The Benghazi Story goes critical

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jman19

Lifer
Nov 3, 2000
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Redneck... Keep putting your bigotry on display. Good thing they didn't pick a black member of Congress from the South. I bet a bigot like you would really have something to say about him. Eh, Donald?

And here comes the faux outrage from a self-admitted P&N troll.
 

senseamp

Lifer
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Redneck... Keep putting your bigotry on display. Good thing they didn't pick a black member of Congress from the South. I bet a bigot like you would really have something to say about him. Eh, Donald?

Boo-hoo-hoo.
It's the drunk looking bitter face of the new GOP, like it or not:

:biggrin:
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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lol 10,000 people killed in auto accidents and you insist on going on and on and on about the one I backed over.

Outrage about the killings are as always directed at those who killed them. Outrage directed at Team Obama is twofold, that they poorly planned both security and response (which may be totally unfounded) and that they lied and spun to make themselves look better (which is unarguably true.) I'm unconvinced about the validity of the former and unexcited about the latter, but let's at least be honest about it.

But you're willing to drag it out & entertain whatever conspiracy accusations in support of outrage attacks that may occur. Understood. You'll dance back & forth across the line of reasonableness to conceal your basic partisan lack of it, too, always ready to pick up the banner should it fall.

Basically, you admit there's no evidence that security was outside of normal parameters as allowed by the budget. Not that you'll set that aside, clearly wanting others to believe to the contrary.

Up next we have the scurrilous attack by the Romney Campaign, totally groundless based on the above. Pure partisan hackery as only Repubs can fabricate. It's then followed by conspiracy spin & speculation from every right wing talking head in the country.

The Obamites handled their own PR rather poorly, which you insist on characterizing as lies when the evidence merely indicates that they were mistaken. Of course they tried to spin it to suit their own purposes, in response to the enormous amount of lying conspiracy spin coming from the other side.

Which is all used as distraction from the simple fact that Repubs have no answers for the problems facing America. In many respects, they are the problem. Enormous & increasing inequality, which damages the very fabric of society & threatens egalitarian democracy. Enormous unemployment & lack of opportunity. Crumbling infrastructure. Insufficient tax base to accomplish what needs to be accomplished by the Govt of the People. Repubs' absolute obstructionism in nearly all things, from routine appointments to much needed financial regulation. Hostage taking & extortion at every opportunity. The list goes on from there.

Outrage? Of course. The Repub base is addicted to it, since it's necessary for the maintenance of partisan denial. Keep 'em worked up & emotional so that they'll overlook the truth.
 

RampantAndroid

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Jun 27, 2004
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It's going to be super hilarious if the Ukraine situation escalates and Republicans are still wasting State Department's time over 20 month old talking points.

Yes, because the US should get involved with the Ukraine situation. Mhhmm.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
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Boo-hoo-hoo.
It's the drunk looking bitter face of the new GOP, like it or not:

:biggrin:

Aw heck......with a shave, a visit to the hairdresser, some makeup and some major facial reconstruction surgery...why, he'd look just like a child begotten from a wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am affair between Michelle Bachmann and Rush Limbaugh....except without the shave, the hair-do visit and the major facial reconstruction surgery.
 

First

Lifer
Jun 3, 2002
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It's so awesome to see the principles and ideology of party implode in their entirety over a non-story. This is going to be so epically bad for Repubs, yet so fun to watch. Bring it on! Haha.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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It's so awesome to see the principles and ideology of party implode in their entirety over a non-story. This is going to be so epically bad for Repubs, yet so fun to watch. Bring it on! Haha.

How badly informed are they? I mean... if they are doing it now over the White House e-mail..., the CIA already took the fall. There's nothing more to find here.
 

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
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Shouldn't this thread be move to LOVE AND RELATIONSHIPS?
Obviously republicans are in love with Benghazi.
And the idea of an President Hillary....
I bet when house republicans have sex they cry out Hillary Benghazi, Hillary Benghazi, Hillary Benghazi, Hillary Benghazi, oh oh oh oh ooooooohhhhhhhhhhh.......
Got a smoke?
 

werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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lol +1

This.

I struggle to see how this is hard to get. But there were a lot of sleight of hand maneuvers by the administration to confuse the issue, not the least of which was their adamant insistence that they had limited influence over talking points (clearly a lie). Yea, the administration clearly chose to craft and push a cover about what occurred and led to the deaths at Benghazi instead of telling the truth, but lets keep bastardizing common sense as long as our team is punished by the application of simple common sense.

The left is going bonkers trying to defend the indefensible here. Can't say I understand it, but the same nonsense follows each team whenever they are in similar positions. In the end the nonsense is bad for everybody, I'm quite content to say that in our current political environment that this kind of nonsense is an equal opportunity employer and does not discriminate based on party affiliation. But here with the current administration and benghazi, what harm is calling a spade a spade?, the real harm is in buying into the nonsense.

One of the pleasant things to take notice from this and similar issues is that the opposition to those in power should be taken seriously if for the sole reason that their skepticism has in the past been warranted. If we look back, we can see where Dems had valid points that were bastardized when Repubs held power and vica versa. The agendas on both sides are so corrupt and full of deceit that the silver lining is that at least it gets exposed somewhat by opposition of any kind.
Yep, and well said.

Kerry has been subpoenaed to appear before the House Oversight Committee to answer accusations that the State Department has been "illegally withholding subpoenaed material" from Congress, action that could "constitute a criminal offense."

It took a FOIA lawsuit by Judicial Watch to get the latest releases.

I guess the good news is that although the feds think nothing of ignoring Congress, they are still complying with FOIA lawsuits. Our government has not gone full rogue - yet. /s

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...edium=story&utm_campaign=BreakingNewsCarousel
Are they complying with FOIA lawsuits because they have not yet gone full rogue, or because they are just beyond caring what we know?
 

Jhhnn

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Are they complying with FOIA lawsuits because they have not yet gone full rogue, or because they are just beyond caring what we know?

For the Birther Benghazi crowd, it's only what they believe they know that matters. The further from the truth, the more they seem to like it.

It's like teasing a cat with a laser pointer, except they never tire of it. Cats aren't really very smart, but they do catch on eventually, unlike some people who never do.
 

blankslate

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At least a dozen Americans died in Embassy attacks from 2001 to the end of 2008 and there was no outrage... hmmm....



....
 

boomerang

Lifer
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Are they complying with FOIA lawsuits because they have not yet gone full rogue, or because they are just beyond caring what we know?
That's a hell of a question. I've heard musings of this being bigger than Watergate and we ended up with a President resigning on that one. But I think we'd have to have a press willing to actually do their jobs to reach that kind of pinnacle. Obama is safe for the rest of his term.

So, the answer at this point in time is that they don't care. Once again, from what I'm hearing the ultimate fall guy is going to be an underling whose fall from grace will barely make a splash. Make no mistake about it though, he was acting as a faithful soldier should, protecting the supreme leader. Nothing was to tarnish the image of Obama and certainly not with an election weeks away. They couldn't have pesky facts negating his proclamations. If the man says he's parted the sea, they surely can't have boats out bobbing around on it.

Politician's across the land learned a great deal from Watergate. Mistakes of that caliber will not be repeated. Insulating, isolating, obfuscations and outright lying are the order of the day. We will not have another President unseated - of any party.

Obama still has his pen and he still has his phone. 990 days to go.

Edit: Oh, and it's all the Koch brothers' doing anyway. At least according to Harry Reid. http://washingtonexaminer.com/harry-reid-benghazi-is-a-koch-brothers-plot/article/2548015
 
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RampantAndroid

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At least a dozen Americans died in Embassy attacks from 2001 to the end of 2008 and there was no outrage... hmmm....



....

*Sigh* Fine, we'll do this dance again.

How many of those happened over a number of hours, where the embassy was surrounded by a crowd preceding the attack, and then the attack lasting hours? How many of those had proper security forces guarding the embassy? How many had advanced warnings? How many of those did we not even bother to secure the embassy after the attack, and leave it and all materials unguarded for a MONTH?

Doesn't the fact that Delta operatives could have been on the scene within an HOUR of the attack mean something? They were ordered to not violate Libyan airspace, instead landed at the nearby airstrip and waited for Libyan security forces to escort them - which delayed them another hour I think? Did Obama not know that attacking an embassy is grounds for war?

I cannot say for certain what another president would have done. I can tell you what I expect to be done in that situation: fuck Libyan airspace. Get people on the ground, and get them air support. If that means flying an AC130 gunship overhead and engaging hostile targets, fine - deal with the fallout later on once personnel are secure.

Long story short, what I find offensive about this whole thing is how people try to downplay it. How the "how could we have know?!" card has been played...this isn't a Watergate, but it certainly is indicative of Obama's abilities to lead, and potentially Hillary's as well. Reagan's response to Libyan saber rattling and their jets targeting our jets and ships was:

During a National Security Council briefing, the admiral in charge asked precisely how far U.S. aircraft would be permitted to retaliate against Libyan aircraft. Reagan answered: "All the way into their hangar," into Libya itself.
 

fskimospy

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That's a hell of a question. I've heard musings of this being bigger than Watergate and we ended up with a President resigning on that one. But I think we'd have to have a press willing to actually do their jobs to reach that kind of pinnacle. Obama is safe for the rest of his term.

So, the answer at this point in time is that they don't care. Once again, from what I'm hearing the ultimate fall guy is going to be an underling whose fall from grace will barely make a splash. Make no mistake about it though, he was acting as a faithful soldier should, protecting the supreme leader. Nothing was to tarnish the image of Obama and certainly not with an election weeks away. They couldn't have pesky facts negating his proclamations. If the man says he's parted the sea, they surely can't have boats out bobbing around on it.

Politician's across the land learned a great deal from Watergate. Mistakes of that caliber will not be repeated. Insulating, isolating, obfuscations and outright lying are the order of the day. We will not have another President unseated - of any party.

Obama still has his pen and he still has his phone. 990 days to go.

Edit: Oh, and it's all the Koch brothers' doing anyway. At least according to Harry Reid. http://washingtonexaminer.com/harry-reid-benghazi-is-a-koch-brothers-plot/article/2548015

Lol. And you wonder why people make fun of you guys for acting crazy.
 

bshole

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Do you think the Republicans will ever get around to investigating these embassy attacks? Why are the Democrats such better human beings than Republicans? Democrats (being decent people) didn't try to turn any of these attacks into political gain. How much longer are we going to allow the Republicans to act in such a despicable treasonous manner?

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.
 

TerryMathews

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Do you think the Republicans will ever get around to investigating these embassy attacks? Why are the Democrats such better human beings than Republicans? Democrats (being decent people) didn't try to turn any of these attacks into political gain. How much longer are we going to allow the Republicans to act in such a despicable treasonous manner?

They were too busy printing Anybody but Boosh bumper stickers and putting the makeup on Herman Munster.
 

zephyrprime

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Who cares about the Bengazi attacks? It's a non-issue. A common tragedy in a world with terrorists.
 

fskimospy

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Who cares about the Bengazi attacks? It's a non-issue. A common tragedy in a world with terrorists.

Conservatives hate Obama with the fire of a million suns. They constantly talk to each other about how Obama is the 'most corrupt administration in history' and things like that. Despite all this there has yet to be a single significant scandal. This has to be infuriating to them.
 
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