The Benghazi Story goes critical

[shira]

Republicans have spent ""millions"" of tax payers dollars on a failed political agenda.
Maybe democrats have done similar, but no one does it better than a republican.

This just hurts republicans. And will come back to bite them in the butt.
And in the long run, Hillary will not only survive, but actually gain credibility as election day approaches.
But this is why republicans keep losing.
They really hold all the cards, have all the odds in their favor, they have stacked the deck to ensure they come out ahead, they control two thirds of the government, and despite all this republicans STILL shoot themselves in the foot time after time.
Which proves quite clearly that republicans are incapable of running the government yet alone winning the presidency.

This massive failure is so apparent that it is no wonder Donald Trump can get away with leading the pack.
Mass hysteria, mass confusion, mass delusion thrives within the republican party.
How they recover is or would be a miracle in itself.
Then you have Jeb Bush. And Jeb must be asking himself daily W...T...F... is going on ???
"This wasn't suppose to happen. I was supposedly the golden child. The rewards of politics was mine for the taking. STELLA!!!! STELLAAAAAAAAA!!!!"

This suggests a wonderful response that Planned Parenthood head Cecile Richards could have given in response to questions about her allegedly-inflated salary.

"Your compensation in 2009 was $353,000," Chaffetz said to Richards. "Congratulations. In 2013, your compensation went up some $240,000. Your compensation, we're showing based on tax returns, is $590,000."

To which Richards could have replied: "Well, if you paid my salary with some of the money spent on your Benghazi investigations, it would be a real win-win, wouldn't it? Remind me, Chairman Chaffetz, exactly how many millions of dollars of taxpayer money have you spent investigating Benghazi so far, and what damning information have you discovered as a result? I seem to recall a figure of at least $20 million. Does that sound correct to you?"

 

[werepossum]

By all means shows us equivilant investigations done by dems. I'm curious to see what you come up with.

Google "the oversight congress". When the Dems took Congress, the 110th Congress launched dozens of investigations against Bush and anyone appointed by Bush, including the firing of several attorneys General even though Clinton had taken the unprecedented step of firing EVERY attorney general as soon as he took office, including those currently investigating Friends of Bill. There's the investigation of Bork that gave us a new verb, the investigation of Thomas where Democrats told us with straight faces that the severity of the charges was more important than the evidence, the investigation of Plame's name where the investigators knew within two weeks that an anti-war career State employee had leaked her name and had broken no laws in doing so but continued the investigation until he could charge someone for claiming not to remember a conversation. Take your pick.

 

[ivwshane]

Google "the oversight congress". When the Dems took Congress, the 110th Congress launched dozens of investigations against Bush and anyone appointed by Bush, including the firing of several attorneys General even though Clinton had taken the unprecedented step of firing EVERY attorney general as soon as he took office, including those currently investigating Friends of Bill. There's the investigation of Bork that gave us a new verb, the investigation of Thomas where Democrats told us with straight faces that the severity of the charges was more important than the evidence, the investigation of Plame's name where the investigators knew within two weeks that an anti-war career State employee had leaked her name and had broken no laws in doing so but continued the investigation until he could charge someone for claiming not to remember a conversation. Take your pick.

What exactly should I be looking at?

http://cybercemetery.unt.edu/archive/cop/20110401223225/http://cop.senate.gov/reports/

Looks like the firing of AG's goes back to saint Reagan who fired 89 of 93.

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/mar/23/nation/na-talking23

The rest, like the majority of your posts when it's about the party (dem or repub), is more speculation and innuendo devoid of actual cold hard facts.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2007/03/16/myths-and-falsehoods-in-the-us-attorney-scandal/138315

 

[ivwshane]

Hey at least the title of this thread finally matches reality! Unfortunately for the OP, going "critical" means it's in life support.

 

[Jaskalas]

Hey at least the title of this thread finally matches reality! Unfortunately for the OP, going "critical" means it's in life support.

For me? I made the OP in response to us arming Syrian terrorists. Go ahead and re-read it. Which, btw, is something that remains this administration's official policy to this day. To the point where they're risking a cold war over it.

So which ignorance do you cling to?
Are you ignorant of the fact that we arm Syrian terrorists, or...
Are you ignorant of the fact that it's a horrible thing?

 

[werepossum]

What exactly should I be looking at?

http://cybercemetery.unt.edu/archive/cop/20110401223225/http://cop.senate.gov/reports/

Looks like the firing of AG's goes back to saint Reagan who fired 89 of 93.

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/mar/23/nation/na-talking23

The rest, like the majority of your posts when it's about the party (dem or repub), is more speculation and innuendo devoid of actual cold hard facts.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2007/03/16/myths-and-falsehoods-in-the-us-attorney-scandal/138315

Lol Don't waste your energy, dude. There is literally nothing that can penetrate your bubble. Just look at the bright side: for you, politics and voting will take zero clock cycles.

 

[ivwshane]

Lol Don't waste your energy, dude. There is literally nothing that can penetrate your bubble. Just look at the bright side: for you, politics and voting will take zero clock cycles.

Nothing as in you haven't posted anything? Yeah I don't typically change my mind on things because of something someone said on the internet who provided no evidence to back their claim, do you? That was a rhetorical question, we all know you don't change your mind regardless if facts are provided.

 

[ivwshane]

For me? I made the OP in response to us arming Syrian terrorists. Go ahead and re-read it. Which, btw, is something that remains this administration's official policy to this day. To the point where they're risking a cold war over it.

So which ignorance do you cling to?
Are you ignorant of the fact that we arm Syrian terrorists, or...
Are you ignorant of the fact that it's a horrible thing?

None of which has to do with clinton and the deaths of the Americans in benhgazi.

Also, you have yet to prove anything with regards to your claims about arms smuggling. And let's say you did have proof, so what? Is it illegal? Is it being done behind congress' back? What exactly are you implying?

So which do you cling to? Ignorance or speculation or is that republicans couldn't care less because benghazi is a political investigation and nothing more?

Your thread is dying and in critical condition, quick! Add some more bullshit to the fire, it can't stink any worse than it is.

 

[Newell Steamer]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/30/politics/kevin-mccarthy-benghazi-committee-speaker/index.html

Oof!

I honestly feel sorry for the GOP. This is like a sick animal sticking it's neck out begging to be ripped into and put out of its misery.

 

[LegendKiller]

Libby's conviction is questionable? According to who? A right wing shill who cites a journalist who pushed the bush admin narrative for going into Iraq? I guess Libby's conviction by a jury was just another conspiracy right?

"Among others"

Such as? Maybe you can find one where no wrong doing was ever found?

Oh and btw, the plame investigation was conducted by a special prosecutor recommended by the CIA and FBI, who as I'm sure you are well aware of fell under the bush admins control. So I'm curious how this was a "dem" investigation.

Are you saying juries have never been wtong, or misled?

Again, I thought it was established that she was not covert, or at least really skewed that way. I could be wrong but there seems to be a lot of evidence the other way.

Fitzgerald wasn't prodded along by waxman?

 

[Jaskalas]

None of which has to do with clinton and the deaths of the Americans in benhgazi.

Also, you have yet to prove anything with regards to your claims about arms smuggling. And let's say you did have proof, so what? Is it illegal? Is it being done behind congress' back? What exactly are you implying?

I already did.

Denying an action which our government openly did months later...

It stretches credibility to think we weren't covertly doing exactly what we wanted, months before we came out to profess our intent. This is after Libya fell, after Obama's "red line" for Syria. Obama wanted Assad to fall next, and blood had already begun spilling in Syria. Coincidence?

We were involved in sending arms to Syria in 2012.

Benghazi is a known African hub for funneling weapons into Syria.

The Red Line and the Rat Line
Seymour M. Hersh on Obama, Erdoğan and the Syrian rebels

How long will you refuse to add this up?

 

[Bowfinger]

Are you saying juries have never been wtong, or misled?

Of course they are. They absolutely blew it on Citizens United.

Again, I thought it was established that she was not covert, or at least really skewed that way. I could be wrong ...

You are. Both Fitzgerald and an official CIA spokesman stated that Plame was still classified when she was exposed. Moreover, she had been overseas as a NOC working on WMD analysis, and the front company she used as her cover was exposed. That meant her overseas contacts were exposed, and anyone else using her front company was exposed.

 

[Jhhnn]

Google "the oversight congress". When the Dems took Congress, the 110th Congress launched dozens of investigations against Bush and anyone appointed by Bush, including the firing of several attorneys General even though Clinton had taken the unprecedented step of firing EVERY attorney general as soon as he took office, including those currently investigating Friends of Bill. There's the investigation of Bork that gave us a new verb, the investigation of Thomas where Democrats told us with straight faces that the severity of the charges was more important than the evidence, the investigation of Plame's name where the investigators knew within two weeks that an anti-war career State employee had leaked her name and had broken no laws in doing so but continued the investigation until he could charge someone for claiming not to remember a conversation. Take your pick.

You do lean on the bullshit asymmetry principle very hard. When the going gets tough,toss as much shit against the wall as you can, hope some of it sticks.

All of that happened before Benghazi, putting the tweaks on rightwing headsets so that they'll believe almost anything.

Libby? Even Dubya acknowledged his guilt-

In commuting Libby's prison term, Bush stated: "I am commuting the portion of Mr. Libby's sentence that required him to spend thirty months in prison. ... My decision to commute his prison sentence leaves in place a harsh punishment for Mr. Libby. The reputation he gained through his years of public service and professional work in the legal community is forever damaged."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooter_Libby

Fitzgerald is a meticulous prosecutor who built a bulletproof case against Libby. He didn't charge Rove, for example, because he couldn't build that kind of case due to Libby's obstruction & that of others as well.

As has been noted, Novak couldn't publish his story w/o credible confirmation which he got from the Bush White House at a time highly convenient for their purposes of discrediting Plame's husband.

The rest of your commentary is no better, just the touchstones of erroneous right wing belief.

The 110th Congress did not engage in "dozens" of political witch hunts.

Robert Bork was an extreme right ideologue that moderate Repubs could not support so his nomination failed. Back then, there really were moderate Repubs.

Clarence Thomas is a token appointment, the perfect Uncle Tom. The notion that he could match the towering intellect of his predecessor, Thurgood Marshall, is completely absurd.

It's customary for a new president to replace all US Attorneys when taking office. It's not customary to replace them half way through because they won't toe the line over the voter fraud flimflam.

As I've said many times, rightwing headsets were benghazied long before Benghazi.

 

[ivwshane]

I already did.

Finish reading my post. Thanks

 

[Newell Steamer]

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/benghazi-clinton-house-republicans-mccarthy-214441

The GOP used the deaths of Americans they claimed to be seeking retribution for, just to smear Clinton.

Disgraceful.

Lie after lie after lie. Manipulation. Sensationalism. And now, revealing they exploited the very deaths they claimed to seek answers for.

OP should be ashamed as well for not clearing up the "facts" he pretended to be presenting.

 

[Jaskalas]

Finish reading my post. Thanks

Right... the part where you fully vouch for arming Syrian terrorists.

 

[werepossum]

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/benghazi-clinton-house-republicans-mccarthy-214441

The GOP used the deaths of Americans they claimed to be seeking retribution for, just to smear Clinton.

Disgraceful.

Lie after lie after lie. Manipulation. Sensationalism. And now, revealing they exploited the very deaths they claimed to seek answers for.

OP should be ashamed as well for not clearing up the "facts" he pretended to be presenting.

Good thing for the Dems that they have such an intelligent, articulate, level-headed person as yourself to make their case here, eh?

 

[Jhhnn]

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/benghazi-clinton-house-republicans-mccarthy-214441

The GOP used the deaths of Americans they claimed to be seeking retribution for, just to smear Clinton.

Disgraceful.

Lie after lie after lie. Manipulation. Sensationalism. And now, revealing they exploited the very deaths they claimed to seek answers for.

OP should be ashamed as well for not clearing up the "facts" he pretended to be presenting.

Anybody with a lick of sense knew that was true when they saw the smirk on Mitt's face leaving the podium after his slime attack.

The rest? It's the Repub base begging to be mind fucked & their leadership giving them what they want.

 

[HomerJS]

Just like Republicans deny voter ID was implemented to disenfranchise voters and stick to "voter fraud" lie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuOT1bRYdK8

It takes a real psychopath to convince ones self a lie is the truth

 

[Newell Steamer]

Good thing for the Dems that they have such an intelligent, articulate, level-headed person as yourself to make their case here, eh?

They don't need me, most of the GOP's shit stinks from miles away.

But, you keep trying to shoo that stench towards the Democrats - how's that working for you?

 

[Newell Steamer]

And now it begins to crack and crumble; http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/gops-benghazi-committee-starts-unravel

 

[Newell Steamer]

http://www.thenation.com/article/tr...-his-partisan-benghazi-committee-is-partisan/

GOP member is altering e-mails now.

 

[boomerang]

I see the anxiety level is peaking today. I see nothing to be concerned about. Hillary is a masterful liar plus, I don't expect Gowdy to play hardball with her. With the possibility of her becoming POTUS, he knows better than to poke the bear too hard.

 

[thraashman]

I see the anxiety level is peaking today. I see nothing to be concerned about. Hillary is a masterful liar plus, I don't expect Gowdy to play hardball with her. With the possibility of her becoming POTUS, he knows better than to poke the bear too hard.

What anxiety? At this point the Republicans on the Benghazi committee have broken more laws than Hillary.

 

[Newell Steamer]

What anxiety? At this point the Republicans on the Benghazi committee have broken more laws than Hillary.

Let him spin; hopefully his head will come off.