The brits are in for a rough ride

[GodisanAtheist]

"James Cleverly fails to deny calling Rwanda deportation policy ‘batshit’ in private"

No 10 says it will produce ‘emergency’ bill to show Rwanda safe country ‘in coming weeks’ – as it happened

Downing Street says legislation will make clear ‘Rwanda is safe’ and will address court’s concerns after policy ruled unlawful

www.theguardian.com

-Had to read that sentence three times.

I do think it's pretty clever to call that Rwanda policy batshit though, so my incorrect reading could still be the right one.

 

[pmv]

"James Cleverly fails to deny calling Rwanda deportation policy ‘batshit’ in private"

No 10 says it will produce ‘emergency’ bill to show Rwanda safe country ‘in coming weeks’ – as it happened

Downing Street says legislation will make clear ‘Rwanda is safe’ and will address court’s concerns after policy ruled unlawful

www.theguardian.com

Weird how they are named like the Seven Dwarves. Though James Cleverly is not particularly clever, and James Heappey doesn't seem all that happy. Rishi is pretty Rich, though.

 

[pmv]

Pleased to hear the letters-of-no-confidence are putting in an appearance.

Suella Braverman’s letter to Rishi Sunak is a key contribution to a hilarious new Tory genre | Zoe Williams

Their cod legalese and baffling histrionics have us rolling in the aisles – but what are these wacky no-confidence letters trying to distract us from?, asks Guardian columnist Zoe Williams

www.theguardian.com

This really reminds me of something

The text is peppered with legal-ish language – “notwithstanding clauses” and “inter alias” – and this set off all the lawyers, wondering not for the first time whether her skills in this area really match those one would expect from a former attorney general. Whenever she reaches for her silk-speak, she gives off the vibe of a litigant-in-person, raging around a court room with a glossary hacked off Google, unaware that some of the language is quite technical and has a specific meaning, hoping to mask her lack of command with the vivacity of her ill-will.

Isn't there a movie scene like that? Someone spouting off random legal jargon in a nonsensical way? Groucho Marx, maybe? Jim Carrey?

 

[UNCjigga]

Weird how they are named like the Seven Dwarves. Though James Cleverly is not particularly clever, and James Heappey doesn't seem all that happy. Rishi is pretty Rich, though.

Braverman wasn’t particularly “brave” either—but I suppose she was braver than most of the men on the benches.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Pleased to hear the letters-of-no-confidence are putting in an appearance.

Suella Braverman’s letter to Rishi Sunak is a key contribution to a hilarious new Tory genre | Zoe Williams

Their cod legalese and baffling histrionics have us rolling in the aisles – but what are these wacky no-confidence letters trying to distract us from?, asks Guardian columnist Zoe Williams

www.theguardian.com

I bet ChatGPT.

 

[KMFJD]

Greek newspaper has not taken Sunak's Elgin Marbles snub very well

The PM got a front page spread in the Free Hour - and they even published the headline in English for his benefit.

www.thelondoneconomic.com

Greeks would really like their marbles back

 

[Drach]

Fuck the brits. They got what they wanted .
Enjoy your shit stain on history.

 

[biostud]

Fuck the brits. They got what they wanted .
Enjoy your shit stain on history.

As you might know even in a democracy, then 49.9 could have wanted something completely different, but have to respect that 0.2 wanted differently.

 

[sdifox]

Labour should announce they support the deport to Rwanda plan as soon as UK make all Rwandans UK citizens.

 

[mikeymikec]

Good news everyone! We now have at least two conservative parties.

Keir Starmer defends praising Thatcher in pitch for Tories

The Labour leader says the former Conservative PM set loose "our natural entrepreneurialism".

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[KMFJD]

Good news everyone! We now have at least two conservative parties.

Keir Starmer defends praising Thatcher in pitch for Tories

The Labour leader says the former Conservative PM set loose "our natural entrepreneurialism".

www.bbc.co.uk

JFC what a shitstain he is....this shit is happening everywhere, the 'left' parties get infiltrated/supplanted by the conservative branch of the party , then they 'try' to lure more conservative voters to their party (which never works) while moving their policies continually to the right for the benefit of the rich. Then when people say wait a minute i'm not voting for this shit these neoliberals have the balls to say if you don't vote for us you'll get the evil boogey man who will be worse (which is true but jfc the alternative is just as shitty but with flowers and deodorant to mask the smell)

It's maddening

 

[pmv]

What's most irritating about it is that it always happens when the Conservatives are falling apart and clearly on their last legs. Then the "B-team"Tories of the Labour right step up and get ready to take over and keep the seat warm while the A-team sorts itself out. And everyone is told they _must_ vote for the "centrists" for fear of getting the far-right...though of course the centrists never return the favour when it's reversed, preferring to actively support the far-right rather than support the left.

 

[igor_kavinski]

As you might know even in a democracy, then 49.9 could have wanted something completely different, but have to respect that 0.2 wanted differently.

That's why democracy should be two-thirds majority, or even 80-20. Anything less and both parties need to work together, each party controlling the area they won in.

 

[mikeymikec]

If anyone spots the full opinion piece by Keir Starmer, I would appreciate it. I'd prefer not to rely solely on third party quotes, even though I'm already assuming the worst.

 

[KMFJD]

If anyone spots the full opinion piece by Keir Starmer, I would appreciate it. I'd prefer not to rely solely on third party quotes, even though I'm already assuming the worst.

Here ya go

Voters have been betrayed on Brexit and immigration. I stand ready to deliver

My party extends the hand of friendship to those who voted for the Tories but feel let down by their failure to act

www.telegraph.co.uk

Here was the actual quote

~Every moment of meaningful change in modern British politics begins with the realisation that politics must act in service of the British people, rather than dictating to them. Margaret Thatcher sought to drag Britain out of its stupor by setting loose our natural entrepreneurialism. Tony Blair reimagined a stale, outdated Labour Party into one that could seize the optimism of the late 90s. A century ago, Clement Attlee wrote that Labour must be a party of duty and patriotism, not abstract theory. To build a “New Jerusalem” meant first casting off the mind-forged manacles. That lesson is as true today as it was then.

 

[darkswordsman17]

As you might know even in a democracy, then 49.9 could have wanted something completely different, but have to respect that 0.2 wanted differently.

It doesn't even take a majority. Doesn't change that Brits are getting what they decided they wanted. If you sit with your thumb up your butt instead of voting, well you're still making a decision and you're gonna end up having to deal with the ramifications of that decision.

 

[pmv]

The mind boggles.

(For him as a PM to even _ask_ about the idea shows pretty poor judgement - given it was always likely to come out in just this sort of fashion).

Boris Johnson considered ‘raid’ on vaccine plant in the Netherlands

Covid inquiry expected to be told that the former PM was open to ‘military options’ to obtain ‘impounded’ jabs from factory in Leiden

uk.yahoo.com

 

[pmv]

Regarding an SAS raid on warehouses in the Netherlands, I don't believe there was ever the slightest chance of it actually happening. The possibility of something potentially ending in a shoot-out between British forces and Dutch police is just too preposterous this side of a Hollywood action flick (and even then it would probably have to be in a context involving a zombie apocalypse).

But Johnson even officially asking about the idea surely says something about his lack of seriousness and poor impulse control? It's almost unbelievable that we've had such a run of PMs so unfit for the job. From Cameron to Sunak, it's hard to which one was/is the more inept.

 

[igor_kavinski]

But Johnson even officially asking about the idea surely says something about his lack of seriousness and poor impulse control?

Boris born on 19 June. Trump on 14 June. Trump has a much harder time controlling himself. Brits are lucky to have had a milder version of Trump. Imagine what a full blown Brit Trump could have done

 

[hal2kilo]

That's why democracy should be two-thirds majority, or even 80-20. Anything less and both parties need to work together, each party controlling the area they won in.

No. Creates default minority rule. Got those stupid laws about raising taxes here.

 

[Vic]

The mind boggles.

(For him as a PM to even _ask_ about the idea shows pretty poor judgement - given it was always likely to come out in just this sort of fashion).

Boris Johnson considered ‘raid’ on vaccine plant in the Netherlands

Covid inquiry expected to be told that the former PM was open to ‘military options’ to obtain ‘impounded’ jabs from factory in Leiden

uk.yahoo.com

"But while Britain’s security services were spared their biggest debacle on Dutch soil since Operation Market Garden... "

🤣

 

[pmv]

I heard/read somewhere someone pointing out how many of our recent political leaders have been former journalists or opinion-columnists, and that they have a tendency to carry on in that provocative rabble-rousing irresponsible style, sounding off without necessarily meaning it. I think there's a lot in that.

I could imagine Johnson in his earlier opinion-columnist role provocatively demanding the government send in the SAS to sieze the vaccine shipments, but still talking like that when you are PM is not taking the job seriously.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I could imagine Johnson in his earlier opinion-columnist role provocatively demanding the government send in the SAS to sieze the vaccine shipments, but still talking like that when you are PM is not taking the job seriously.

You actually expected that buffoon to take his job seriously?

 

[pmv]

This is _so_ cynical. The Tories quietly changed the voting system to the crap first-past-the-post system, precisely because they reckoned that gave them the best chance, because of the likelihood of splits among potential Labour voters.

The extent to which 'democracy' can be 'gamed' and manipulated, constantly amazes me. Happens on both sides of the Atlantic (and everywhere, probably). "Democracy" is not a binary thing, that you either have or don't have.

Sadiq Khan urges progressives to back him amid concern about new voting system

The London mayor fears most voters are unaware of the change to a first past the post system that may boost the Tory candidate

www.theguardian.com

...and this is coming on top of the introduction of voter-ID laws. Just finally managed to get such an ID (cost me nearly £20 on passport photos - though the worst part was having to face up to the fact I now look like a decrepit old geezer). Now I have to remember there's no possibility of a protest vote giving the Greens or someone first preference.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

This is _so_ cynical. The Tories quietly changed the voting system to the crap first-past-the-post system, precisely because they reckoned that gave them the best chance, because of the likelihood of splits among potential Labour voters.

The extent to which 'democracy' can be 'gamed' and manipulated, constantly amazes me. Happens on both sides of the Atlantic (and everywhere, probably). "Democracy" is not a binary thing, that you either have or don't have.

Sadiq Khan urges progressives to back him amid concern about new voting system

The London mayor fears most voters are unaware of the change to a first past the post system that may boost the Tory candidate

www.theguardian.com

...and this is coming on top of the introduction of voter-ID laws. Just finally managed to get such an ID (cost me nearly £20 on passport photos - though the worst part was having to face up to the fact I now look like a decrepit old geezer). Now I have to remember there's no possibility of a protest vote giving the Greens or someone first preference.

-Wow, you guys actually moved to the shittier, less representative system on purpose.

Thanks for bouying this old Yank's heart, I knew Euros were just as dumb and corrupt as us!