This piece puts the "smoking gun" in the timeline with the other emails:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2...il_reveals_that_obama_white_house_agreed.html
TLDR: Yet again, it's absolutely nothing.
Again I feel like I should reiterate my absolute confusion as to why conservatives are so desperate for this to be a scandal.
Yet you've done nothing to prove him wrong. Indeed, your actions support his assessment. I've twice today given you factual information that you've ignored, presumably because it refutes the spin you've embraced. Don't blame him for your actions.Wow, you convinced me of the error of my ways!
Nice, that would have saved me looking up the original CIA emails. Of course, as your link notes, that didn't take much effort. If Judicial Watch had been sincerely interested in the truth, it would have taken them an extra two minutes to match Rhodes' email against mail released previously. I sense that truth isn't really their agenda, however.This piece puts the "smoking gun" in the timeline with the other emails:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2...il_reveals_that_obama_white_house_agreed.html
TLDR: Yet again, it's absolutely nothing.
Again I feel like I should reiterate my absolute confusion as to why conservatives are so desperate for this to be a scandal.
I hear you, I really do. Supplying arms through various means has been done all through my lifetime and I'm certain it was going on before that. That's what precipitated the problem. It's not the problem.Honestly I'm not convinced that Hilary's head should roll except for just basic dishonesty - something that applies to virtually all our politicians. I don't like that State turned down requests for proper security - and I really, really don't like that after the guy was dead they then claimed to offered in private what they turned down on record - but it's possible this was an honest screw-up or, assuming the gun running allegations are true, a calculated risk that bit them hard.
A WH official urged amenable political spin from, of all people, the WH press secretary? That's your smoking gun?
I pretty much agree, I just don't think it's completely a leftie problem. Who really is held accountable in our government? W went around telling us that the British have learned that Saddam had tried to purchase yellow cake uranium from Niger when we knew that story was a French operative's forgery before the British even brought it to us - not to mention Saddam already had hundreds of tons of yellow cake uranium. No one was held responsible. State sent Valerie Plame's freakin' husband, a bureaucrat with zero experience or expertise, and no one was held responsible. It's how our government operates, sadly.I hear you, I really do. Supplying arms through various means has been done all through my lifetime and I'm certain it was going on before that. That's what precipitated the problem. It's not the problem.
Here's my issue in a nutshell. Nobody and I mean nobody is responsible for anything in this administration. That's it, right there.
It's a leftie thing. Judge people on their intentions instead of the outcome. And of course our leftie friends see no problem with it because they think exactly the same. Like minded people tend to give a lot of allowances for like minded people. But in this case we lost by all accounts, not just three very brave individuals, we lost a very valuable, highly respected, very intelligent man, that being Chris Stevens. And what did we get? Lie after lie after lie choreographed and spread throughout the administration. Obama himself was still telling the lie weeks after it had become known that it was in fact not true.
They could have told a believable lie (by leaving out the gun running - justifying to themselves that it was for national security, blah, blah) in the beginning and atoned for their mistakes and as I said earlier, it would all have gone away. Many would have known, many would have suspected but a majority would have realized that we're all human, we make mistakes, this was a big one, but the administration is truly sorry and has vowed not to repeat it. Done, wrapped up, back to business as usual.
But no. Their ego's would not allow for that. Nobody was held accountable. Obama had told the nation numerous times about his glorious victory over al Qaeda. He was weeks away from an election. Can't have anything disparaging coming out about him. Hillary was next for ascension to the throne and we couldn't have her reputation tarnished because fortunately, thus far, every illegal venture and despicable behavior by her had succumbed to the Teflon her stature had provided her.
So, for purely political reasons, the worst of reasons, the spin machine was cranked up for the latest version of the current truth. And that truth was deemed to be so airtight, that it could not and must not be altered. That truth needed to be protected such that documentation releases were sandbagged and the bullshit just goes on and on.
Our political system is a sickening cesspool of partisanship. It will not change until we decide to change it. Right now one faction of the country would like to see someone answer for what happened in Benghazi and the other wants to protect their partisan interests even if it involved the deaths of some of our people and arming people who are our enemies.
So, another opportunity slips by. No surprise. Who is electable in our nation these days to the highest office in the land? People who skirt the law, make zero contributions to the nation. People who lie and cheat and steal and say things that are believable to so many useful idiots. People who have accomplished things, who have run things, who don't need the job in the quest for more power, who don't sugarcoat our situation are demonized and made out to be unworthy.
This absolutely is not going to end well. Benghazi will be but one page of a long book. And it doesn't have to be this way.
Notice Obama's COMPLETE lack of interest in actually getting the terrorists who actually committed the attack as well. Perhaps that too can tell you something.Notice the rabid fascination with hanging all of this on Obama and the COMPLETE lack of interest in actually getting the terrorists who actually committed the attack...... that alone tells me all I need to know about these smear boys.
Notice the rabid fascination with hanging all of this on Obama and the COMPLETE lack of interest in actually getting the terrorists who actually committed the attack...... that alone tells me all I need to know about these smear boys.
Notice the rabid fascination with hanging all of this on Obama and the COMPLETE lack of interest in actually getting the terrorists who actually committed the attack...... that alone tells me all I need to know about these smear boys.
No, we've complained about that too. Obama only seems interested in drone striking Americans at the moment.
No, we've complained about that too. Obama only seems interested in drone striking Americans at the moment.
*cough* wimpout.
You should get that cough checked out. You've got Obamacare, right?
No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Derp.
^ lol gym owner.
This piece puts the "smoking gun" in the timeline with the other emails:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2...il_reveals_that_obama_white_house_agreed.html
TLDR: Yet again, it's absolutely nothing.
Again I feel like I should reiterate my absolute confusion as to why conservatives are so desperate for this to be a scandal.
Everything one needs to know about the seriousness of the Benghazi cover up is evident in the degree of zeal which the faithful followers of the Obama regime devote to defending their messiah. If this was a nothing story, they would be ignoring it. They are not doing that. They are clawing tooth and nail in fear that something might actually "stick" in this particular debacle.
We have a regime in place that puts party before the nation to a degree that I can't recall in my lifetime. There is no longer anyone willing to fall on the sword because they made a huge blunder. Our nation is being governed by the "everyone is a winner" crowd and they've got the trophies to prove it. They are not just blameless, they are beyond making mistakes.
Our country was running arms from Libya to Syria. Arms that were ending up in the hands of our enemies. It was supposed to be a secret. It resulted in the death of four Americans including a highly respected Ambassador. The whole thing could have been spun several ways that would have minimized the culpability of the regime in conjunction with a sacrificial lamb taking the fall. The conservative press and the nation as a whole would have begrudgingly accepted this.
But their arrogance would not allow for this. Nobody from the elite running the nation should have to admit any guilt. Why should they, they are all winners. So they doubled down with the lies and the deceit. As time goes on and more documentation is released the heap of shit is getting higher and higher and it's getting more difficult to crawl out from under without getting some on them.
The mid-term election is a lost cause. The presidential election in 2016 is the big one. The day Hillary announces she will not run for the presidency is when this will break loose. Her head is the head that should have rolled. That did not happen and will not happen for obvious reasons that are purely political. When she announces she will not be running, a sacrificial lamb will be led to slaughter so as to not sully the Clinton name any further.
What a state our nation is in. Politics and party are more important than anything else and to a degree I don't recall in my lifetime. There is no price too great to pay in the quest to achieve absolute long-lasting power. Illegal arms operation and dead Americans certainly are not enough.
To my libertarian/conservative friends: Don't bother arguing Benghazi with the leftists. There is no evidence, no argument, no smoking gun that will divert them from their chosen path, which is to defend this regime to the bitter end. Just be happy to know that there are many in the nation that have not let it rest and will not let it rest.
Notice the rabid fascination with hanging all of this on Obama and the COMPLETE lack of interest in actually getting the terrorists who actually committed the attack...... that alone tells me all I need to know about these smear boys.
That "complete lack of interest" is wholly on the Obama admin.
Fern
That's not true, how do you know what they are doing to catch the folks responsible.
Where are you all this morning?http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/04/29/benghazi-emails-point-at-white-house/8471737/
Well, you sure broke the case, Sherlock.
http://issa.house.gov/contact/contact-me/
You should send this to GTA Issa. He needs all the help he can get, that is if he's not too busy stealing cars and committing arson.
Allegedly.
Bill O'Reilly is leading this story tonight.