The Benghazi Story goes critical

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IronWing

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Obama's deeds are his alone. If there was something shady going on in Benghazi, Reagan in his grave has nothing to do with it.
Can't be too sure with Reagan. No one staked him in there despite the obvious need.
 

OutHouse

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Benghazi -- What to fall back on when your party doesn't have any solutions to real problems like health care and the economy.


wow, see this is the issue at hand. instead of addressing the issue, Lemmings like this guy just say "dont worry about the man behind the curtain"
 

buckshot24

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wow, see this is the issue at hand. instead of addressing the issue, Lemmings like this guy just say "dont worry about the man behind the curtain"
As long as leftists get what they want they don't give a shit how its done. Fuck the law.
 
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Nobody has any "real" solutions to health care or the economy. That doesn't mean a potential scandal like this shouldn't be discussed.

At least the Democrats tried to do something and probably couldn't do what they would really want to do (socialized medicine) because of the Republicans.

Benghazi: 4 people died in one day in one isolated incident, but hundreds of Americans die every day as a result of lack of health care. Focus on Benghazi!
 
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wow, see this is the issue at hand. instead of addressing the issue, Lemmings like this guy just say "dont worry about the man behind the curtain"

Don't you find it just a little bit strange that the Republicans are more emotionally invested in a relatively irrelevant issue like Benghazi than an issue of crucial national importance like health care?
 

buckshot24

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At least the Democrats tried to do something and probably couldn't do what they would really want to do (socialized medicine) because of the Republicans.
Doing something isn't always better than doing nothing.

Benghazi: 4 people died in one day in one isolated incident, but hundreds of Americans die every day as a result of lack of health care. Focus on Benghazi!
If you take this line of thinking to its logical conclusion you can keep saying we have "bigger fish to fry" so lets ignore this one problem. Individual murders are insignificant, for example, right?
 

Jhhnn

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wow, see this is the issue at hand. instead of addressing the issue, Lemmings like this guy just say "dont worry about the man behind the curtain"

Heh. And the "issue" wrt the tragic events at Benghazi is what, exactly?

I mean, really. This is reminiscent of the shameful Whitewater investigation, which started out about alleged financial crimes by the Clintons, but the only thing that Starr could pin on him was lying about blowjobs from an intern. It's totally unrelated, but witch hunts are like that.
 

buckshot24

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Heh. And the "issue" wrt the tragic events at Benghazi is what, exactly?

I mean, really. This is reminiscent of the shameful Whitewater investigation, which started out about alleged financial crimes by the Clintons, but the only thing that Starr could pin on him was lying about blowjobs from an intern. It's totally unrelated, but witch hunts are like that.
So lying to a grand jury about blowjobs is ok? What other perjury do you support? A list would be nice.
 

monovillage

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Rumors are that Bigfoot came out of the woods & staged a press conference.

Go ahead- prove me wrong!

The House can and probably will subpoena David H. Petraeus to find out the truth in the matter at the time it happened.
 

monovillage

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Heh. And the "issue" wrt the tragic events at Benghazi is what, exactly?

I mean, really. This is reminiscent of the shameful Whitewater investigation, which started out about alleged financial crimes by the Clintons, but the only thing that Starr could pin on him was lying about blowjobs from an intern. It's totally unrelated, but witch hunts are like that.

You mean Clinton committing perjury ? It's OK to you because as far as you're concerned any leftist/Democrat should be above and exempt from breaking any laws because of their moral righteousness.

Good thing the rest of the country doesn't agree with you.
 

ivwshane

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It's funny what happens when an ambassador is killed isn't it dipshit.

It's funny watching you guys move the goal posts and contort the information we have to fit your narrative.

By the way the CIA is an independent executive office and reports to the DNI who then reports to both the president and congress (he advises the president and congress provides "oversight").

The CIA in my opinion is probably the worst government entity we have and I believe they are a threat to our democracy as well as a threat to the rest of the world. Blaming the president for their actions would result in nothing. The focus, if deserved, should be kept on the CIA. They need their powers and budgets cut!
 
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boomerang

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Don't you find it just a little bit strange that the Republicans are more emotionally invested in a relatively irrelevant issue like Benghazi than an issue of crucial national importance like health care?
I find it stranger that four Americans dying in Libya is exponentially less newsworthy that one dead American in Florida.

I'm thinking maybe a fix would entail that all American personnel overseas should be issued a hoodie - and skittles.

But as a highly revered criminal once said, "At this point what difference does it make?"
 

Bowfinger

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I find it stranger that four Americans dying in Libya is exponentially less newsworthy that one dead American in Florida.
I get that. Kind of like how less partisan Americans might find it strange that those four deaths in Benghazi were exponentially less outrage-worthy than the ~182 deaths in diplomatic facility attacks during Bush's tenure, or the >>4600 U.S. deaths in Iraq that were caused by lies and cover-ups (as opposed to Benghazi, where the lies and cover-up came after the fact). In reality, of course, we don't find it strange at all, because exploiting tragedy to attack one's opponents is one of the oldest tricks in the book. A repugnant, morally bankrupt trick, to be sure, but an old one.


I'm thinking maybe a fix would entail that all American personnel overseas should be issued a hoodie - and skittles.
Think that would have made the Bush apologists suddenly care about all the Americans they intentionally sent to die? How about the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis? No, probably not. You boys don't care about dead people at all unless you can blame their deaths on a Democrat. Only then does it matter, with the usual outburst of faux outrage (on cue from your puppeteers).


But as a highly revered criminal once said, "At this point what difference does it make?"
Right, that's what you boys say every time someone points out the Benghazi deaths are a tiny fraction of those killed in years past, and a drop in the bucket compared to Iraq. "But, but, Boosh! What difference does it make now?"

Hypocrites. Craven, soulless, shameless partisan hypocrites.

Benghazi was a tragedy. We lost four good Americans that night. But those Americans were killed by local extremists, not by Obama or Clinton or any other Americans. And yes, absolutely, our government needs to find out what happened, why it happened, and what steps can be taken to prevent such tragedies in the future. But they're already doing that, and having transparently partisan lowlifes attacking them only impedes that process.

Frankly, you and your ilk are much like those terrorists in your constant attacks on America. That's not hyperbole, that's a sad fact. While your partisan hate mongering may not carry a death toll (at least not directly), it is certainly destructive to American society and American government. It is a constant corrosive force that is disintegrating the bonds that held Americans together and diverts attention from our real problems. Indeed, one could make the case that unmitigated partisanship on both sides is the real terrorist threat to America. While Islamic terrorists may cost us lives and dollars, that is really only superficial damage. It is diehard partisans who are destroying America's foundation.


Edit: For the record, I don't care at all about the Martin/Zimmerman circus, or the Casey Anthony circus, or the Cardassians, or any of the other sensationalistic tripe our lame media and media clowns like Sharpton and Limbaugh flog mercilessly. Such local and celebrity "stories" are voyeuristic entertainment, not national news. I'm pretty sure I didn't post even once in the big Zimmerman thread.
 
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Jhhnn

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You mean Clinton committing perjury ? It's OK to you because as far as you're concerned any leftist/Democrat should be above and exempt from breaking any laws because of their moral righteousness.

Good thing the rest of the country doesn't agree with you.

Strawman follower.
 

boomerang

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Let me do a cliffs on your post.

"Blah, blah Bush. Bush, blah, blah. More comparisons to Bush. Bush, Bush, Bush. My heroes are doing a great job. I'm a better 'murican than you."

Oh and you really made my day painting yourself as some kind of non-partisan deity. Pathetic.
 

Bowfinger

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Let me do a cliffs on your post.

"Blah, blah Bush. Bush, blah, blah. More comparisons to Bush. Bush, Bush, Bush. My heroes are doing a great job. I'm a better 'murican than you."

Oh and you really made my day painting yourself as some kind of non-partisan deity. Pathetic.
In other words, you lack both the intellectual horsepower and the strength of character to address what I said. Perhaps if you forward my comment to Fox, they can tell you what you think about it. You are truly useless, a waste of human potential. You are exactly what is wrong with America today.
 

Matt1970

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In other words, you lack both the intellectual horsepower and the strength of character to address what I said. Perhaps if you forward my comment to Fox, they can tell you what you think about it. You are truly useless, a waste of human potential. You are exactly what is wrong with America today.

Sorry, double post
 
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EagleKeeper

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Benghazi was a tragedy. We lost four good Americans that night. But those Americans were killed by local extremists, not by Obama or Clinton or any other Americans. And yes, absolutely, our government needs to find out what happened, why it happened, and what steps can be taken to prevent such tragedies in the future. But they're already doing that, and having transparently partisan lowlifes attacking them only impedes that process.
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For myself; this is a big concern. Will the government try to find out what happened and will they actually release that info.

As information is being dragged/trickled out; it seems that the Obama administration is fighting such release of information al the way from the first 5 minutes until now or sending out false directions.

But as more info is being released; the dirty story and 20/20 hindsight shows that it seems that there was serious misdirection and a hush over attempt on revealing information.

The attitude is/was that "We know what is best - you do not"


As to your second sentence bolded; I am sure that they will do lip service.
But without a disclosure (full) on the first; how well can the American people determine is being done on the second item.

Even now they are closing embassies around the region because of a threat assessment. The embassies are there to support US interests and citizens.

When in our history did we shutter embassies except when in wartime. Are we now at war with Kuwait or Jordan?

Initially State seems to have dropped the ball and wanted to blame others based on statements from that arena.

Then the blame on a video; when information has shown otherwise and was known before the statements were made

The cover up (from my POV) of being concerned about intruding on sovereign territory so much that the risk of Americans and an ambassador was not worth an attempt at air cover.

Now the issue of arms flow is surfacing.
 
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Matt1970

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In other words, you lack both the intellectual horsepower and the strength of character to address what I said. Perhaps if you forward my comment to Fox, they can tell you what you think about it. You are truly useless, a waste of human potential. You are exactly what is wrong with America today.

No, he pretty much summed you up in a couple of short sentences.
 
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