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Czar

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: BreakApart
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: BreakApart
Originally posted by: Slovin8
Now I understand why the world hate us.

Don't you guys see, we're ISOLATED with respect to middle east policy.

We are TARGETED largely because of our middle east policy.

The European Union, Russia, UN.. i.e. the whole world stands at one pole and our government and the Israelis at another.

If we just stay neutral, that would be wonderful.

But no no no, we keep pumping billions of our TAX dollars to Mr. Sharon and his gang, we keep giving them free F-16s and unprecendeted military aid to be used in war crime and terrorism...

and then we scream "Why they hate us?!?!"

Go get a job as a bus driver in Israel, then talk to me about who the terrorists are. *you disgust me*
go and try to live in the West Bank and then come back and share your wisdom of IDF checkpoints and searches

Israel attacks the West Bank with suicide bombers that attack random targets? Ohh that's right they DON'T. Nice try....
do you realy think that only Israeli civilians are suffering from this conflict?

 

BreakApart

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Nov 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: BreakApart
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: BreakApart
Originally posted by: Slovin8
Now I understand why the world hate us.

Don't you guys see, we're ISOLATED with respect to middle east policy.

We are TARGETED largely because of our middle east policy.

The European Union, Russia, UN.. i.e. the whole world stands at one pole and our government and the Israelis at another.

If we just stay neutral, that would be wonderful.

But no no no, we keep pumping billions of our TAX dollars to Mr. Sharon and his gang, we keep giving them free F-16s and unprecendeted military aid to be used in war crime and terrorism...

and then we scream "Why they hate us?!?!"

Go get a job as a bus driver in Israel, then talk to me about who the terrorists are. *you disgust me*
go and try to live in the West Bank and then come back and share your wisdom of IDF checkpoints and searches

Israel attacks the West Bank with suicide bombers that attack random targets? Ohh that's right they DON'T. Nice try....
do you realy think that only Israeli civilians are suffering from this conflict?

Nope, but to blame ONLY Israel in this mess is being ignorant.

There are 2 sides.
The suicide bombers who intentional target civilians.... (guess you find that ok?)
The Israel forces that fight back to stop the bombings, and in this case created collateral damage while attacking the guy that sends those suicide bombers.

Both sides have killed civilians, the difference is the Palestinians are doing it ON PUPOSE! *your blind if you don't see that*
 

Czar

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: BreakApart
Nope, but to blame ONLY Israel in this mess is being ignorant.

There are 2 sides.
The suicide bombers who intentional target civilians.... (guess you find that ok?)
The Israel forces that fight back to stop the bombings, and in this case created collateral damage while attacking the guy that sends those suicide bombers.

Both sides have killed civilians, the difference is the Palestinians are doing it ON PUPOSE! *your blind if you don't see that*
Dont find that ok
Both sides are doing horrible things to the other side, no side is right even though in your opinion its doing "less" bad stuff than the other.
 

BreakApart

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Nov 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: BreakApart
Nope, but to blame ONLY Israel in this mess is being ignorant.

There are 2 sides.
The suicide bombers who intentional target civilians.... (guess you find that ok?)
The Israel forces that fight back to stop the bombings, and in this case created collateral damage while attacking the guy that sends those suicide bombers.

Both sides have killed civilians, the difference is the Palestinians are doing it ON PUPOSE! *your blind if you don't see that*
Dont find that ok
Both sides are doing horrible things to the other side, no side is right even though in your opinion its doing "less" bad stuff than the other.

I wish there was a way to stop all that crap, but it will take a better man than me to find the solution.
 

SnapIT

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Jul 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: Peetoeng
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Can I ask a question of the rabid Israeli supporters?


If its ok to kill 14 civilians to kill 1 terrorist, is it ok to kill ALL palestinians to kill all terrorists? Should Israel start the rounding up palestinians and killing them?

They can use big ovens to accomplish the job quickly and cheaply.

Do you know how many german civilians died before the allies came to Berlin? Go out, and ask the first person you see to beat the crap out of you, and tell me how it felt.

Yeah, i just love it when you bring up a sixty year old war... it just shows how stupid you are... why no just state it? "i am very stupid" instead of trying to prove it, i would believe you without the proof!
 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
On a side note, anyone else notice that the only pro-Palestine supporters are Arabs and people of middle-eastern decent?

Yes, i noticed that too... i am swedish btw... and obviously an arab communist... are you extremely stupid or just dumb?
 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: BreakApart
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: BreakApart
Nope, but to blame ONLY Israel in this mess is being ignorant.

There are 2 sides.
The suicide bombers who intentional target civilians.... (guess you find that ok?)
The Israel forces that fight back to stop the bombings, and in this case created collateral damage while attacking the guy that sends those suicide bombers.

Both sides have killed civilians, the difference is the Palestinians are doing it ON PUPOSE! *your blind if you don't see that*
Dont find that ok
Both sides are doing horrible things to the other side, no side is right even though in your opinion its doing "less" bad stuff than the other.

I wish there was a way to stop all that crap, but it will take a better man than me to find the solution.

now, that is a statement i respect! i am not pro anything, but i am anti-killing civilians, no matter what race or county they belong to...
 

Czar

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: BreakApart
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: BreakApart
Nope, but to blame ONLY Israel in this mess is being ignorant.

There are 2 sides.
The suicide bombers who intentional target civilians.... (guess you find that ok?)
The Israel forces that fight back to stop the bombings, and in this case created collateral damage while attacking the guy that sends those suicide bombers.

Both sides have killed civilians, the difference is the Palestinians are doing it ON PUPOSE! *your blind if you don't see that*
Dont find that ok
Both sides are doing horrible things to the other side, no side is right even though in your opinion its doing "less" bad stuff than the other.

I wish there was a way to stop all that crap, but it will take a better man than me to find the solution.

now, that is a statement i respect! i am not pro anything, but i am anti-killing civilians, no matter what race or county they belong to...
something we should all be able to agree on
 

Stark

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Jun 16, 2000
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Here is a link to some statistical analysis of the casualties in the conflict. It gets very interesting when they compare the numbers of women and children casualties on each side:

An Engineered Tragedy

 

Czar

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Stark
Here is a link to some statistical analysis of the casualties in the conflict. It gets very interesting when they compare the numbers of women and children casualties on each side:

An Engineered Tragedy

read parts of it and wow, that seems to be a very profesional information gathering.


I would also want to nitpick
The People Behind ICT
Shabtai Shavit Chairman, Board of Directors, former director of the Israeli Intelligence Agency (Mossad)
 

lizium

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For the record, F-16 is a plane... The Missile was prolly the AGM-114 Hellfire, i dont know for sure.

In my opinion, firing a 500lb "flying bomb" is no different from walking into a crown of people and blowing them up. BUT here Istarelis didnt sacrifice themselves, they fired the missile and ran away with their tails between their legs...
 

Nefrodite

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which is why armies should be comprised of suicide bombers and kamakazees. otherwise your cowardly. oh yea, and only go after general civilians, don't even have a valuable military target in mind.
 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: Nefrodite
which is why armies should be comprised of suicide bombers and kamakazees. otherwise your cowardly. oh yea, and only go after general civilians, don't even have a valuable military target in mind.

Sure they do, they blow up future Israeli terrorists... (this is sarcasm for those who did not get that)
 

Orsorum

Lifer
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Originally posted by: BreakApart

I wish there was a way to stop all that crap, but it will take a better man than me to find the solution.

It'll take a man just like you or me... only one in power.

The whole solution hinges on forgiveness and humility... I find it ironic that a whole ethnicity and country would find it difficult to empathize and realize the hypocrisy of their own actions...
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
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Break Apart said:

If the UN had ANY evidence of a crime they would have investigated, guess you didn't realize that.

The Isrealies didn't let the UN into Jenin for days despite them requesting directly an investigation into the events. Plenty of time to clear up any REAL mess they left behind.

Get a clue, it's 50/50, there are no 'goodguys' in this battle. The entire dispute is created by pride/land/religion as are ALL battles, bar none. This is not a special situation, please stop pontificating about who has the moral high ground.

There seem to be more people ready to support violence in here than ppl proposing peace. That's a bit phucked up, don'tcha think?

Getting a clue means getting on.
 

Orsorum

Lifer
Dec 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: lizium
For the record, F-16 is a plane... The Missile was prolly the AGM-114 Hellfire, i dont know for sure.

In my opinion, firing a 500lb "flying bomb" is no different from walking into a crown of people and blowing them up. BUT here Istarelis didnt sacrifice themselves, they fired the missile and ran away with their tails between their legs...

Does that honestly matter? Either way is just as cowardly for the leaders. Instead of taking the guts to just settle the issue and make peace, they keep throwing lives away.
 

bugsysiegel

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geee, good thing those surgical-strike palestinians that blow up ice cream stands don't do any crap like this!

 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: bugsysiegel
geee, good thing those surgical-strike palestinians that blow up ice cream stands don't do any crap like this!

The Palestinians are not any better, but two wrongs does not make a right...
 
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