Oh, ok. Thanks for the insight. I'll just leave this here for people like you. You know, people who aren't idiots that are a fucking joke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack#Investigation
Yawn. Tell me, are you a Fox fan or more of an AM talk radio sort of guy? Either way, I'm sure the RNC appreciates your obedient recitation of their propaganda points. Though I will say it's more than a bit hypocritical for you to insinuate others are swallowing the media spin when it's quite clear that's exactly where you're getting your disinformation.I would argue that people tossing up graphs of news coverage and claiming it as evidence of something other than the news covering an upcoming event of public interest rather than just repeatedly covering the same topics that have been covered, and are currently beyond the point of the public having an immediate effect over, are either afraid, or doing a poor job of mocking.
In this matter, democrats are merely unwilling to accept the reality that people should be held accountable for gross incompetence which leads to the avoidable deaths of our citizens due to blind party affiliation, and it shows to anyone that isn't blind. Otherwise, what's the big deal? Give politicians a free pass at sitting idly while our citizens are killed because they are... politicians?
Really? Why is this inquiry crucial? What will this inquiry, run by the most politically biased people in America (Congressmen), headed into an election, produce that the other five inquiries won't? (State Department, Issa's circus, Ambassador Pickering, Senate Select Committee, and the FBI's.) This latest inquiry is purely partisan theater, something blatantly obvious to all but the most deluded party shills.The inquiry is crucial to ensuring steps are taken to prevent and/or inhibit things like this from happening again
I agree, Issa's blatant lying has tainted and impeded this investigation. He has consistently suppressed contrary witness testimony, misrepresented testimony by selectively leaking cherry-picked comments taken out of context, altered evidence provided to the press, and blatantly lied about the activities of his committee. In short, people like you wouldn't be so misinformed if slime-balls like Issa weren't lying their asses off.instead of just letting it be buried in bullshit, and allowing those holding the shovel to continue burying it deeper. Not to mention, it wouldn't even need to be done if people would just tell the truth, admit where fuckups occurred, but we couldn't possibly have people advocating against their one-sided political viewpoint to realize that it wouldn't have been an issue in the first place if people weren't lying their asses off, right?
Both "sides" are stupid, though. Republicans just happen to be on the right side of this one (harhar!).
You should read your link, or at least take a stab at quoting what it is you think supports your argument.
One could read the points from the 1/15/14 report from the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence found on that same page and suspect you don't know wtf you are talking about.
Yawn. Tell me, are you a Fox fan or more of an AM talk radio sort of guy? Either way, I'm sure the RNC appreciates your obedient recitation of their propaganda points. Though I will say it's more than a bit hypocritical for you to insinuate others are swallowing the media spin when it's quite clear that's exactly where you're getting your disinformation.
Really? Why is this inquiry crucial? What will this inquiry, run by the most politically biased people in America (Congressmen), headed into an election, produce that the other five inquiries won't? (State Department, Issa's circus, Ambassador Pickering, Senate Select Committee, and the FBI's.) This latest inquiry is purely partisan theater, something blatantly obvious to all but the most deluded party shills.
I agree, Issa's blatant lying has tainted and impeded this investigation. He has consistently suppressed contrary witness testimony, misrepresented testimony by selectively leaking cherry-picked comments taken out of context, altered evidence provided to the press, and blatantly lied about the activities of his committee. In short, people like you wouldn't be so misinformed if slime-balls like Issa weren't lying their asses off.
Instead of remaining in Fox-fueled bliss, why don't you try educating yourself by reading something credible and factual. The Senate released it's report: http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/do...ence-committee-report-on-benghazi-attack/748/
You'll find it contains a lot of information, much of it not favorable to the government agencies involved. You'll also find much of what you "know" to be true is pure propaganda, designed to keep people like you properly outraged and pulling the big (R) lever.
Benghazi was a tragedy. The Republicans' shameless attempts to exploit that tragedy for partisan gain is repugnant.
So?I'm not a republican.
Yawn, again. I'll simply note you didn't address a single point raised. Instead, you tossed out a distraction, repeated the same disinformed RNC talking point, and closed with a really weak appeal to emotion. I'll give you a 2 out of 10.Nice of you to prove my point by just blindly labeling me as such, though. Go ahead and continue arguing that preventable American deaths should just be swept under the rug with nobody being held accountable for them. I'm sure when it's your mother / father / brother, you'll be happier with them being eaten by some worms.
Hey has this thing gone critical yet or we still talking about the echo chamber?
The topic title? That was settled months ago when Democrats and Republicans stood by illegal arms smuggling to Syrian terrorists.
It would seem American leaders love nothing more than to be public, open, criminals. Knowing that they have each other's backs and that there's nothing the plebeians can do about it.
So?
Yawn, again. I'll simply note you didn't address a single point raised. Instead, you tossed out a distraction, repeated the same disinformed RNC talking point, and closed with a really weak appeal to emotion. I'll give you a 2 out of 10.
It is unfortunate you chose not to inform yourself before firing back with the same tired, RNC-crafted propaganda. It makes you look like a Republican shill, even as you deny it. Actions speak louder than words, you know.
My apologies. I thought your ignorance was willful. Instead, it appears your reading skills are as juvenile as your math. Hint: that one can train a parrot to repeat Republican talking points doesn't make the parrot Republican. It makes it a mindless tool for spreading propaganda.ROFL
-"You're a republican!!!"
-"No, I'm not"
-"You're a republican!!!"
I thank you for reiterating my point you previously proved.
Says the imbecile who believes Nazi War Criminals should go unpunished "because they're old".
My apologies. I thought your ignorance was willful. Instead, it appears your reading skills are as juvenile as your math. Hint: that one can train a parrot to repeat Republican talking points doesn't make the parrot Republican. It makes it a mindless tool for spreading propaganda.
And you still failed to address a single point I made. You are a joke.
Maybe the Republicans could hire OJ Simpson to find the "real truth".
Oh, ok. Thanks for the insight. I'll just leave this here for people like you. You know, people who aren't idiots that are a fucking joke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack#Investigation
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Like I said, you idiots are a fucking joke!
Your response was a link to the wiki? I don't need the fucking wiki, I read the report!
Why would I bother? It is obvious you have no interest in anything other than trying to find an invisible Republican to try to argue against anywhere you look. I don't put much stock in someone criticizing my reading skills when they repeatedly ignore what I state to try to scare out their imagined boogeyman, then retract only after being twice over reminded of this -- with a retraction that the boogeyman is still there. Or a "mindless tool," for that matter, from a guy that says so while he attempts to justify needless deaths with the existence of a boogeyman.
I think you really need to take a step back and understand that you are exemplifying the behavior you imagine I exhibit if you are going to continue attempting to justify having zero accountability for the needless deaths of or citizens. I don't think you could seriously look at what you have written in any of your responses to me and come to the conclusion that anything you've said is remotely close to warranting a response.
You don't need to continue on with your charade to try to save face after you realize your err. I don't even have the expectation that you do anything other than admit it to yourself. This is, after all, the internet. At the least, however, I would expect you to move on instead of continuing to imagine things that don't exist. I think failing to do so indicates mental illness. Going off the extremity of your responses, I am seriously concerned for you.
I'm not doing this as some sort of arguing tool, I consider that matter resolved already to probably anyone but you. I'm just letting you know that you are pretty far outside the realm of rationality and that you need to look at what you've posted and realize it, even if its only to yourself.
I'm not going to further respond to you here because I think I've wasted enough of my time, regardless of whatever inane fiction you try to falsely attribute to me through your political party evangelism running amuck. And I'm sure that in your mind you think you've wasted enough of yours. I would just urge you to take the advice I post here and not ignore it.
Like I said, you idiots are a fucking joke!
Your response was a link to the wiki? I don't need the fucking wiki, I read the report!
Just give it up dude. If you don't want to treated like a hopeless parrot, don't behave like one. Your confidence in your position is completely unsupported by both your input here and the events and links you've cited. You don't have the horses for this ride, I wouldn't tempt posters like Bow to illustrate it further for you. No one buys your act, not when you've got multiple posts under your belt that show you to be so out of the loop, so allergic to supporting your own claims.
Your reply to me sucked btw, just another cop out, one of many it seems. 1/10.
I ignored nothing, sweetie. You just don't like being held accountable for your words. Your prattle about boogeymen is self-serving tripe. Your nonsense about my mental state is a hilariously transparent Hail Mary play to distract from your own failures. Your "I'm not going to further respond," is an equally lame cop-out, underscoring your complete inability to support your position with facts.
If you spent half as much effort educating yourself about Benghazi as you do blowing smoke, we'd be done here. The core issue is that you're a belligerent blowhard. You are proudly, defiantly ignorant, and you wield that ignorance as a club, beating on anyone within your reach. When someone has the temerity to challenge you, you raise your voice and swing harder. What you seemingly will not do, under any circumstances, is make any effort to actually inform yourself.
All deaths are preventable when blessed with 20/20 hindsight. Behghazi is no different. If you bothered to read the Senate Select Committee report, you'll find it has numerous findings and recommendations for preventing such tragedies in the future. What is doesn't do is serve up the Obama administration blood you and your Fox brethren crave.
The fact is the entire Middle East is a dangerous place, not just Libya. The fact is that we had no advance warnings about imminent danger in Benghazi, contrary to the talking point. The fact is our Benghazi office was not an embassy or even a consulate. It was a tertiary outpost that never gets the same sort of security we give to full embassies. The fact is that Ambassador Stevens, more aware of the situation than almost anyone else, still chose to travel to Benghazi, strongly suggesting he also had no idea how bad things there had become. The fact is there were numerous protests across the Muslim world about that infamous video, and the CIA initially assumed the Benghazi attack was related to such demonstrations. The fact is the CIA included that assumption in the very first copy of its talking points sent to the White House and State Department. The fact is that although Rice did state they believed the attack was tied to those protests, she also consistently stated that they were just beginning the investigation and that they were looking at possible ties to terrorist groups.
Those are the facts. You state that this sixth inquiry is "crucial". Why? What truth will it find that the other five have not, especially given this one is being run by highly partisan politicians actively running for reelection? You lecture us about people blinded by partisanship, yet you rationalize that this purely partisan inquiry is somehow going to be productive. Another partisan inquiry is the exact opposite of what you claim to want. You are either confused or a dishonest hypocrite.
Finally, just to make this crystal clear yet again, I don't give the tiniest rat's ass whether you call yourself Republican or not. I'm fine with believing you are simply a duped parrot who repeats their propaganda points without formally aligning with the party. Your affiliation has absolutely zero to do with any of the points I've raised, and you continuing to cry about it is an empty diversion attempt. It. Doesn't. Matter.
False. You also raised at least two other points. One blamed partisanship for the lack of resolution, and "democrats" [sic] specifically for being "unwilling to accept reality". The other, the one I've most emphatically challenged you on, was:The only issue that I have raised is the following: people should be held accountable for the gross incompetence leading to the deaths of our citizens. Neither of you are willing to address my sole point, and would rather try to act as though I am somehow ignoring facts or evidence when the very reports you guys claim prove me wrong conclude that the deaths were preventable.
Another falsehood.What has come of it, thus far? Nothing. Why? I don't know, but my suggestion is to find out instead of turning something that needs to be done for the security of our citizens. Your suggestions are to instead act as though nobody is at fault and to just allow people making severe errors in judgment to continue to do so.
In other words, you've got nothing. When presented with facts, you've turned tail again.I'm just going to put you on ignore since you seem to be completely psychotic.
False. You also raised at least two other points. One blamed partisanship for the lack of resolution, and "democrats" [sic] specifically for being "unwilling to accept reality". The other, the one I've most emphatically challenged you on, was:
"The inquiry is crucial to ensuring steps are taken to prevent and/or inhibit things like this from happening again"I've challenged you multiple times to support that assertion, to justify your own words, and you've always turned tail.
Another falsehood.
In other words, you've got nothing. When presented with facts, you've turned tail again.
That's fine, and I do appreciate you putting me on ignore. It makes it a lot easier to refute your RNC-approved noise without having to also refute your subsequent tantrums. But, if you ever get tired of being played as a rube, I can usually point you to credible, and often authoritative sources of information. That's sort of my thing. I use the media to keep aware of current issues, but I much prefer original source material for full and accurate information.
Toodles.
Then we have morons like you whose more concerned with events 70 years ago than what our leaders do today.
The only issue that I have raised is the following: people should be held accountable for the gross incompetence leading to the deaths of our citizens.
Indeed, one can hope. Given an interview with Gowdy that I saw today, it sounds like he's already formed his conclusions and will be seeking evidence to support them. Perhaps that was simply posturing for the Republican base, and he will actually do his job honestly. We'll see.The select committee may have an entirely different purpose than what we imagine.
I get the distinct impression that Boehner is fed up with the Teatards & with Issa's antics, as well. Some straight up honesty from the committee would reveal the perps for what they are, and may be the upshot of the whole thing. Or not. One can hope. ...
Well, yeh, but the accusation of gross incompetence is entirely partisan, inflammatory, & unsupported by the facts.
False premises lead to false conclusions pretty much every time.