The bible is scientifically accurate, check the proof

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zod

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....rrreesisting ...must not - join - in religion... bible... thread...

nhhhggg. . .

Ok, so what did we actually find out is scientifically accurate in the Bible? That everyone spoke the same language until we tried to build a really tall building, then everyone spontaneously developed different languages?
 

Sketcher

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Main Entry: sci·ence
Pronunciation: 'sI-&n(t)s
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin scientia, from scient-, sciens having knowledge, from present participle of scire to know; probably akin to Sanskrit chyati he cuts off, Latin scindere to split -- more at SHED
Date: 14th century
1 : the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding
2 a : a department of systematized knowledge as an object of study <the science of theology> b : something (as a sport or technique) that may be studied or learned like systematized knowledge <have it down to a science>
3 a : knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method b : such knowledge or such a system of knowledge concerned with the physical world and its phenomena.

By the definition of Science, nearly all of the posts within this thread are without measurable value in regard to the misaligned but well intentioned original post. It is laughable how many of the resultant arguments are merely fodder gathered from quick google searches and witty catch-isms.

There is scientific evidence, even light of the "Faith" factor controversial diatribes. IF I have mind too, I'll reference the work I am familiar with... but don't hold your breath. I feel no impressing need to prove a point that I am not personally conflicted over.

Kind of like roadkill and car accidents though... you just can't help yourself.
 

Raspewtin

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"The bible is scientifically accurate"

lol.


In some ways the journey is more important than the destination I guess, so I must applaud your effort and commitment at trying to prove something against overwhelming odds. These amalgamated thoughts of various disagreeing writers that make up your Bible must be very important to you.
 

skylark

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Arkitech:


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<< What about the religious propaganda (AKA 'sacred' texts) of the countless other religions?

I agree with Novgrod that this thread is merely flamebait.

Before I post this comment, I wanted to include one of the many interesting sites the Internet offers regarding the bible:
The Bible - Its Evolution, Contradictions and Inconsistencies
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I have to admit that I'm ignorant of the texts and documents of religions that don't use the bible. However I will make this comment that the bible is the oldest publication on Earth, its also the most popular. It still is widely available despite the fact that there have been numerous attempts by kings and other rulers to wipe out its existence. Another notable fact about the bible is depsite the fact there are many, many translations of this book you'll find that if you compare those translations they will all be fairly consistent of one another. (of course there are few exceptions)
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Jaina is the oldest, so far historically.. Most major Eastern mysticism are older than the "Bible." Simply trying to place a date on when sacred texts became visible is moot as far as facts -- unless you have indutitable scientific confirmation. and trying to rationalize the availability and popularity is weak - nothing more than just enculterated ignorance. And what about kings? I've read more destruction, violence, and descecration caused by the xian-ish religions than all east traditions combined, historically.. You are part of that history.

geek167:


<< Those children didn't come from innocent parents. So in turn, they are not innocent. [uhh, i think. something like that]. Sometimes in the Bible people were cursed because of what their parents did. Other times they are blessed.

If God created you, then I'd think he has the right to destroy you if you are being stupid and not listening to him. He warned them......
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Well, so much for freedom of choice and will given by God... A child with a heart of gold but cursed by evil parents ~ is doomed.......... Doesn't sound appealing to me..

So if Yahweh created me, then let Him destroy me........ IF He can. Destroying me is destroying the community, locally and globally, that I value ~ my link in the chaining.

In truth, my truth....... Yahweh has no will over me, nor should it be imposed on anyone.. If such unconditional love exist, Yahweh should allow Paradise to only exist.

BlueApple: ahahahah....... We have then, temperature of heaven, 525°C (977°F). Temperature of hell, less than 445°F). Therefore heaven is hotter than hell.
 

misterj

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jeebus

it seems the people who take the bible or any other religion's writings literally are the psycho ones

and i shall strike down on ye with grrreat vengeance and oh nevermind
 

JohnnyReb

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I am not sure what the boy's motivation was in starting this thread, but the objections from the rogues gallery leaves a lot to be desired.

There is the one group that feels that the listing of miracles makes the Bible wrong. This is only true IF the God of Abraham doesn't exist. IF he does THEN those objections are invalid.

You have another group that is merely mockers. Oh this couldn't have happened, Oh that couldn't have happened so the Bible is wrong.

Another groups wants to confuse some pop mumbo-jumbo that they heard somewhere with what the Bible actually says. The Earth is the center of the Universe, etc..

Finally, the last group throws a bunch of little things they don't understand at the originator of this thread apparently thinking that the raw numbers of objections will make the Bible invalid. And if he doesn?t answer every one, he?s avoiding the question.

Every objection listed falls into one of about thirteen fallacies. If anyone still has any steam, toss one my way and I?ll see what I can do.
 

MrDudeMan

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i think its funny how worked up people get about the bible. if you dont believe it, then screw off for all i care. you dont have to open your mouth and let out your random, not appreciated, useless crap. have you ever played the game telephone? where you talk in someones ear, then they talk in someones ear, and by the time it gets back around to you, it can be quite different? ever thought that might have happened? in my spanish book at school, things are translated quite differently and sometimes wrong or changed. the thing about snakes eating dirt, etc...is obviously one of these incidents. a bat, essentially, is a bird. a little kid knows what things are because of what they do. he knows a car is either a 4 door sedan or a 18 wheeler is moving, so both of them are a car. you dont hear a 2 year old saying lets go get in the 18 wheeler. same thing with the bats...it flies. what does any bird do? besides penguins, chickens, etc. it flies. so to a person who is generalizing, you could classify a bat as a bird. eveyrone who participated in this as a flame-giver or flame-throw, no pun intended, then you can all go to hades. isnt that ironic, though, how people who dont believe in God can condemn people to hell? well isnt hell based on the bible? yes, i think it is. so arent you just contradictng yourself when you tell someone to go to hell? yes, i think you are.
 

imgod2u

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I don't think that anyone would say there isn't a little bit of truth in the Bible. According to my Bible lit class, there is indeed, many historically accurate events. On the other hand, that doesn't automatically mean that everything in it is true. If I were to follow that logic, I'd believe that everything Homer did in the Iliad was true simply because the Trojan Wars really happened.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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There is the one group that feels that the listing of miracles makes the Bible wrong. This is only true IF the God of Abraham doesn't exist. IF he does THEN those objections are invalid.

If they are truly miracles - acts that by definition defy explanation b/c they violate laws of nature - then those objections are particularly VALID. IMHO why would God violate HIS rules? Ultimately the laws of nature as those set down for Man were created to provide order. I'm not contending the Bible 'miracles' are fact or fiction. But my puny intellect cannot comprehend why God would tolerate or require violations of HIS law any more than he would tolerate or REQUIRE humans to violate the laws he set down for us.


You have another group that is merely mockers. Oh this couldn't have happened, Oh that couldn't have happened so the Bible is wrong.

Even the peanut gallery deserves an opportunity to add their $0.02 but if something couldn't have happened . . . ie anachronism then well it couldn't have happened. As for science/mythology Genesis 8:21 . . . essentially after the waters recede, Noah, cooks up an offering to God using animals from the Ark. Well if you believe one version Noah had (Gen7:2-3) 7 pairs of clean creatures and 1 pair of unclean or (Gen6:19, Gen7:9,15) one pair of everything. He gave Noah 7 days to build the ark (Gen 7:4,10) during which Noah collected animals and I believe (don't remember) God commanded animals to come to him. I'm not saying it's impossible but can you imagine how long it would take a three-toed tree sloth to get to the Middle East? Can koala bears swim?

Finally, the last group throws a bunch of little things they don't understand at the originator of this thread apparently thinking that the raw numbers of objections will make the Bible invalid. And if he doesn?t answer every one, he?s avoiding the question.


Why have the inspired Word or "Good News" be difficult to understand by being internally inconsistent? It should be easy to understand and accessible to all. Furthermore, I think a religion is in deep trouble if believers are not up to the challenge to prove the Bible is not only internally but EXTERNALLY consistent. If a parable is just a parable say so, but if Gen Ch6-8 is meant to explain actual events the proof is in the pudding. Then Gen 9:12-17 . . .

And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud: And I will remember my covenant which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth. And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth. (KJV)

My feeble mind says 1) God just explained rainbows (?) and 2) damn she talks like a lawyer.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Almost forgot, not meant to be mean but for you atheists, agnostics, or "mockers" get your facts straight before implying science has "definitely" proven a biblical perspective to be wrong. Radiometric dating is very good thread relevant but it has detractors and legitimate criticisms. Even proponents do not claim C14 dating to be valid beyond 50K years. Arkitech is quite accurate is he says some Bible passages are historically and scientifically accurate. I think you would hard pressed to find a historian, archaeologist, or scientist that would disagree.
 

chuckieland

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it's not very nice to speak your mind and tell others "if you don't agree, then shut up"
and it's dumb, not to heard what opposite site have to say
that is no way to learn.
the world did not come this far going by what bibble say
 

Circlenaut

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People look at the bible as a quide not a science book and I think Y'all are smart enough to tell the difference between right and wrong. In my mind I "purify" the bible when I read it.
 

JohnnyReb

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The whole fowl/bat ?error? is an example of how people make up errors.

The current classification of mammals/birds was not in place when this was written. To say that this makes the information inaccurate is equivalent to saying the Bible is wrong because it refers to nations that are named something else today. For example, this is just a logical as saying the Bible is wrong because it refers to the Roman Empire, everyone knows that the nation with Rome as its capital is Italy, not the Roman Empire.

John

All the others can be similarly resolved.
 
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