The best money can buy.

[08hayabusa]

Really like this case. http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16811119150 If you believe this is a good case what would you put in it for the ultimate do all build?

 

[Ausm]

I like my case better personally. I like a case where the hard drives are perpendicular to the motherboard.

 

[Googer]

The Cosmos is a very nice case. I bought one at CompUSA but returned it, it's major down falls are:

1. that it's very heavy (may break your back),
2. requires you to keep your HDD in a cage which will traps heat
3. and it does not accommodate lager oversized PSUs (deal killer)

It was the last one along with the HDD cages, that was the deal breaker for me. Look for the Lian Li PC-A71A (or any case with PC-A71 will be the same but with different options), It's one of the best cases on the market and can be found for around $175-220.

http://www.3dgameman.com/content/view/9498/103/

http://www.google.com/products?q=Lian+Li+PC-A71&hl=en
http://www.google.com/products?q=Lian+Li+PC-A71A&hl=en
http://www.google.com/products?q=Lian+Li+PC-A71B&hl=en

 

[Googer]

The best you can buy can be subjective to what you intend to do with the machine, so for the purpose of this build I am going to Assume you are in to games:

CPU:
There is nothing faster than an Intel Core i7 at this moment.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...115201,N82E16819115202


Motherboards:
[*]Asus' two best
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...131352,N82E16813131358

[*]Lower Cost, more user friendly, easy to use alternative would be an Intel Motherboard. But lacks the flexibility of the ASUS.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16813121361

RAM
DDR3 is the only option for a Core i7 Build. For i7, you must buy your RAM in sets of Three, which is the sweet spot for performance and more or less it hurts memory bandwith.
2GB x 3 = 6GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820148254

You could go with six DIMMS (memory sticks) but you will take a performance hit over using 3 sticks.


Power Supply
PC Power and Cooling, the best of the best. Period.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...703021,N82E16817703013

Storage
If you've got the cash do noting else but spring for an SSD which is faster than a HDD

Fusion I/O has the best at the moment, Micron is working on a model that is similar, possibly faster.
http://www.fusionio.com/
http://www.engadget.com/2008/1...est-storage-confirmed/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/0...mble-iodrive-duo-ssds/
http://www.engadget.com/2008/1...sd-card-is-wicked-qui/



Intel's X-25 is another hot contender in the SSD marketplace. Buy two and run them in RAID 0 on an Adaptec 5805
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820167005
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16816103098

Hard Drive. 15k SAS on an Adaptec 5805
Newegg does not sell Seagate's 15k.6 line of hard drives (which require a SAS controller like the Adaptec 5805)

If you wish to skip on performance a little bit in the name of money, then Western Digital's velociraptor is a slower but good choice. It can be used without a SAS controller or with a SAS controller for a boost in speed.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16822136322

All the above products will work on the Adaptec 5805. It is mandatory that the 15k.6 15,000RPM drives be used on a SAS controller.

 

[Griffinhart]

Take a look at the Antec 300. It's a surprisingly awesome case for $60. The two fans it comes with (a single 120 and 140mm fan) are more than enough for a standard PC, but you can easily add a pair of nice 120mm fans in the front and a third on the side panel. It even has a nice, easy to access, removable/cleanable dust filter in the front panel. It's a well though out and attractive case. IMHO you would be hard pressed to find a better case for anywhere near that price.

 

[08hayabusa]

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[08hayabusa]

What is the advantage of having perpendicular drives and motherboard?

Originally posted by: Ausm
I like my case better personally. I like a case where the hard drives are perpendicular to the motherboard.

 

[imported_wired247]

Originally posted by: 08hayabusa
What is the advantage of having perpendicular drives and motherboard?

Originally posted by: Ausm
I like my case better personally. I like a case where the hard drives are perpendicular to the motherboard.

advantage? none whatsoever.

 

[videogames101]

And I like my case better!

 

[DaveSimmons]

"ultimate do all build?"

People say that, but the sane ones don't really mean to spend an extra $4,000 for that last 5% gain in performance.

What is your real budget, and what will you use the PC for?

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Originally posted by: Googer
The best you can buy can be subjective to what you intend to do with the machine, so for the purpose of this build I am going to Assume you are in to games:

CPU:
There is nothing faster than an Intel Core i7 at this moment.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...115201,N82E16819115202


Motherboards:
[*]Asus' two best
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...131352,N82E16813131358

[*]Lower Cost, more user friendly, easy to use alternative would be an Intel Motherboard. But lacks the flexibility of the ASUS.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16813121361

RAM
DDR3 is the only option for a Core i7 Build. For i7, you must buy your RAM in sets of Three, which is the sweet spot for performance and more or less it hurts memory bandwith.
2GB x 3 = 6GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820148254

You could go with six DIMMS (memory sticks) but you will take a performance hit over using 3 sticks.


Power Supply
PC Power and Cooling, the best of the best. Period.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...703021,N82E16817703013

Storage
If you've got the cash do noting else but spring for an SSD which is faster than a HDD

Fusion I/O has the best at the moment, Micron is working on a model that is similar, possibly faster.
http://www.fusionio.com/
http://www.engadget.com/2008/1...est-storage-confirmed/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/0...mble-iodrive-duo-ssds/
http://www.engadget.com/2008/1...sd-card-is-wicked-qui/



Intel's X-25 is another hot contender in the SSD marketplace. Buy two and run them in RAID 0 on an Adaptec 5805
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820167005
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16816103098

Hard Drive. 15k SAS on an Adaptec 5805
Newegg does not sell Seagate's 15k.6 line of hard drives (which require a SAS controller like the Adaptec 5805)

If you wish to skip on performance a little bit in the name of money, then Western Digital's velociraptor is a slower but good choice. It can be used without a SAS controller or with a SAS controller for a boost in speed.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16822136322

All the above products will work on the Adaptec 5805. It is mandatory that the 15k.6 15,000RPM drives be used on a SAS controller.

That RAM is way overpriced. Get the $70 Corsair.

 

[08hayabusa]

The only thing I use my computer for is surfing the web. That's beside the point, I want to be able to do anything. The cost is also unimportant. If I can get away with 2000, great, if it costs 8000, that's fine too. As long as I can say I have the best of the best or real close to it that's fine. I want to know what the ultimate build would be and what it's capabilities are and then I can adjust what actually goes in the case from there.

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem

Originally posted by: Googer
The best you can buy can be subjective to what you intend to do with the machine, so for the purpose of this build I am going to Assume you are in to games:

CPU:
There is nothing faster than an Intel Core i7 at this moment.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...115201,N82E16819115202


Motherboards:
[*]Asus' two best
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...131352,N82E16813131358

[*]Lower Cost, more user friendly, easy to use alternative would be an Intel Motherboard. But lacks the flexibility of the ASUS.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16813121361

RAM
DDR3 is the only option for a Core i7 Build. For i7, you must buy your RAM in sets of Three, which is the sweet spot for performance and more or less it hurts memory bandwith.
2GB x 3 = 6GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820148254

You could go with six DIMMS (memory sticks) but you will take a performance hit over using 3 sticks.


Power Supply
PC Power and Cooling, the best of the best. Period.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...703021,N82E16817703013

Storage
If you've got the cash do noting else but spring for an SSD which is faster than a HDD

Fusion I/O has the best at the moment, Micron is working on a model that is similar, possibly faster.
http://www.fusionio.com/
http://www.engadget.com/2008/1...est-storage-confirmed/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/0...mble-iodrive-duo-ssds/
http://www.engadget.com/2008/1...sd-card-is-wicked-qui/



Intel's X-25 is another hot contender in the SSD marketplace. Buy two and run them in RAID 0 on an Adaptec 5805
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820167005
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16816103098

Hard Drive. 15k SAS on an Adaptec 5805
Newegg does not sell Seagate's 15k.6 line of hard drives (which require a SAS controller like the Adaptec 5805)

If you wish to skip on performance a little bit in the name of money, then Western Digital's velociraptor is a slower but good choice. It can be used without a SAS controller or with a SAS controller for a boost in speed.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16822136322

All the above products will work on the Adaptec 5805. It is mandatory that the 15k.6 15,000RPM drives be used on a SAS controller.

That RAM is way overpriced. Get the $70 Corsair.

 

[08hayabusa]

The only thing I use my computer for is surfing the web. That's beside the point, I want to be able to do anything. The cost is also unimportant. If I can get away with 2000, great, if it costs 8000, that's fine too. As long as I can say I have the best of the best or real close to it that's fine. I want to know what the ultimate build would be and what it's capabilities are and then I can adjust what actually goes in the case from there.

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

"ultimate do all build?"

People say that, but the sane ones don't really mean to spend an extra $4,000 for that last 5% gain in performance.

What is your real budget, and what will you use the PC for?

 

[DaveSimmons]

The only thing I use my computer for is surfing the web.

Then buy a $500 Dell and be done with it. Or:
- An Alienware with glowy alien eye lights
- A Dell "hybrid" or studio with fancy color case.
- A fancy laptop. Dynamism.com has $3,000 imports that are even more nifty than an Apple

As long as I can say I have the best of the best or real close to it that's fine.

Just tell people it has Monster Cables inside and cost you $5,000

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: wired247

Originally posted by: 08hayabusa
What is the advantage of having perpendicular drives and motherboard?

Originally posted by: Ausm
I like my case better personally. I like a case where the hard drives are perpendicular to the motherboard.

advantage? none whatsoever.

It's easier to take drives in and out, and you can get away with a case that isn't as deep, while keeping clearance on the gfx card. Not a huge deal, but sometimes it's the small details that make the difference between a functional case, and one you love.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

The only thing I use my computer for is surfing the web.

Then buy a $500 Dell and be done with it. Or:
- An Alienware with glowy alien eye lights
- A Dell "hybrid" or studio with fancy color case.
- A fancy laptop. Dynamism.com has $3,000 imports that are even more nifty than an Apple

As long as I can say I have the best of the best or real close to it that's fine.

Just tell people it has Monster Cables inside and cost you $5,000

Dell studio uses hard to find half height PCI cards which are a total bitch to live with.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: 08hayabusa
The only thing I use my computer for is surfing the web. That's beside the point, I want to be able to do anything. The cost is also unimportant. If I can get away with 2000, great, if it costs 8000, that's fine too. As long as I can say I have the best of the best or real close to it that's fine. I want to know what the ultimate build would be and what it's capabilities are and then I can adjust what actually goes in the case from there.

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem

Originally posted by: Googer
The best you can buy can be subjective to what you intend to do with the machine, so for the purpose of this build I am going to Assume you are in to games:

CPU:
There is nothing faster than an Intel Core i7 at this moment.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...115201,N82E16819115202


Motherboards:
[*]Asus' two best
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...131352,N82E16813131358

[*]Lower Cost, more user friendly, easy to use alternative would be an Intel Motherboard. But lacks the flexibility of the ASUS.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16813121361

RAM
DDR3 is the only option for a Core i7 Build. For i7, you must buy your RAM in sets of Three, which is the sweet spot for performance and more or less it hurts memory bandwith.
2GB x 3 = 6GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820148254

You could go with six DIMMS (memory sticks) but you will take a performance hit over using 3 sticks.


Power Supply
PC Power and Cooling, the best of the best. Period.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...703021,N82E16817703013

Storage
If you've got the cash do noting else but spring for an SSD which is faster than a HDD

Fusion I/O has the best at the moment, Micron is working on a model that is similar, possibly faster.
http://www.fusionio.com/
http://www.engadget.com/2008/1...est-storage-confirmed/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/0...mble-iodrive-duo-ssds/
http://www.engadget.com/2008/1...sd-card-is-wicked-qui/



Intel's X-25 is another hot contender in the SSD marketplace. Buy two and run them in RAID 0 on an Adaptec 5805
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820167005
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16816103098

Hard Drive. 15k SAS on an Adaptec 5805
Newegg does not sell Seagate's 15k.6 line of hard drives (which require a SAS controller like the Adaptec 5805)

If you wish to skip on performance a little bit in the name of money, then Western Digital's velociraptor is a slower but good choice. It can be used without a SAS controller or with a SAS controller for a boost in speed.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16822136322

All the above products will work on the Adaptec 5805. It is mandatory that the 15k.6 15,000RPM drives be used on a SAS controller.

That RAM is way overpriced. Get the $70 Corsair.

The RAM is DDR3 not older DDR2. It's also 3 dimms not two. Core2Duo has a dual channel memory controller and needs two dimms, Core i7 has a tipple channel memory controller and needs three dimms.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: Googer
The best you can buy can be subjective to what you intend to do with the machine, so for the purpose of this build I am going to Assume you are in to games:

CPU:
There is nothing faster than an Intel Core i7 at this moment.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...115201,N82E16819115202


Motherboards:
[*]Asus' two best
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...131352,N82E16813131358

[*]Lower Cost, more user friendly, easy to use alternative would be an Intel Motherboard. But lacks the flexibility of the ASUS.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16813121361

RAM
DDR3 is the only option for a Core i7 Build. For i7, you must buy your RAM in sets of Three, which is the sweet spot for performance and more or less it hurts memory bandwith.
2GB x 3 = 6GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820148254

You could go with six DIMMS (memory sticks) but you will take a performance hit over using 3 sticks.


Power Supply
PC Power and Cooling, the best of the best. Period.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...703021,N82E16817703013

Storage
If you've got the cash do noting else but spring for an SSD which is faster than a HDD

Fusion I/O has the best at the moment, Micron is working on a model that is similar, possibly faster.
http://www.fusionio.com/
http://www.engadget.com/2008/1...est-storage-confirmed/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/0...mble-iodrive-duo-ssds/
http://www.engadget.com/2008/1...sd-card-is-wicked-qui/



Intel's X-25 is another hot contender in the SSD marketplace. Buy two and run them in RAID 0 on an Adaptec 5805
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820167005
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16816103098

Hard Drive. 15k SAS on an Adaptec 5805
Newegg does not sell Seagate's 15k.6 line of hard drives (which require a SAS controller like the Adaptec 5805)

If you wish to skip on performance a little bit in the name of money, then Western Digital's velociraptor is a slower but good choice. It can be used without a SAS controller or with a SAS controller for a boost in speed.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16822136322

All the above products will work on the Adaptec 5805. It is mandatory that the 15k.6 15,000RPM drives be used on a SAS controller.

I forgot to include the video option, so read this weeks anandtech write up on video cards, both the ATI and NVIDIA cars look so good.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3539

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

The only thing I use my computer for is surfing the web.

Then buy a $500 Dell and be done with it. Or:
- An Alienware with glowy alien eye lights
- A Dell "hybrid" or studio with fancy color case.
- A fancy laptop. Dynamism.com has $3,000 imports that are even more nifty than an Apple

As long as I can say I have the best of the best or real close to it that's fine.

Just tell people it has Monster Cables inside and cost you $5,000

Dell studio uses hard to find half height PCI cards which are a total bitch to live with.

So? The OP just wants to surf the web and be able to say how expensively he does it.

Looking good matters much more than upgradeability for that.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

The only thing I use my computer for is surfing the web.

Then buy a $500 Dell and be done with it. Or:
- An Alienware with glowy alien eye lights
- A Dell "hybrid" or studio with fancy color case.
- A fancy laptop. Dynamism.com has $3,000 imports that are even more nifty than an Apple

As long as I can say I have the best of the best or real close to it that's fine.

Just tell people it has Monster Cables inside and cost you $5,000

Dell studio uses hard to find half height PCI cards which are a total bitch to live with.

So? The OP just wants to surf the web and be able to say how expensively he does it.

Looking good matters much more than upgradeability for that.

I've been receiving Private Messages from him, he wants to buy the best and does not want a computer with performance limitations.

 

[08hayabusa]

No, I dont care how much it costs, I just want to have a unit that cant be stopped or be told it cant do it.

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

The only thing I use my computer for is surfing the web.

Then buy a $500 Dell and be done with it. Or:
- An Alienware with glowy alien eye lights
- A Dell "hybrid" or studio with fancy color case.
- A fancy laptop. Dynamism.com has $3,000 imports that are even more nifty than an Apple

As long as I can say I have the best of the best or real close to it that's fine.

Just tell people it has Monster Cables inside and cost you $5,000

Dell studio uses hard to find half height PCI cards which are a total bitch to live with.

So? The OP just wants to surf the web and be able to say how expensively he does it.

Looking good matters much more than upgradeability for that.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: 08hayabusa

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

The only thing I use my computer for is surfing the web.

Then buy a $500 Dell and be done with it. Or:
- An Alienware with glowy alien eye lights
- A Dell "hybrid" or studio with fancy color case.
- A fancy laptop. Dynamism.com has $3,000 imports that are even more nifty than an Apple

As long as I can say I have the best of the best or real close to it that's fine.

Just tell people it has Monster Cables inside and cost you $5,000

Dell studio uses hard to find half height PCI cards which are a total bitch to live with.

So? The OP just wants to surf the web and be able to say how expensively he does it.

Looking good matters much more than upgradeability for that.

FIXED 08hyabusas reply
No, I dont care how much it costs, I just want to have a unit that cant be stopped or be told it cant do it.

 

[Googer]

Essential Parts

Core i7 Extreme Edition 3.2GHz $999.99 (i7 940 2.93GHz, $569)
ASUS Rampage II Extreme 388.99
Crucual Ballistix 6GB 259.00
Lian Li Case $220
PC Power and Cooling T12W 1,200 watt PSU with ESA $509.99 (ESA is for overlclocking, not recomended for novices)
Video Card: ATi HD 4890 $250
Sound Card: ASUS Xonar D2X: $200
Blu-Ray Drive: Pioneer BDR-203BKS $240
DVD-RAM and -/+R-W drive: ASUS DRW-2014S1T (Supports 14x Dual Layer DVD-RAM) $23
CD Burner $17 Lite On DH-52R2P-04

Vista Ultimate RETAIL (OEM sucks, Retail Rocks) $272.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16832116473


Total Cost Comes to Around $3381 with out Storage options. Add an Adaptec 5805 and your total comes to About $3700 with out drives. Shop ebay for Adaptec 5805 and the price may come down to around $3,500.



Storage
Storage will not be part of the total sum, you will need to add those on; this is where things can get very expensive, exotic, and wild. Depending on the size a Fusion I/O drive can cost two thousand (80GB/1.5GB/s) to fourteen thousand dollars. But it will make your PC the fastest in all of your state or city.


More budget friendly are Two Quantity 80GB Intel X25-M (in raid 0)- $383 each for a grand cost of $766 for 160GB plus $300-ish for an Adaptec 5805 but can be found for less than $200 on ebay.

Slightly More Budget Friendly. Seagate 15k.6 146GB 15,000RPM Hard Drives about 200-220 each. Plus Two 1TB drives in RAID 5. Adaptec 5805 or similar SAS controller required.

Even More Budget Friendly. Four 1TB Drives in RAID 0+1 and Four Western Digital 300GB Velocirators in RAID 0+1 . Using Adaptec 5805 or similar.

Most Budget Friendly, Same the four 1TB drives in RAID 0+1 but excludes the ADAPTEC 5805 and takes a performance hit using the motherboards RAID controller.

 

[Rubycon]

Skip the Adaptec part if you seek performance!
Also there are far better choices than PCP&C PSU!
That new Enermax 1.2kW as well as BFG's 1.2kW model are cheaper and far more efficient/quiet and modular to boot! Admittingly I swore off Enermax after the Liberty 620 fireworks fiasco that raised a huge flurry and nearly got my (personal) computing privs suspended for life. :Q From what I've been reading about these new designs (the BFG is a steal if you can find it in stock!) they are much cleaner and super efficient - close to 90% when running on 240VAC)

If performance/reliability prevails and cost is no concern you want a dual LGA1366 board and the fastest Xeons available.

Also 4890? :laugh:

If you dig ATi, look no further than 4870x2.
If you game at 2560x1600 seriously you want a 295GTX...
SLI or Tri SLI is also supported on the Revolution but you will need a PCI-E slot for your storage controller.
Audio? Well if you game the Xonar may not be a bad choice as the CL X-Fi Titanium or whatever you call it. If I MUST have SB compat I have a USB X-Fi 5.1. 98% of the time my sound is routed through a MOTU 896HD hitched to 1394A and it plays just fine and its DAC's blow away ANY consumer sound card bar none!

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: wired247

Originally posted by: 08hayabusa
What is the advantage of having perpendicular drives and motherboard?

Originally posted by: Ausm
I like my case better personally. I like a case where the hard drives are perpendicular to the motherboard.

advantage? none whatsoever.

I beg to differ.....much easier to install hard drives this way and also helps with cable management.