"rotate my icon within a static minimap" checkbox; I prefer the latter (with a rotating minimap, saying "North" to a teammate means very little), BC2 does the former
- Kit selections being saved between logins (took 'em a patch to get it right then, too)
- Practice rounds vs. bots to learn the maps w/out getting actual human teammates mad at my directional floundering - I'm still having more fun in Port Valdez 'cause I know it than in the others that I don't know (especially that jungle/river one, it's brutal if you're lost)
- Titan mode - think about it: it was Conquest + Rush all in one map!

New things that weren't in BF2142 that I like:
- Destruction 2.0
- The moving-lines-of-battle of Rush mode
- The invitation to teamwork that *is* the tracer dart pistol
- More immersive sounds (e.g., your hearing goes out if you're too close to an explosion)
 

JE78

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I disagree. If you're constantly camping, you're missing out on a lot in MW2.

But that's just me. Everyone has different playstyles.

I agree, that's not how I play but thats how i've seen people play. I"ve came around a corner and had guy tucked away in a wall and shoot me.
 
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