The Benghazi Story goes critical

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himkhan

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Notice the rabid fascination with hanging all of this on Obama and the COMPLETE lack of interest in actually getting the terrorists who actually committed the attack...... that alone tells me all I need to know about these smear boys.

EOT
 

sportage

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Feb 1, 2008
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I tell you republicans what.
You take Benghazi to the bank and democrats, take fair wage to the bank.
And let's just see which earns the American interest come November,
 

RampantAndroid

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I tell you republicans what.
You take Benghazi to the bank and democrats, take fair wage to the bank.
And let's just see which earns the American interest come November,

You know, this fair wage stuff is great talk, but what happens when you raise minimum wage? Cost of items rises as well...it's great talk to say we need an american made iphone and all, but are we really willing to see the cost of an american made iphone (or any cell phone, console, PC, laptop and so forth. Hell, even clothing.)
 

ivwshane

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You know, this fair wage stuff is great talk, but what happens when you raise minimum wage? Cost of items rises as well...it's great talk to say we need an american made iphone and all, but are we really willing to see the cost of an american made iphone (or any cell phone, console, PC, laptop and so forth. Hell, even clothing.)

More horse shit talking points with zero basis in reality.
 

Matt1970

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Mar 19, 2007
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Right, because magical fairies fly out of the sky and pay the added cost when you raise minimum wage.
 

Matt1970

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What's it like to be so utterly fucking clueless?

http://truth-out.org/news/item/14050-minimum-wage-hikes-do-not-cause-inflation

Be sure to read the studies linked in the article, or don't, I have no doubt your mind wont change when new facts are presented to it anyway.

I wouldn't know. I am not the one linking to articles that are trying to reinvent the wheel. It's beyond simple but for some reason it needs explaining. If you raise the min wage, either those paying the wages eat the costs out of the goodness of their hearts or they raise their prices. Which do you think is more likely to happen?
 

ivwshane

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I wouldn't know. I am not the one linking to articles that are trying to reinvent the wheel. It's beyond simple but for some reason it needs explaining. If you raise the min wage, either those paying the wages eat the costs out of the goodness of their hearts or they raise their prices. Which do you think is more likely to happen?

Lol! I knew you didn't have a rebuttal. Sorry, your gut doesn't trump real world data.

Go put a mint in your ass your breath smells!
 

Jhhnn

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I wouldn't know. I am not the one linking to articles that are trying to reinvent the wheel. It's beyond simple but for some reason it needs explaining. If you raise the min wage, either those paying the wages eat the costs out of the goodness of their hearts or they raise their prices. Which do you think is more likely to happen?

We're barely avoiding deflation from lack of demand & you somehow manage to rave about inflationary wage increases?

When the have-nots become have-littles, and when have-littles become have-somethings, demand goes up. When demand goes up, more people are employed.

When business piles cash in the bank but nobody borrows it, demand goes down. Liquidity disappears. When billionaires extract cash from commerce & put it into investment, demand goes down for lack of liquidity. It's self reinforcing.

This isn't your ordinary post-war recession, at all. The notion that we can have a demand-less recovery is absurd, at least for working people. They're doin' great at the tippy-top, however. Never better, really. It's just the truth.

Which is why Righties would rather dwell on fantasies like Benghazi. It's called denial. It's all propaganda induced.
 

HomerJS

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Can anyone explain to me why what the administration said was the cause of the ambassadors death immediately after while facts were still coming vs the same ambassador refused extra security offered to him by military which could have saved his life???
 

Orignal Earl

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I wouldn't know. I am not the one linking to articles that are trying to reinvent the wheel. It's beyond simple but for some reason it needs explaining. If you raise the min wage, either those paying the wages eat the costs out of the goodness of their hearts or they raise their prices. Which do you think is more likely to happen?

There has been several min wage raises over the last decade where I live. Big Macs still cost the same though.
I haven't noticed any fairies either, what else could explain this?
 

Matt1970

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Lol! I knew you didn't have a rebuttal. Sorry, your gut doesn't trump real world data.

Go put a mint in your ass your breath smells!

I was about to say it isn't rocket science, but apparently it is to some. Why don't find a "real word data" link that will show me raising my rent won't cost me any more money.
 

ivwshane

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I was about to say it isn't rocket science, but apparently it is to some. Why don't find a "real word data" link that will show me raising my rent won't cost me any more money.

I can always tell when you aren't taking your meds, you say the stupidest shit and make the dumbest arguements!

The article I linked to had, multiple (that means more than one), source of data to pull from. Feel free to post counter studies or reasons why those studies are wrong.

At the very least if you are going to continue talking out of your ass, at least take a mint suppository Your shit smell like BS!
 

Matt1970

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Ah, so your paying for our min wage raises. Thank ya
But seriously, I haven't noticed any real difference in prices on anything outside of the normal

I don't remember what it was 10 years ago for the Big Mac value meal but it was a lot cheaper than the $6.79 it is now.
 

Matt1970

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I can always tell when you aren't taking your meds, you say the stupidest shit and make the dumbest arguements!

The article I linked to had, multiple (that means more than one), source of data to pull from. Feel free to post counter studies or reasons why those studies are wrong.

At the very least if you are going to continue talking out of your ass, at least take a mint suppository Your shit smell like BS!

Repeating the same lame ass joke (memory of a goldfish) and linking to articles that are arguing that water isn't wet. Hey, seeing as how raising minimum wages doesn't cause inflation or increase costs to businesses, maybe cutting wages won't increase profits like you lefties like to cry they do all the time.
 

ivwshane

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Repeating the same lame ass joke (memory of a goldfish) and linking to articles that are arguing that water isn't wet. Hey, seeing as how raising minimum wages doesn't cause inflation or increase costs to businesses, maybe cutting wages won't increase profits like you lefties like to cry they do all the time.

Lo! At least the troll incorruptible has the decency to hide and not show his face after he's been proven wrong and has nothing to counter with. You on the other hand must enjoy being the butt of the joke as you keep coming back for more!

Lol! Quick think of a straw man or go to your stand by...deflect! Deflect!
 

Jaskalas

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Jun 23, 2004
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Can anyone explain to me why what the administration said was the cause of the ambassadors death immediately after while facts were still coming vs the same ambassador refused extra security offered to him by military which could have saved his life???

A perfect demonstration that you have no idea what Benghazi is.

Illegal arms smuggling to Syrian terrorists aside, we suffered a terrorist attack and our people died. The White House then fearing their re-election narrative of defeating terrorists, instead of calling it what it was decided to blame Americans for the "protest".

Yes, this President's administration blames YOU, me, and everyone else for our free speech, for our youtube videos, for making people angry. For making them "protest" and for them killing Americans in Benghazi. Weeks later, after these lies became clear and repugnant, the President still spoke to the UN of the "video". Of America's fault.

All so they could save face and not be embarrassed. What are they covering up? Pretty much nothing. But they're doing it. They are corrupt and lying and breaking the law and the media is complicit in assisting, as demonstrated by that second Presidential debate.

This is conspiracy of corruption rooted down to nothing more than petty partisan politics. Where the White House fabricates a hateful lie against the American people, stood by that lie, and the media stood with them. The video maker was even arrested. They never came clean and had to be dragged against their will to divulge any information. Just this week we finally learn that the White House was directly involved in orchestrating this lie.

Perhaps if this was not the most secretive white house in history, then none of their covering, lying, and scheming would have felt necessary. Maybe then they would have been honest and not try to pawn the terrorist attack off as a protest caused by Americans.
 
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Matt1970

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Lo! At least the troll incorruptible has the decency to hide and not show his face after he's been proven wrong and has nothing to counter with. You on the other hand must enjoy being the butt of the joke as you keep coming back for more!

Lol! Quick think of a straw man or go to your stand by...deflect! Deflect!

I have absolutely no reason to deflect. I think it's quite amusing seeing as how everyone on the planet already knows raising min wage increases inflation to some degree, that is everyone except your gullible ass.
 

Orignal Earl

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A perfect demonstration that you have no idea what Benghazi is.

Illegal arms smuggling to Syrian terrorists aside, we suffered a terrorist attack and our people died. The White House then fearing their re-election narrative of defeating terrorists, instead of calling it what it was decided to blame Americans for the "protest".

Yes, this President's administration blames YOU, me, and everyone else for our free speech, for our youtube videos, for making people angry. For making them "protest" and for them killing Americans in Benghazi. Weeks later, after these lies became clear and repugnant, the President still spoke to the UN of the "video". Of America's fault.

All so they could save face and not be embarrassed. What are they covering up? Pretty much nothing. But they're doing it. They are corrupt and lying and breaking the law and the media is complicit in assisting, as demonstrated by that second Presidential debate.

This is conspiracy of corruption rooted down to nothing more than petty partisan politics. Where the White House fabricates a hateful lie against the American people, stood by that lie, and the media stood with them. The video maker was even arrested. They never came clean and had to be dragged against their will to divulge any information. Just this week we finally learn that the White House was directly involved in orchestrating this lie.

Perhaps if this was not the most secretive white house in history, then none of their covering, lying, and scheming would have felt necessary. Maybe then they would have been honest and not try to pawn the terrorist attack off as a protest caused by Americans.

How should an American vote if he wanted to stop America arming the terrorists in the first place?
 
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