Not when the imbedded cost of cheaper = welfare costs, crime, education problems, high education debt from retraining...etc.
Germany does quite well with their protectionist policies and mittlestand efforts.
Not when the imbedded cost of cheaper = welfare costs, crime, education problems, high education debt from retraining...etc.Maybe we should be in the business of doing work that is cleaner and safer and not be trying to employ our citizens . I love protections for workers in the US. I actually think we should increase them. That doesn't mean that we should attempt to bunker in our country like North Korea and engage in autarky. China has abundant labor factors. We have abundant technological and capital factors. Let them use theirs as best they can and lets do the same. When we all focus on what we do best we all end up ahead. I simply don't buy the idea that we should make products inefficiently for the purpose of increasing employment.
Cheaper to make = more efficient, by the way. If you can make the same thing for less money it is by definition more efficient.
Maybe we should be in the business of doing work that is cleaner and safer and not be trying to employ our citizens . I love protections for workers in the US. I actually think we should increase them. That doesn't mean that we should attempt to bunker in our country like North Korea and engage in autarky. China has abundant labor factors. We have abundant technological and capital factors. Let them use theirs as best they can and lets do the same. When we all focus on what we do best we all end up ahead. I simply don't buy the idea that we should make products inefficiently for the purpose of increasing employment.
Cheaper to make = more efficient, by the way. If you can make the same thing for less money it is by definition more efficient.
great lets make a plan to allow people to get degrees, certification or other requirements that is a) affordable b) something that will pass congress c) doesn't add a crap ton to debt. Then attach it to the TPP so they pass together.
We'll also need a plan for people affected who are simply too close to retirement and can't effectively learn new skills in a timely manner. We'll need to look at what happens to those industries when a swarm of people are attracted to them. Kind of like web developer in the late 90's to early 2000's.
And the attaching it to the TPP can't be done because its set not to have anything added to it, which raises more suspicion on my part.
Not when the imbedded cost of cheaper = welfare costs, crime, education problems, high education debt from retraining...etc.
Germany does quite well with their protectionist policies and mittlestand efforts.
We should pass that sort of stuff regardless of TPP. TPP won't have much of an effect on that sort of thing either way so why tie the two .
What's the consequence to whom if it does have a negative impact (who will take responsibility)? What will be used to review its progress? What's the realistic action plan if it does hurt jobs & middle income earnings?
Deal is just too risky for me in its current form.
https://www.change.org/p/u-s-citize...-electoral-assistance-from-the-united-nations
Bernouts are mad.
The allegations of election fraud are disturbing, unconscionable that it would happen within the big tent party.
It is very unfortunate that those individuals don't seem to understand why looking at exit poll discrepancies is a basically worthless way to detect election fraud in the US. Such is life!
Repeated here:The U.S. State Dept. says that a discrepancy in exit polls of more than 2% indicates fraud, we have had discrepancies outside of that margin in at least 16 of the state primaries all the way up to a discrepancy of 23%. These discrepancies have only happened in one of our political parties and they have all been in favor of one candidate.
Maybe we should be in the business of doing work that is cleaner and safer and not be trying to employ our citizens . I love protections for workers in the US. I actually think we should increase them. That doesn't mean that we should attempt to bunker in our country like North Korea and engage in autarky. China has abundant labor factors. We have abundant technological and capital factors. Let them use theirs as best they can and lets do the same. When we all focus on what we do best we all end up ahead. I simply don't buy the idea that we should make products inefficiently for the purpose of increasing employment.
Cheaper to make = more efficient, by the way. If you can make the same thing for less money it is by definition more efficient.
Not when the imbedded cost of cheaper = welfare costs, crime, education problems, high education debt from retraining...etc.
Germany does quite well with their protectionist policies and mittlestand efforts.
Odd, they claim that the State Department has rules about that:
Repeated here:
https://m.reddit.com/r/SandersForPr...n_proves_software_stole_votes_in_all_hillary/
Is it true that Hillary was always the beneficiary when there was a disparity with the exit polling? That seems statistically unlikely.
Odd, they claim that the State Department has rules about that:
Repeated here:
https://m.reddit.com/r/SandersForPr...n_proves_software_stole_votes_in_all_hillary/
Is it true that Hillary was always the beneficiary when there was a disparity with the exit polling? That seems statistically unlikely.
You mean that, gasp, some young person voting for the first time and excited about Sanders does not respond to an exit poll at the same exact rate as someone who is older, has a family to get back to, and possibly settled on Clinton? That can't possibly be.Exit polls seem to have hugely oversampled young voters who of course voted for Sanders by large margins. This would create exactly the sort of consistent bias in the exit polls in favor of Sanders that we saw.
It never ceases to amaze me how much people seem to care about TPP considering how little effect it will have on our country overall. I doubt any of you would even notice if it passed or not.
It seems to be more of a reflexive anti-trade attitude which is a long term losing proposition that makes everyone poorer.
If it's nigh impossible to predict the effect of another free trade bill, then it's reasonable to assume that its results will likely be similar to other such free trade bill: cheaper goods, fewer good jobs in America, a further devaluation of American labor, an accompanying increase of dependence on government, and the inevitably linked further loss of individual liberty.
Concern trolls tearing down the dirty Democrats & spreading the FUD. It reeks of conspiracy theory & the thinking behind the right wing persecution complex. It's right in the basic formulation, making it easy to identify where it comes from.
You are confusing the TPP with a free trade bill. Yes, the TPP has some aspect of free trade, but we already have free trade with most of the major powers in the TPP. The TPP is so much more than that. Are you considering the bulk of the TPP, or just that one minor aspect?If it's nigh impossible to predict the effect of another free trade bill, then it's reasonable to assume that its results will likely be similar to other such free trade bill
So your theory is that I'm a crypto Bernout redditor and I have been waiting all this time for a socialist to endorse Hillary so I could take the cover off my very carefully laid trap? I'm honored that you would think that I could actually plan that far ahead. It's devious, I'm inspired.
So quoting Bernie supporters is trying to convince however many Bernie supporters read this thread that Hillary is unfit? You don't think she did that to herself? Are you crediting me with #neverHillary?You're workin' hard to convince Bernie voters that the person & the Party he endorsed are unworthy of their vote, as if what's good enough for Bernie himself shouldn't be good enough for them.
That's trolling.
Yeah, that last point was just ludicrously bad. You could have an American-made product consuming 2KW and six man-hours total or a Vietnamese-made consuming 20KW and sixty man-hours total, and the Vietnamese product might still be cheaper because their labor is a quarter an hour and their electricity generated from cheap coal without environmental controls. Cheap just means cheap, it conveys no reasonable metric on efficiency whatsoever.I had something long typed up but cut it. I just want to address your last point first. It is comical just reading that statement. The reason something is manufactured in a specific country is because it is cheaper to make...not more efficient. Big difference. It is cheaper because they don't have the same labor laws and regulations that you would if you had to make it in the US. I am saying that is BULLSHIT. Why do companies based here in the US get to legally bypass US labor laws and regulations all to make a more "efficient" product?
So is it ok in your mind to have China and similar countries fuck-up the environment and use slave wages to make products that are later sold back in the US---all in the name of efficiency?
Maybe the US should tone back their labor laws and regulations to compete with these countries (sarcasm, before retards start flipping out). It will make the goods cheaper, amiright? It's all about the price to you, correct?
So quoting Bernie supporters is trying to convince however many Bernie supporters read this thread that Hillary is unfit? You don't think she did that to herself? Are you crediting me with #neverHillary?
In fact, go to the Bernie subreddits right now if you want to see what they're posting entirely without my help.
Yeah, that last point was just ludicrously bad. You could have an American-made product consuming 2KW and six man-hours total or a Vietnamese-made consuming 20KW and sixty man-hours total, and the Vietnamese product might still be cheaper because their labor is a quarter an hour and their electricity generated from cheap coal without environmental controls. Cheap just means cheap, it conveys no reasonable metric on efficiency whatsoever.
https://www.change.org/p/u-s-citize...-electoral-assistance-from-the-united-nations
Bernouts are mad.
The allegations of election fraud are disturbing, unconscionable that it would happen within the big tent party.