The Benghazi Story goes critical

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GarfieldtheCat

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That is sufficient reason to act here, although if the President decides not severely limit his response it's not going to hurt my feelings.


Yeah, he is sad . . .

Still waiting on you to explain your what is worse about claiming Ollie told you about OBL. Was it deliberate trolling or incredible stupidity for believing a chain email? Either way, you look (as usual) like a stupid troll.

Is matt1970 an alt of yours? You two spend a lot of time defending each other...very odd. Especially since everyone else agrees that you are wrong.
 

werepossum

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Still waiting on you to explain your what is worse about claiming Ollie told you about OBL. Was it deliberate trolling or incredible stupidity for believing a chain email? Either way, you look (as usual) like a stupid troll.

Is matt1970 an alt of yours? You two spend a lot of time defending each other...very odd. Especially since everyone else agrees that you are wrong.
"Everyone else" being a certain special someone currently incarcerated as a
political prisoner"?
 

schmuckley

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Bump 9/11 is coming up.What happens this year?
PS: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...yed-response-to-terrorist-attack-us-security/

I'm not saying I like the way that news is presented.

but what's really happening?

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/09/0...ressure-me-over-fox-colleagues-benghazi-story

Censorship.

Ok..These people are violating Amendment 1 and 2..the very first ones! seriously.

My theory is that Obama was arming ISIS through Bhenghazi and the ambassador was going to blow the whistle.

Remember this: You can fool some of the people some of the time,and you can fool some of the people all the time;but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
 
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dank69

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Bump 9/11 is coming up.What happens this year?
PS: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...yed-response-to-terrorist-attack-us-security/

I'm not saying I like the way that news is presented.

but what's really happening?

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/09/0...ressure-me-over-fox-colleagues-benghazi-story

Censorship.

Ok..These people are violating Amendment 1 and 2..the very first ones! seriously.

My theory is that Obama was arming ISIS through Bhenghazi and the ambassador was going to blow the whistle.

Remember this: You can fool some of the people some of the time,and you can fool some of the people all the time;but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
Fantastic post. Fox can fool you all of the time. I wonder if you know where ISIL is and I wonder if you could find Benghazi on a map.
 

etrigan420

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Bump 9/11 is coming up.What happens this year?
PS: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...yed-response-to-terrorist-attack-us-security/

I'm not saying I like the way that news is presented.

but what's really happening?

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/09/0...ressure-me-over-fox-colleagues-benghazi-story

Censorship.

Ok..These people are violating Amendment 1 and 2..the very first ones! seriously.

My theory is that Obama was arming ISIS through Bhenghazi and the ambassador was going to blow the whistle.

Remember this: You can fool some of the people some of the time,and you can fool some of the people all the time;but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

Whoever fooled Greta into that plastic surgery decision should be in jail...

Fo' Realz.
 

werepossum

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How debunked? The operators say they were told to stand down. Nobody denies they were told to stand down; the only denials are that this order originated from Obama or State (which isn't even in the CIA's chain of command.) The issue is who ultimately gave the order, and in that the guest is no doubt correct. Sending only three shooters can easily be counterproductive.

It may not even have been with any real hope of getting the locals to help. It's at least as important to find out where they are, so that even if they aren't helping, the two sides (CIA operators and Libyan "security") aren't shooting at each other. That's an important thing because it's theoretically possible that the assault poses no danger but casualties result from the reaction force engaging/being engaged by the security force. In fact, that was a popular Viet Cong tactic - slip between two enemy units, make a lot of noise without taking much personal risk, then slip out while they fire at each other and hopefully call in arty or air strikes on each other.

But either way, the operators' claims are not in conflict with Lane's interpretation, unless one assumes that all stand down orders are issued from the President. (Or I suppose, one assumes that a stand down order necessarily means we're sitting this one out rather than don't do anything right now.) This is merely Media Matters running cover for Obama when he doesn't even need it.
 

Jaskalas

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The "stand down" is real for the 3 men. It just didn't originate from high in the chain of command. It's also a sound call to make when resources are so sparse and you don't know !@#$.
 

Jhhnn

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The "stand down" is real for the 3 men. It just didn't originate from high in the chain of command. It's also a sound call to make when resources are so sparse and you don't know !@#$.

How lame. The order was to wait, not to stand down, as the Fox link clearly indicates.

Fail.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Bump 9/11 is coming up.What happens this year?
PS: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...yed-response-to-terrorist-attack-us-security/

I'm not saying I like the way that news is presented.

but what's really happening?

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/09/0...ressure-me-over-fox-colleagues-benghazi-story

Censorship.

Ok..These people are violating Amendment 1 and 2..the very first ones! seriously.

My theory is that Obama was arming ISIS through Bhenghazi and the ambassador was going to blow the whistle.

Remember this: You can fool some of the people some of the time,and you can fool some of the people all the time;but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

Uber Fail.

Only the most avid conspiracy loon would post such drivel.
 

rudder

Lifer
Nov 9, 2000
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Read the link.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/09/04/foxs-newest-benghazi-conspiracy-immediately-deb/200654

Like such trivia really matters, anyway. Benghazi! the scandal was a partisan hoax the moment it passed through Mitten's lips.

So what was the hoax? The facility was attacked. The CIA was using the complex to facilitate running weapons to Syrian rebels (who are believed now to have sold Steven Sotloff to ISIS groups) who now make up part of ISIS.

I haven't read much of this whole thread but my guess is it leftwing nuts whining about a republican conspiracy to make obama look bad.... but my God to deny that Benghazi was a significant incident in the continuing turmoil that is the middle east.... well it is just plain Liberal Brain Defectiveness.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Haha, nice. "I don't know what's going in here but I'm sure it's libruls' fault somehow"
 

Jhhnn

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So what was the hoax? The facility was attacked. The CIA was using the complex to facilitate running weapons to Syrian rebels (who are believed now to have sold Steven Sotloff to ISIS groups) who now make up part of ISIS.

I haven't read much of this whole thread but my guess is it leftwing nuts whining about a republican conspiracy to make obama look bad.... but my God to deny that Benghazi was a significant incident in the continuing turmoil that is the middle east.... well it is just plain Liberal Brain Defectiveness.

Lovely bit of speculation in the first paragraph. You couldn't prove a word of it if your life depended on it.

Of course it was a significant event. The Blame Obama! part was the hoax.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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So what was the hoax? The facility was attacked. The CIA was using the complex to facilitate running weapons to Syrian rebels (who are believed now to have sold Steven Sotloff to ISIS groups) who now make up part of ISIS.

I haven't read much of this whole thread but my guess is it leftwing nuts whining about a republican conspiracy to make obama look bad.... but my God to deny that Benghazi was a significant incident in the continuing turmoil that is the middle east.... well it is just plain Liberal Brain Defectiveness.

If you haven't read this whole thread then you haven't been following what's going on so unless you have something to add of value besides your own conspiracies and fact less opinions, how about just shutting the fuck up
 

rudder

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Nov 9, 2000
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If you haven't read this whole thread then you haven't been following what's going on so unless you have something to add of value besides your own conspiracies and fact less opinions, how about just shutting the fuck up

What have I missed? You trying to squeeze your head farther up obamas ass? After 770+ posts in this thread I did not think it could go up any further... so I got one wrong.
 
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