The Benghazi Story goes critical

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fskimospy

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I suspect if that was actually the case we wouldn't have about 800 posts with a lot of them being Libs/Dems trying desperately to convince others that nobody cares.

Also, the polls say otherwise too.

Fern

Actually if you look at the polls the Benghazi "scandal" basically never shows up on the list of things Americans care about. The only exception to this is, as usual, the extreme right. For everyone else it effectively doesn't register.
 

fskimospy

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I read it several times and was unable to locate where Americans said they cared about it. I have seen a great number of polls where they ask Americans what issues they care about though and it never shows up.

Was it in the fine print somewhere?

http://www.pollingreport.com/prioriti.htm
According to a June 17 Gallup poll, "In fact, it ranks 189th out of the 224 news events Gallup has measured"since 1991. Only 19% of U.S. adults are following the hearings "very closely," while 57% are following them "not too closely" or "not at all." So yes, if you bring up Benghazi, a bare majority will say, "Sure, let the hearings continue." But a clear majority aren't really paying attention to those hearings.
 

fskimospy

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According to a June 17 Gallup poll, "In fact, it ranks 189th out of the 224 news events Gallup has measured."since 1991. Only 19% of U.S. adults are following the hearings "very closely," while 57% are following them "not too closely" or "not at all." So yes, if you bring up Benghazi, a bare majority will say, "Sure, let the hearings continue." But a clear majority aren't really paying attention to those hearings.

And I would love to see what their cross tabs are on that question by party id or ideology. My guess? Basically all conservatives.

When you spend too much time in the right wing media bubble it's easy to think that the rest of the country thinks the same way because it's all you hear.
 

Fern

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I read it several times and was unable to locate where Americans said they cared about it. I have seen a great number of polls where they ask Americans what issues they care about though and it never shows up.

Was it in the fine print somewhere?

http://www.pollingreport.com/prioriti.htm

I think the 1st paragraph is instructive:

Around half [51%] the public says they support another congressional investigation into the Benghazi attack, according to a new national poll.

The reason?

The ABC News/Washington Post survey indicates that nearly six in ten say the Obama administration has tried to cover up the facts on the September 11, 2012 attack, which left U.S. ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and three other Americans dead.

Fern
 

werepossum

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According to a June 17 Gallup poll, "In fact, it ranks 189th out of the 224 news events Gallup has measured"since 1991. Only 19% of U.S. adults are following the hearings "very closely," while 57% are following them "not too closely" or "not at all." So yes, if you bring up Benghazi, a bare majority will say, "Sure, let the hearings continue." But a clear majority aren't really paying attention to those hearings.

I think the 1st paragraph is instructive:

Fern
I can quite simply explain this apparent dichotomy where 51% want more Congressional hearings on something that 57% are following "not too closely" or "not at all."

If Congress is investigating Benghazi, then it is somewhat less likely to reduce our liberty, start a war, or raise taxes. If we can't send the whole Congress to play golf with the First Duffer, by all means let them investigate Benghazi.
 

boomerang

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The thread that refuses to die
The first open hearing of the select Benghazi Committee is tomorrow so I fully expect this thread will continue. With the reporting of selective submission of documents to the Accountability Review Board after filtering by Hillary's top echelon the outcome of the investigation could be huge. We have the potential for exposure of a conspiracy of proportions not seen for decades. The kind that can scuttle a presidential candidacy.

Those that wish it would just go away can continue to wish for it but they are going to continue to be disappointed. It's obvious to anyone that spends any time here how enormous the implications of the investigation are by the tremendous amount of gnashing of teeth in this thread by the left.

As someone once said, 'the left always let's you know what they are afraid of'. Their fears in this case are justified. The disclosures by Raymond Maxwell have turned this investigation from one I deemed to be a dead end to one that has enormous implications. Thank goodness we still have some patriots among us.
 

Jhhnn

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The first open hearing of the select Benghazi Committee is tomorrow so I fully expect this thread will continue. With the reporting of selective submission of documents to the Accountability Review Board after filtering by Hillary's top echelon the outcome of the investigation could be huge. We have the potential for exposure of a conspiracy of proportions not seen for decades. The kind that can scuttle a presidential candidacy.

Those that wish it would just go away can continue to wish for it but they are going to continue to be disappointed. It's obvious to anyone that spends any time here how enormous the implications of the investigation are by the tremendous amount of gnashing of teeth in this thread by the left.

As someone once said, 'the left always let's you know what they are afraid of'. Their fears in this case are justified. The disclosures by Raymond Maxwell have turned this investigation from one I deemed to be a dead end to one that has enormous implications. Thank goodness we still have some patriots among us.

Nice leap of Faith! Right on target!

So far, we have one guy making some very provocative rather than informative statements, carefully phrased, as well. He never said that he witnessed documents being removed, merely alludes to the idea that somebody told him they might be.

Proof Positive, Of Course! Of what, nobody's quite sure & fewer even care. Great conspiracy theory fodder for the Faithful, no doubt.
 

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Nobody gives two shits about Benghazi with the exception of right wing wackers. At this point, it's just a hopeless attempt defeat Hillary in 2016 because the GOP has no viable candidates.

This.

2 years later and conservatives cannot point to a single solitary shred of new verifiable evidence voters should give to shits about.
 

fskimospy

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I think the 1st paragraph is instructive:



Fern

Not particularly, as almost nobody lists it as something they care about and almost nobody follows it closely outside of the extreme right.

Look at the cross tabs. You're living in the right wing bubble.
 

rudder

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I read it several times and was unable to locate where Americans said they cared about it. I have seen a great number of polls where they ask Americans what issues they care about though and it never shows up.

Was it in the fine print somewhere?

http://www.pollingreport.com/prioriti.htm

Benghazi is a non issue to most liberal voters. As long as it does not affect the free shit coming from Washington... it is a non-issue. Yet here we are about to bomb some of the very same groups in Syria that the U.S. was using to oust Assad. And yes, it is related to Benghazi.
 

Jhhnn

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Benghazi is a non issue to most liberal voters. As long as it does not affect the free shit coming from Washington... it is a non-issue. Yet here we are about to bomb some of the very same groups in Syria that the U.S. was using to oust Assad. And yes, it is related to Benghazi.

It very likely doesn't have a damned thing to do with the attack on the consulate or the confusion afterwards. There's certainly no evidence that it does, regardless of whatever else might have been going on at the time.

Free shit? You mean the free shit provided by blue states to red states with federal money? I'm looking at you, Mississippi...
 
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Matt1970

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If Congress is investigating Benghazi, then it is somewhat less likely to reduce our liberty, start a war, or raise taxes. If we can't send the whole Congress to play golf with the First Duffer, by all means let them investigate Benghazi.

It's pretty sad that we need to keep congress distracted so as not to get the shaft by the latest piece of legislation meant to fix something.
 

DominionSeraph

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Benghazi is a non issue to most liberal voters. As long as it does not affect the free shit coming from Washington... it is a non-issue.

Yup, Democrats fighting for our Constitutional rights, protecting us from tribalistic neanderthals who believe that inalienable rights are only held by White Christian males and that others' rights only exist insofar as White Christian males agree they do, is a little more important than the faux scandal that a dictatorial communist Muslim from Kenya single-handedly attacked the consulate at Benghazi.

I bet you also believe that Bill Clinton took Vince Foster out to a park and shot him. Unless Rush has gotten around to accusing Hillary, in which case you now believe that.
 
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Matt1970

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Yup, Democrats fighting for our Constitutional rights, protecting us from tribalistic neanderthals who believe that inalienable rights are only held by White Christian males and that others' rights only exist insofar as White Christian males agree they do, is a little more important than the faux scandal that a dictatorial communist Muslim from Kenya single-handedly attacked the consulate at Benghazi.

I bet you also believe that Bill Clinton took Vince Foster out to a park and shot him. Unless Rush has gotten around to accusing Hillary, in which case you now believe that.

Except for the 2nd and 4th amendment, but those aren't really important now are they?
 

ivwshane

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Except for the 2nd and 4th amendment, but those aren't really important now are they?

The 2nd amendment? There may be a few gun grabbers but it's not the party mantra. The 4th? I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about there. I've never seen a "liberal" advocate for a better armed police force in order to do no knock warrants and I've certainly never seen a "liberal" advocating stop and frisk policies and as far as I know, it's only been the left that has been calling for an end or at least oversight of federal surveillance.

So which rights is the right fighting for? Oh, just the 2nd amendment? I guess all the other rights don't matter.

Your cock gobbling for the right wing never ceases to amaze me.
 

Matt1970

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The 2nd amendment? There may be a few gun grabbers but it's not the party mantra. The 4th? I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about there. I've never seen a "liberal" advocate for a better armed police force in order to do no knock warrants and I've certainly never seen a "liberal" advocating stop and frisk policies and as far as I know, it's only been the left that has been calling for an end or at least oversight of federal surveillance.

So which rights is the right fighting for? Oh, just the 2nd amendment? I guess all the other rights don't matter.

Your cock gobbling for the right wing never ceases to amaze me.

Ever hear of the NSA? And no, the 2nd amendment isn't the party mantra except right after every shooting incident that grabs the publics attention. My cock gobbling? I thought you libs were all for gay right, certainly you wouldn't use a homosexual act in a derogatory fashion.
 

GarfieldtheCat

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The first open hearing of the select Benghazi Committee is tomorrow so I fully expect this thread will continue. With the reporting of selective submission of documents to the Accountability Review Board after filtering by Hillary's top echelon the outcome of the investigation could be huge. We have the potential for exposure of a conspiracy of proportions not seen for decades. The kind that can scuttle a presidential candidacy.

Those that wish it would just go away can continue to wish for it but they are going to continue to be disappointed. It's obvious to anyone that spends any time here how enormous the implications of the investigation are by the tremendous amount of gnashing of teeth in this thread by the left.

As someone once said, 'the left always let's you know what they are afraid of'. Their fears in this case are justified. The disclosures by Raymond Maxwell have turned this investigation from one I deemed to be a dead end to one that has enormous implications. Thank goodness we still have some patriots among us.

So this report, from the House Committee, isn't enough for oyu?

So tell us, just how were the Republicans on that committee so incompetent that they did not find anything wrong?

Either you have to believe the report, or believe they are idiots and are lying. Which is it?
 

GarfieldtheCat

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Here is what Fern, Matt1970, and boomerang are getting their "info" (I use the term loosely, since they are more lies then information)

Link

Faux News and their "coverage"

Key Findings

1,098 total Fox News evening segments that included significant discussion of Benghazi -- an average of about 13 segments per week
In 18 of 20 months studied, Fox ran at least 20 Benghazi segments per month, with a high of 174 in October 2012
382 segments aired on Special Report, the network's flagship news program
478 segments invoked the talking points used for Susan Rice's 2012 Sunday show appearances
281 segments alleging a "cover-up" by the Obama administration
144 interviews of GOP members of Congress versus only five interviews of Democratic members of Congress and Obama administration officials
120 comparisons to Iran-Contra, Watergate, and the actions of the Nixon administration
105 attempts to link Benghazi to Hillary Clinton's potential presidential ambitions
100 segments promoting the lie that the administration issued a "stand-down order"

So fair and balanced? LOL
 
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