The Benghazi Story goes critical

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cabri

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Yeah, except it's not showing up in any meaningful way in the polls. People will chose HRC because the Repub alternative still looks too batshit crazy ATM.
Polls show she is slipping compared to a few months ago.

People are starting to pay attention to the attitude of prima donna
 

fskimospy

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Polls show she is slipping compared to a few months ago.

People are starting to pay attention to the attitude of prima donna

Hillary Clinton's favorable ratings decline is almost entirely due to Republicans deciding once again that they don't like her. When she was Secretary of State she was viewed out of the partisan political lens. Now that she's running for president the same people who liked her before now feel like they have to dislike her because she's on the wrong political sports team.

It was entirely predictable, and indeed was predicted about two years ago when she resigned as SoS.
 

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Lifer
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Polls show she is slipping compared to a few months ago.

People are starting to pay attention to the attitude of prima donna

Polls say you are hopelessly optimistic:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Easily ahead of every Republican in the field, and she's essentially both not talking to the press and hasn't even started to paint her GOP rivals negatively yet, a bad sign for them given almost all of them have low name ID.

All signs point to POTUS HRC.
 

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Lifer
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Everyone can find a number to back up their opinion.

O rly, find some for yourself and get back to me.

And it's numbers, plural, btw. As in nearly 100% of the numbers show her in the lead.

 
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werepossum

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Polls say you are hopelessly optimistic:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Easily ahead of every Republican in the field, and she's essentially both not talking to the press and hasn't even started to paint her GOP rivals negatively yet, a bad sign for them given almost all of them have low name ID.

All signs point to POTUS HRC.
Hillary doesn't have to paint her GOP rivals negatively; she has virtually the entire press (and through the primary season, the other GOP contenders, and they are legion in every sense of the word) to do that for her. The less people see her, the more they like her, and vice versa.
 

Jhhnn

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Hillary doesn't have to paint her GOP rivals negatively; she has virtually the entire press (and through the primary season, the other GOP contenders, and they are legion in every sense of the word) to do that for her. The less people see her, the more they like her, and vice versa.

It's called message control. She has it & the Repub hopefuls have just the opposite.

They have to distinguish themselves from the pack. Other than Jeb, they all seem eager to shoot their mouths off. And we ain't seen nothin' yet.

She's well known, her general political bent obvious. She's a third way Democrat, more like Repubs than many in the party would like. That's a big boost w/ swing voters, however. She's survived a multitude of trumped up scandals & whispering campaigns, so she's savvy enough not to give 'em much ammunition.

Therefore, she'll mostly sit back atm & enjoy the show.

Jeb might have a nomination winning strategy- forget the primaries for the most part, roll out a seemingly sane message at the convention, which might be a real doozie. Everybody gets behind Jeb because he's the only guy not standing on his dick in his golf shoes.
 

sportage

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Just imagine Hillary up there on stage against Jeb.
Or Hillary up there against a Rubio.
When I think of Marco I go back to that image of Marco sneaking away like some shifty eyed purse snatcher grabbing his bottled water fix.
The same sneaky shifty eyed Marco look that as president Marco would give us as he rapes the middle class into extinction.
The same shifty eyed as he helps himself to your social security.
Helps himself to your pension.
Helps himself to sending your son and daughter off to war in foreign lands.
And that same shifty eyed look as he helps himself to your pocket book.
Richard Nixon could take shifty eye lessons from Mr Marco.
 

werepossum

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It's called message control. She has it & the Repub hopefuls have just the opposite.

They have to distinguish themselves from the pack. Other than Jeb, they all seem eager to shoot their mouths off. And we ain't seen nothin' yet.

She's well known, her general political bent obvious. She's a third way Democrat, more like Repubs than many in the party would like. That's a big boost w/ swing voters, however. She's survived a multitude of trumped up scandals & whispering campaigns, so she's savvy enough not to give 'em much ammunition.

Therefore, she'll mostly sit back atm & enjoy the show.

Jeb might have a nomination winning strategy- forget the primaries for the most part, roll out a seemingly sane message at the convention, which might be a real doozie. Everybody gets behind Jeb because he's the only guy not standing on his dick in his golf shoes.
Maybe, although he is the big elephant in the room full of little elephants, so all the other potentials are or will be targeting him. And I can't see him winning the general. His only issues in common with the base are social conservatism, which alienates at least as many people as it inspires, and his only real appeal outside the base is a reasonable though hardly inspiring performance as governor and not being Hillary. Much as I despise Hillary, I don't see that he brings much to the party of any use to moderates and to South Park Republicans like me. And for a country where political dynasties should be anathema, Bush #3 is 50% worse than Clinton #2. Add to that a captive press for whomever is the Dem nominee and Jeb has a slew of negative factors and only one real positive - he's not Hillary. I don't think that works unless the press is behind it, and the press is going to be pushing Hillary even if they never actually get to talk with her.
 

Zorkorist

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Yeah, that's not OK.

She had the responsibility of these folks safety.

She failed them.

-John
 

werepossum

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Yeah, that's not OK.

She had the responsibility of these folks safety.

She failed them.

-John
I suspect the SecState does not personally arrange security. Except her own.

Must have been a reason Stevens had less security than an ambassador in Paris. Maybe it was simply relying on the CIA camp, but I doubt it was nefarious.
 

werepossum

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Copied from my post in another thread: Here's a list of U.S. diplomats killed on the job:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/05/us/us-diplomats-attacked/
Yeah, it's a dangerous world. Gotta go back more than thirty years since the last ambassador we lost though.

The good guys are never going to win 100%. If we insisted on that level of security we could accomplish nothing. Whatever the reason for the paltry security, the people in charge must have considered it an acceptable risk.
 

Jaskalas

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How sad.

I didn't even know people were still pumping on this old bullshit.

If Clinton stays awake on stage long enough to be nominated, we'll even sell Benghazi t-shirts for the general election.

Yeah, it's a dangerous world. Gotta go back more than thirty years since the last ambassador we lost though.

The good guys are never going to win 100%. If we insisted on that level of security we could accomplish nothing. Whatever the reason for the paltry security, the people in charge must have considered it an acceptable risk.

When orchestrating arms shipments for terrorists in Syria, it's best to keep a low profile. No one would have known about the trip except for the attack.
 

gdansk

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My old man's been going on about Benghazi for years and I still don't get it. We blame an American because a 150 jihadi attacked and killed a large number of US diplomatic staff? What is the expected response?
 

trenchfoot

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I was gonna describe an analogy of how the Repub Congress critters flogging this skeleton of a dead donkey is like how flies are attracted to a fresh steaming pile of doggie-doo and getting frantically excited to lay their eggs on it and then revel in the expectation of having hundreds of maggots popping out of it, but my better judgement prevailed and I decided not to.
 
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Jhhnn

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If Clinton stays awake on stage long enough to be nominated, we'll even sell Benghazi t-shirts for the general election.

Or save money by wearing your old "Where's the birth certificate?" shirts. Either one merely identifies the wearer as mentally defective.

When orchestrating arms shipments for terrorists in Syria, it's best to keep a low profile. No one would have known about the trip except for the attack.

Throw in a little scurrilous speculation as fact- it's expected behavior from anybody wearing a Birther T-shirt. End with a reasonable statement to soften the image of raging zealotry.
 

trenchfoot

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Or save money by wearing your old "Where's the birth certificate?" shirts. Either one merely identifies the wearer as mentally defective.



Throw in a little scurrilous speculation as fact- it's expected behavior from anybody wearing a Birther T-shirt. End with a reasonable statement to soften the image of raging zealotry.

I swear FOX and all of those other wacko right wing media outlets have been subliminally infecting their loyal and faithful audiences with a "root kit" as it were that reflexively forces their audience to become deaf dumb and blind toward any and all evidence that factually contradicts the lies, innuendo and truthies that they flood the media with.
 
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