The AT World of Warcraft Thread (Where do you play) and general BS

[techgamer]

what sort of +healing should I have for a ZA pug?

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: techgamer
what sort of +healing should I have for a ZA pug?

1500 ish

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Anubis
1500 ish

Which is very easy to attain with the PMC set by the way. My priest has 1500 healing and I still use T1 bracers lol.

 

[techgamer]

OMG I hate the Heroic 'saved' to instance bs. It is dumb when your grp leaves halfway through an instance then you cant finish it b/c other grps want a fresh run

 

[soccerballtux]

Bah I'm sick of WoW; done forever I think. Played my heart out on my Warlock and got some great gear; but even with 13kHP I would go down like nobody's business.

If you spec sl/sl with him he's fine but I preferred affliction myself...you just can't arena with that though.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Bah I'm sick of WoW; done forever I think. Played my heart out on my Warlock and got some great gear; but even with 13kHP I would go down like nobody's business.

If you spec sl/sl with him he's fine but I preferred affliction myself...you just can't arena with that though.

As a squishy, you definitely need resilience for sure these days. It takes a rogue good effort to kill me now and if he doesn't CoS at the right time, he's done. I've been on the other side as a rogue... it can be frustrating depending on how much res your target has. Not so bad for locks. I was affliction but now I'm SL/SL and with pve gear I do top 2 dmg in raids (almost as much as my combat sword rogue who's always #1 in dmg - using another rogue as a gauge). Try SL/SL in pve and you'll see it's almost as good as straight affliction. You lose Unstable Affliction but you do gain the soul link +dmg. Master demo gives you +10% dmg with your succy out too.

And you got a good spec for pvp anyway.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: techgamer
OMG I hate the Heroic 'saved' to instance bs. It is dumb when your grp leaves halfway through an instance then you cant finish it b/c other grps want a fresh run

if you are gonna run heroics and dont want it to fail invite me i can always use badges

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: DarkRipper
Hold your energy to kick. Just auto attack and keep up slice and dice with a sinister strike/backstab/etc tossed in once in a while to get combos for your next S&D, while waiting for the heal to start, so you'll have energy to kick it. The warrior tank should be ready to shield bash as well.

CoT definitely helps.

Frankly, this is why I think a Shaman tends to do better at interruption than a rogue. You may drop a shaman's shock DPS a little bit forcing him to do ES only (ES-FS rotation is 290 dps where ES is 220) but it really hurts a rogue's DPS to force him to kick in such a small window. I haven't done Karathress, but I have interrupted the Mechas in Mechanar and the window is about 1.5 seconds or so to interrupt Charged Fist. I think I only missed one the entire time and literally the only way to do it is to only attack when you know it's not coming. You also have to keep around 50 energy at all times. Since my rogue is mutilate, he would just wait for the kick, kick and then use mutilate since I knew he wouldn't be able to do it again for the 6 seconds or whatever it is.

Although about the shaman thing... I don't know how often she casts. Rogues have the best interrupt:cooldown ratio of 5:10, warriors are 4:10, Shamans are 2:6 and tied with mages at 8:24.

Originally posted by: lupi
Not unless they opened up 6 on 2 duels where the loser collapses on the ground with 0 health. They were only a couple feet from the ratchet bank and not a guard seen. From the days when approaching TM would pop 100 deathguards, that was pretty freaky.

That's weird, I could've sworn that there's a guard in front of the bank and one that patrols near the flight master (which east of the bank). It's possible that they ignored the guard because I think the guards in Ratchet are 57 or something like that. The guards in Outlands are 70 elites so pissing them off isn't as nice .

EDIT:

Originally posted by: abaez
For priests there is a nice thread on the new spirit changes as well as the new formula for spirit and regen.

Did they actually find the formula? Last I was reading they were just arguing over which one was correct. I do remember that they said if you have less than 300 int you will lose regen .

EDIT 2:

I have over 300 though so it's not bad .

There's a spreadsheet floating around on the Priest forums where you put in your unbuffed stats, what buffs you would receive during a raid, and what healing/regen talents you have. It will show you your current in game mana regen unbuffed and buffed, as well as what it will be in 2.4.

My numbers are like this:

Current unbuffed mp5, 450/215
Raid buffed mp5, 562/313

2.4 Unbuffed mp5, 580/275
2.4 buffed, 999/385

So basically, it's a HUGE buff to Priests that are MH/BT geared. If I can find that spreadsheet I'll post the 100% accurate numbers, but I think deleted it. What happens at those gear levels is that 1 spirit starts to become better then 1mp5 in ALL circumstances which is kind of lame for me because that forces me to regem out of all my +healing/mp5 gems. Oh well, I guess it's worth it for the huge buff. From I can tell it's going to be needed with the first few bosses in Sunwell. By the time it comes out my guild will have been farming Illidan for about 4 months, so hopefully we'll have the gear to plow through the place.

 

[lupi]

Had my first pvp while leveling fun last nite. I had seen a couple alliance peeps in stonealton and ashenvalle but generally no one bothered another.

Hillsbrad seems to be a different story. While playing my mid 20 lock a 35 rogue jumps me with my mana and health fairly low and doing a bunch of pulls in the farming area. He managed to kill me but was down to <200 health. So I popped my stone and finished him off. Being the typical alliance peep he rezzed up and tried to come after me again once I was again fighting the npc mobs. Unlucky for him during the time of our first fight and this one my SS timer came up so I was able to restone myself. Again he manages to kill me with almost no health left himself at which point I pop and kill him. Didn't see him return after that point.

About as funny was the 40 something pally killing me just north of TM and then trying to finish the quest involving syndicates just west of the horde AV entrance. Note to wannabe gankers, don't gank and then attempt to quest next to a BG entrance (particularly on that BGs weekend), there just may be a few hi level types hanging around with nothing better to do.


I also can say the new leveling iis nice. In an are like TM where you can do several, turn them in a do some more, you rqpidly drop the bubbles. Starting the day as a 23 and finished just under 29. Only bad part was I never bothered to fly to a city for training and those spell training levels could probably have helped on my pvp encounters.

 

[Anubis]

your brave going to hillsbrad at 23, and yes that place is always a warzone, aliance on my server regulary take it over and kill the flightmaster

 

[rh71]

They need more of those in Outland where it's so close and open to group raid another area.

 

[IT Professional Ant]

WOW might be either the lamest thing for people to turn into zombies in computer chairs or pure genius for people wanting to rape the masses for money every month..

I used to play then one day.. I thought to myself.. wth am I doing.. I could have done soo much instead of playing a game with no reward..

I gave my 60's away right before the expansion got a better job..

I read more books now have a much better social life..

game but not mindless zombie mmorpg games anymore.. wow in many ways is a huge exercise in human repedity and stupidity.. of course if you are all caught up in your nazi guilds raid schedule you sure are not going to see it..

Knowledge is power not a level 70 Orc warrior you wasted 4 years of your life on..

I will say something I told somebody before I left game and gave my account away..

her "I dont know I just do not have a life.. I need to leave this game too.. I have no friends I never do anything.. I have no life.. I play wow and get stoned thats my free time.. "

me "well don't talk about it be about it.. I am done being a blizzard cronie.. I am keeping my 15 bux a month.. I am going to buy a kitten with the money and go outside for a change daily.."

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Crusty
Current unbuffed mp5, 450/215
Raid buffed mp5, 562/313

2.4 Unbuffed mp5, 580/275
2.4 buffed, 999/385

Holy jesus... you really don't even need water with that amount of mp5 OOC! That'll make healing rotations insanely efficient.

Originally posted by: Crusty
So basically, it's a HUGE buff to Priests that are MH/BT geared. If I can find that spreadsheet I'll post the 100% accurate numbers, but I think deleted it. What happens at those gear levels is that 1 spirit starts to become better then 1mp5 in ALL circumstances which is kind of lame for me because that forces me to regem out of all my +healing/mp5 gems. Oh well, I guess it's worth it for the huge buff. From I can tell it's going to be needed with the first few bosses in Sunwell. By the time it comes out my guild will have been farming Illidan for about 4 months, so hopefully we'll have the gear to plow through the place.

Ahh sounds like a good thing that I've been using +heal/+spirit gems... well actually they're the purified shadow pearls that my shammy lovingly makes for me .

Originally posted by: lupi
About as funny was the 40 something pally killing me just north of TM and then trying to finish the quest involving syndicates just west of the horde AV entrance. Note to wannabe gankers, don't gank and then attempt to quest next to a BG entrance (particularly on that BGs weekend), there just may be a few hi level types hanging around with nothing better to do.

That's one of the reasons why I don't kill people when I'm out in the world for a purpose. It's quite possible that person X would've left you alone, but now you've pissed person X off and it's quite possible that they may mention you in whatever chat and now bored person Y and your_faction hater person Z now want to kill you too. Better left alone!

EDIT:

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
WOW might be either the lamest thing for people to turn into zombies in computer chairs or pure genius for people wanting to rape the masses for money every month..

I used to play then one day.. I thought to myself.. wth am I doing.. I could have done soo much instead of playing a game with no reward..

I gave my 60's away right before the expansion got a better job..

I read more books now have a much better social life..

game but not mindless zombie mmorpg games anymore.. wow in many ways is a huge exercise in human repedity and stupidity.. of course if you are all caught up in your nazi guilds raid schedule you sure are not going to see it..

Knowledge is power not a level 70 Orc warrior you wasted 4 years of your life on..

I will say something I told somebody before I left game and gave my account away..

her "I dont know I just do not have a life.. I need to leave this game too.. I have no friends I never do anything.. I have no life.. I play wow and get stoned thats my free time.. "

me "well don't talk about it be about it.. I am done being a blizzard cronie.. I am keeping my 15 bux a month.. I am going to buy a kitten with the money and go outside for a change daily.."

See, there's a couple problems here. First off, just because you have no social life when playing World of Warcraft does not mean that everyone has no social life when playing World of Warcraft. In fact, I go out at least every Friday, if not more than just once a week, and hang out with one of my friends. Not to mention seeing a movie in the theater on Friday if something good comes out!

As a note though... it's actually much cheaper for me to just play WoW for a month than do all of the above. Going out on the weekend with friends costs at least $25 and a movie will cost near $10 these days!

If you have no self-control then that's fine... I think you needed to quit anyway, but personally, I don't have a problem stopping when I want to and I still lead a decent social life.

Oh and the stoner thing explains it all .

EDIT 2:

Did everyone else hear about that you can buy PVP gear with PVE badges and tokens in 2.4? You can get Season 1 and Season 2 PVP gear as well as the Vindicator's items where the Vindicator's items cost badges.

I think it might help some PVE'rs also get into doing PVP and also possibly help people get more stamina gear if they need it as instead of wasting a T4 or T5/T6 token, you can just give it to someone to get a piece of PVP gear.

 

[Anubis]

yea you can use T4 tokens for S1 gear and T5 tokens for S2, and i think T6 for S3 but that would just be stupid to do because T6 is godly

however farming SS/TK for tokens for PVP gear makes me LOL

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Anubis
yea you can use T4 tokens for S1 gear and T5 tokens for S2, and i think T6 for S3 but that would just be stupid to do because T6 is godly

however farming SS/TK for tokens for PVP gear makes me LOL

S3 gear is not available for tokens right now.

 

[IT Professional Ant]

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
WOW might be either the lamest thing for people to turn into zombies in computer chairs or pure genius for people wanting to rape the masses for money every month..

I used to play then one day.. I thought to myself.. wth am I doing.. I could have done soo much instead of playing a game with no reward..

I gave my 60's away right before the expansion got a better job..

I read more books now have a much better social life..

game but not mindless zombie mmorpg games anymore.. wow in many ways is a huge exercise in human repedity and stupidity.. of course if you are all caught up in your nazi guilds raid schedule you sure are not going to see it..

Knowledge is power not a level 70 Orc warrior you wasted 4 years of your life on..

I will say something I told somebody before I left game and gave my account away..

her "I dont know I just do not have a life.. I need to leave this game too.. I have no friends I never do anything.. I have no life.. I play wow and get stoned thats my free time.. "

me "well don't talk about it be about it.. I am done being a blizzard cronie.. I am keeping my 15 bux a month.. I am going to buy a kitten with the money and go outside for a change daily.."

See, there's a couple problems here. First off, just because you have no social life when playing World of Warcraft does not mean that everyone has no social life when playing World of Warcraft. In fact, I go out at least every Friday, if not more than just once a week, and hang out with one of my friends. Not to mention seeing a movie in the theater on Friday if something good comes out!

As a note though... it's actually much cheaper for me to just play WoW for a month than do all of the above. Going out on the weekend with friends costs at least $25 and a movie will cost near $10 these days!

If you have no self-control then that's fine... I think you needed to quit anyway, but personally, I don't have a problem stopping when I want to and I still lead a decent social life.

Oh and the stoner thing explains it all .

...

You act like you speak for the masses.. sorry ya don't.. the moral majority live in thier WOW on a daily basis and are zombies for the game.. go check xfire.. the numbers are staggeringly sick.. 3,575,151.. todays minutes played.. its 10am in the midwest on a monday that means that number is going to be about 3 times higher before midnight tonight.. and that is not counting the people that are not using xfire..

You don't know me don't pretend to.. not offended just being str8 with you.. I was in very demanding raid guilds with mandatory attendance that was insane.. and I didn't need to do anything.. I woke up one day from being caught up in something pointless.. I have had girls I date and still do.. I always will comes with a good mouthpiece so I had a social life I just wanted more out of it.. and to get out more instead of wow being in the equation period..

If you read well you would notice I was talking to somebody and her quote is first not mine if you are implying im a stoner.. I don't get high..

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and besides WOW has bad animations.. bad armor that looks incredibly corny and cartoony and worse corny unimaginative characters that you pilot to get gear you cannot customize to make unique in appearance whatsover.. when you are so in caught up in the mindset that goes along with the whole game of wow.. as you are.. you do not see these things..

when you step out of blizzards little world for the masses.. not your own.. you will think to yourself.. I spent any time doing this? it is a poor lookin game for 15 yr olds full of angst that want to fight over gear that looks corny for thier litttle goofy gnome..

Also it is a sad day when anybody votes WOW the game of the year with system requirements such as this.. Tell me what is so groundbreaking? the gameplay.. No.. the graphics.. No..

PC System Requirements
OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 4) or Windows XP (Service Pack 2)
Processor: Intel Pentium3 800MHz or AMD Athlon 800MHz
Memory:
Minimum: 512 MB RAM
Recommended: 1GB RAM
Video:

Minimum: 32MB 3D graphics processor with Hardware Transform and Lighting, such as an NVIDIA GeForce 2 class card or above

Recommended: 64MB VRAM 3D graphics processor with Vertex and Pixel Shader capability, such as an NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 class card or above
Sound: DirectX-compatible sound card


Discussion over..

 

[techgamer]

IT Prof... No one cares bro... sorry you have low-self esteem and cant control your habits. Its called moderation. If you have to make changes in your life, thats your deal. I dont want to read about your emotional problems...peace

 

[DarkRipper]

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
WOW might be either the lamest thing for people to turn into zombies in computer chairs or pure genius for people wanting to rape the masses for money every month..
edit, snip out lots of hate filled rhetoric

Why not take your hate filled rant to another thread, and let us discuss our game in peace?
Given your vehemence, it appears that it is you that has the problem, not we.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
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ill sum this all up

I?m a big fucking loser who has no self control and no self esteem, who feels he has to put others down because of the game they enjoy playing


Now please GTFO of my thread no one cares about the diarrhea coming out of your mouth

 

[IT Professional Ant]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
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ill sum this all up

I?m a big fucking loser who has no self control and no self esteem, who feels he has to put others down because of the game they enjoy playing


Now please GTFO of my thread no one cares about the diarrhea coming out of your mouth

who flamed anybody?

me? no.. I am entitled to think the game sucks all I want..

you can keep your presumptions and insulting nature to yourself you 3..

you are looking about 15 yrs old right now..



hate? that would mean I cared.. I don't I am peforming my right on the forum to express my intelligent well thought out opinion as I usually do.. not cussing at somebody ignorantly..

 

[abaez]

Great, now leave the thread.

 

[techgamer]

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
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/ignore IT /Ban ? that would be great thanks.

 

[DarkRipper]

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
as I usually do

Uh... you signed up for the forums yesterday. There is no "usually" for you.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
You act like you speak for the masses.. sorry ya don't..

*Points at this quote and points at your post*

Need I say more?

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
the moral majority live in thier WOW on a daily basis and are zombies for the game.. go check xfire.. the numbers are staggeringly sick.. 3,575,151.. todays minutes played.. its 10am in the midwest on a monday that means that number is going to be about 3 times higher before midnight tonight.. and that is not counting the people that are not using xfire..

There are around 2 million WoW accounts in the USA. Let's cut that in third shall we (to account for xfire users, etc). Even with that, that's only 5 minutes of playtime per account.

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
You don't know me don't pretend to.. not offended just being str8 with you.. I was in very demanding raid guilds with mandatory attendance that was insane

If you don't like your guild's raiding schedule then join a guild with an easier schedule. Perhaps you were simply trying to be a hardcore raider when you're really not one. I used to raid fairly often as well and I simply got bored of it and quit WoW for a bit. I'm back and I rarely raid at all anymore. It's actually a lot nicer I think .

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
If you read well you would notice I was talking to somebody and her quote is first not mine if you are implying im a stoner.. I don't get high..

note the



and the

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
and besides WOW has bad animations.. bad armor that looks incredibly corny and cartoony and worse corny unimaginative characters that you pilot to get gear you cannot customize to make unique in appearance whatsover.. when you are so in caught up in the mindset that goes along with the whole game of wow.. as you are.. you do not see these things..

I "pilot" a fat space cow as one of my alts, I think I can tell that the models aren't the best in the world. It sounds like you want more options in the game you play, which is fine, but I really don't care.

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
litttle goofy gnome..

Hey, I like my little goofy gnomes. I wish I could give them a last name so I could call 'em, "Sprigglesprocket." That's a cool gnome surname.

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
Also it is a sad day when anybody votes WOW the game of the year with system requirements such as this.. Tell me what is so groundbreaking? the gameplay.. No.. the graphics.. No..

I play WoW on a gaming machine that I would say is probably a lot better than yours (Q6600, 8800GTX, 4GB RAM, etc) and I'd preferably not play it on worse. Not to mention, no one in their right mind would choose to play WoW on such a shitty setup... maybe if they were running in 800x600 . Shattrath would be worse than a slideshow... it'd be a fuckin' ancient painting!

P.S. Let's keep going on this, I enjoy a good debate/argument!

 

[techgamer]

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
litttle goofy gnome..

Hey, I like my little goofy gnomes. I wish I could give them a last name so I could call 'em, "Sprigglesprocket." That's a cool gnome surname.

I do wish we could make last names. I wish they would add this feature.