The Benghazi Story goes critical

[ivwshane]

Lol. Umadbro?

Why would I be mad? I'm not the one crying about breaking the rules.


You sad bro?

 

[thraashman]

Yeah, Keep calling me names thinking your a tough guy on an internet forum.

I don't believe I called you a name. I indeed called Ted Cruz a jackass, but as far as yourself I simply was identifying that your ranting using semi-coherent thoughts and bad logic was perfectly in line with Ted Cruz. And that since your posting drives 99% of P&N away from your point of view (like 97% was already there), that it'd be fantastic to have you be a mouthpiece for a politician I think is very harmful to this nation.

 

[TerryMathews]

Why would I be mad? I'm not the one crying about breaking the rules.


You sad bro?

I also made a point which you disregarded rather than reply to.

 

[Angry Irishman]

You are already drinking the kool-aid as evidenced by your reply.

Typical response....if I am drinking Kool Aid it's just another flavor from yours.

 

[Incorruptible]

I don't believe I called you a name. I indeed called Ted Cruz a jackass, but as far as yourself I simply was identifying that your ranting using semi-coherent thoughts and bad logic was perfectly in line with Ted Cruz. And that since your posting drives 99% of P&N away from your point of view (like 97% was already there), that it'd be fantastic to have you be a mouthpiece for a politician I think is very harmful to this nation.

Fair enough, I thought you were talking about me.

What's wrong with Ted Cruz? He supports the Constitution and believes in freedom. He was smart enough to support the filibuster against obama for the drone issue. Doesn't sound like a jackass to me. What you're doing is partisan name calling.

How is he a jackass but people like pelosi and reid and obama aren't?

 

[ivwshane]

Typical response....if I am drinking Kool Aid it's just another flavor from yours.

Sorry I don't dismiss facts as laughable.

 

[ivwshane]

I also made a point which you disregarded rather than reply to.

Nope, I addressed your reply and both questions you asked.

 

[monovillage]

lol. Dems pray Repubs make a stink about Benghazi during the 2016 election. Worked great for them in the 2012 election, will work even better in 2016, when no one who matters will still care.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/whistle_past_the_graveyard

We'll see if you're whistling the same tune after the 2014 Senate elections.

 

[First]

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/whistle_past_the_graveyard

We'll see if you're whistling the same tune after the 2014 Senate elections.

Like in 2012?

Herp a derp.

 

[monovillage]

Like in 2012?

Herp a derp.

You mean before all the scandals of this administration really hit the press?
BTW Senators serve a 6 year term so their elections rotate on a 2 year cycle. The Senators up for election in 2014 aren't the same ones from 2012....... just thought you should know it.

 

[First]

You mean before all the scandals of this administration really hit the press?

...Benghazi attack occurring September 11th, 2012...

Whatever you gotta tell yourself.

Btw, Gallup has Obama's approval back to +1 despite NSA and IRS scandals this year. Eat it up, kid.

BTW Senators serve a 6 year term so their elections rotate on a 2 year cycle. The Senators up for election in 2014 aren't the same ones from 2012....... just thought you should know it.

Haha. 2012 Senate map was very favorable to Repubs, widely believed they could have picked up half a dozen seats...instead they lost 2 seats. They have to gain 6 seats in 2014 to take a 1 seat majority, as 5 will give tiebreaker to Biden and 2016's map already looks bad for Senate Repubs, especially during a presidential year where Repubs will again have not a single sane candidate unless Christie runs.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Btw, Gallup has Obama's approval back to +1 despite NSA and IRS scandals this year. Eat it up, kid.

If this is what makes you sleep well at night...well, you're a sad person.
Gallup +1
Rasmussen Reports -3
Reuters/Ipsos -11
The Economist/YouGov -9

 

[monovillage]

...Benghazi attack occurring September 11th, 2012...

Whatever you gotta tell yourself.

.................

Sept. 11th 2012 ..................Which is why Obama and Clinton lied about it less than a month prior to the election.

 

[First]

If this is what makes you sleep well at night...well, you're a sad person.
Gallup +1
Rasmussen Reports -3
Reuters/Ipsos -11
The Economist/YouGov -9

Being a negative 5 points underwater is not uncommon for a 2nd term POTUS in the summer. It's actually exceedingly consistent, and that's with nothing but bad news for the administration since May. His numbers are encouraging if you follow statistics, well, at all.

Sept. 11th 2012 ..................Which is why Obama and Clinton lied about it less than a month prior to the election.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

 

[Jhhnn]

Laugh all you want. It's over 11 months later, the American public still doesn't have the answers it wants

So, uhh, hearing what you want to hear is the most important thing, right?

That's been obvious with every trumped up Issa scandal you could possibly rave about.

Hillary's chances? None of this will make much difference, other than to help hold the faithful in thrall. Keeping them in an irrational emotional state is of the utmost importance. Without that, they might actually start thinking, which would be the death knell of the Repub party.

 

[Angry Irishman]

Sorry I don't dismiss facts as laughable.

Then you're very gullible. Do you trust everything you see and read? Half truths and diversions don't constitute facts. And again, there has been no accountability to date; but hey, it's only someones sons that are dead.

 

[ivwshane]

Then you're very gullible. Do you trust everything you see and read? Half truths and diversions don't constitute facts. And again, there has been no accountability to date; but hey, it's only someones sons that are dead.

Half truths and diversions? According to who? No accountability? No one was put on leave? No one was removed from their position? There has been accountability, you just don't like how they were held accountable, you are more concerned with someone being fired or thrown in jail than making sure a similar situation doesn't occur again.

Again, all you and the other righty nut bags want are outcomes you agree with. The problem is that you have zero qualifications to determine what that outcome should be and any action or finding that doesn't match up to your expectations are labled half truths and diversions. What facts do you have to support your claims? Your guy? Get the fuck out of here!

 

[Angry Irishman]

Half truths and diversions? According to who? No accountability? No one was put on leave? No one was removed from their position? There has been accountability, you just don't like how they were held accountable, you are more concerned with someone being fired or thrown in jail than making sure a similar situation doesn't occur again.

Again, all you and the other righty nut bags want are outcomes you agree with. The problem is that you have zero qualifications to determine what that outcome should be and any action or finding that doesn't match up to your expectations are labled half truths and diversions. What facts do you have to support your claims? Your guy? Get the fuck out of here!

Again, again, again.....your goal and statements are political in nature; to support your left leaning agendas and to continue the crusade against the "righty" nut bags. The difference between you and me is I put justice and REAL accountability before the agendas of some political stance or party. As I've stated many times I could care less what party was at the helm, I'd expect the same accountability as would most Americans.

You're correct no one was held accountable to include those most obviously accountable the Sec of State and her boss. You're damn right I don't like how they or anyone else weren't held accountable but a bullshit govt report should suffice...right? I don't need to be "qualified" to understand the concept and expectation of responsibility/accountability. Putting a few folks on what is basically administrative leave doesn't quite equate to the appropriate level of accountability required given the situation and needless death of Americans all during a political campaign.

If a CEO of a corporation was as irresponsible for a financial disaster (that he'd been warned about ahead of time) he'd be canned...voted right out of his position. Hell, even if it caught him by surprise he'd still be canned. In comparison, Americans get killed by what is arguably pure negligence on the part of the Sec of State which has been highlighted many times throughout this story and no action...nothing. In fact those folks put on leave (oh the horror) are now back to work and the new Sec of State and his boss have proclaimed no one is at blame....how convenient. There can be accountability and action to mitigate this type event happening again. I don't know why you think there has to be one or the other happen.

Please tell me your qualifications.....go on, please do. Oh, that's right, I should just trust those experts in the federal government....my bad. Get the fuck out of here? No, this is my country, I still expect its elected officials be responsible and accountable for their actions good and bad.

Here's one from Fox and one from CNN:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/20/kerry-clears-state-officials-faulted-in-benghazi-report/
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._holding_no_one_responsible_for_benghazi.html

 

[soundforbjt]

Again, again, again.....your goal and statements are political in nature; to support your left leaning agendas and to continue the crusade against the "righty" nut bags. The difference between you and me is I put justice and REAL accountability before the agendas of some political stance or party. As I've stated many times I could care less what party was at the helm, I'd expect the same accountability as would most Americans.

You're correct no one was held accountable to include those most obviously accountable the Sec of State and her boss. You're damn right I don't like how they or anyone else weren't held accountable but a bullshit govt report should suffice...right? I don't need to be "qualified" to understand the concept and expectation of responsibility/accountability. Putting a few folks on what is basically administrative leave doesn't quite equate to the appropriate level of accountability required given the situation and needless death of Americans all during a political campaign.

If a CEO of a corporation was as irresponsible for a financial disaster (that he'd been warned about ahead of time) he'd be canned...voted right out of his position. Hell, even if it caught him by surprise he'd still be canned. In comparison, Americans get killed by what is arguably pure negligence on the part of the Sec of State which has been highlighted many times throughout this story and no action...nothing. In fact those folks put on leave (oh the horror) are now back to work and the new Sec of State and his boss have proclaimed no one is at blame....how convenient. There can be accountability and action to mitigate this type event happening again. I don't know why you think there has to be one or the other happen.

Please tell me your qualifications.....go on, please do. Oh, that's right, I should just trust those experts in the federal government....my bad. Get the fuck out of here? No, this is my country, I still expect its elected officials be responsible and accountable for their actions good and bad.

Here's one from Fox and one from CNN:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/20/kerry-clears-state-officials-faulted-in-benghazi-report/
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._holding_no_one_responsible_for_benghazi.html

How many Wall Street Bank CEO's were fired or put in prison after the crash?

 

[Angry Irishman]

How many Wall Street Bank CEO's were fired or put in prison after the crash?

How many of your elected officials have been held accountable for Americans being dead as a result of negligence? Please don't bring up wars as that's really a different situation.

CEOs spun the financial collapse to their benefit given your question. Stimulus money made that a reality. I think for discussions sake it would be pretty obvious what my point was.

 

[Incorruptible]

How many Wall Street Bank CEO's were fired or put in prison after the crash?

Considering the government was responsible for what happened why weren't any politicians put in prison?

 

[Jhhnn]

I just love all the mock piety over the deaths of 4 Americans from people who supported the invasion of Iraq, where over 4000 Americans were killed to further Neocon delusions of grandeur.

Have you no sense of proportion? No memory? No shame whatsoever?

Where was all the Outrage! when all of this was happening?

http://www.policymic.com/articles/4...nder-president-bush-and-fox-news-said-nothing

Oh, wait- lemme guess.... It wasn't all Obama's fault, right? That makes everything *different*, real different in the sick way that only right wing zealots can embrace.

 

[Angry Irishman]

I just love all the mock piety over the deaths of 4 Americans from people who supported the invasion of Iraq, where over 4000 Americans were killed to further Neocon delusions of grandeur.

Have you no sense of proportion? No memory? No shame whatsoever?

Where was all the Outrage! when all of this was happening?

http://www.policymic.com/articles/4...nder-president-bush-and-fox-news-said-nothing

Oh, wait- lemme guess.... It wasn't all Obama's fault, right? That makes everything *different*, real different in the sick way that only right wing zealots can embrace.

Don't preach to me from your left leaning alter. I was in Iraq and lost friends there as well. I fought with Americans that could give a fuck about yours or the rights political agendas. You can quite simply go to hell regarding your mock piety statement. What have you done for your country other than idol worship an administration and troll an internet forum. There is obviously a fundamental and expected difference between a war situation and what should not have happened at Benghazi.

I wasn't very fond of the Bush administration either. The big difference is how Benghazi just happened to be tied to a political campaign with very poor timing and all of the subsequent back pedaling.
One poster from that article sums it up perfectly:
-Were the talking points changed twelve times?
-Was the word "terrorism" excised from those talking points?
-Did Bush dither calling these incidents acts of terrorism like Obama?
-Did Bush try to cover these incidents up?
-Did the big three ABC, CBS, and NBC cover these events?

There will obviously be no need for accountability from you for negligent inaction as politics apparently is more important to you than the truth or than the burden of responsibility that someone who takes the position of Sec of State or POTUS entails. You and your kind (those who put party priorities above their rights as Americans) will deny, say or do anything to protect the next potential candidate for the Democratic party.

Just can't see the forest for the trees.....

 

[Jhhnn]

Oh, so it's all really just political posturing, centered around the presidential campaign, as I offered. Why don't you just say so?

How did it get to be a campaign issue, anyway? OH, I remember- Mitt made it one, rather desperately, had this look on his face as he walked away after the slime attack-

That's a self satisfied chickenshit smirk, isn't it?

 

[UberNeuman]

I've been out of the loop. Has Benghazi become a scandal yet - or ARE the same jagoffs still pushing it as a SCANDAL.