The brits are in for a rough ride

[biostud]

-Wow, you guys actually moved to the shittier, less representative system on purpose.

Thanks for bouying this old Yank's heart, I knew Euros were just as dumb and corrupt as us!

Hey, leave the rest of us out of your cesspools of

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Hey, leave the rest of us out of your cesspools of
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[pmv]

Conservatives everywhere really _hate_ democracy. And freedom. Freedom and democracy are the two things Conservatives really dislike.

Actually, it seems they hate families as well...and love.

How the heartless visa changes will destroy our families | Letters

Letters: Readers react with despair and distress to the new immigration rules announced by James Cleverly

www.theguardian.com

_Among_ the Three...Four...things Conservatives hate are freedom, democracy, love, and family...

 

[K1052]

Conservatives everywhere really _hate_ democracy. And freedom. Freedom and democracy are the two things Conservatives really dislike.

Actually, it seems they hate families as well...and love.

How the heartless visa changes will destroy our families | Letters

Letters: Readers react with despair and distress to the new immigration rules announced by James Cleverly

www.theguardian.com

_Among_ the Three...Four...things Conservatives hate are freedom, democracy, love, and family...

This whole thing is absolutely unhinged and definitely something the right on this side of the Atlantic would like to emulate.

 

[pmv]

This whole thing is absolutely unhinged and definitely something the right on this side of the Atlantic would like to emulate.

The increase in salary requirements for spouses does indeed seem to be unhinged. I can't see how it makes any sense even in cynical electoral terms. Are even racist anti-migrant voters really that upset about junior academics and nurses coming here? Or the care-workers who look after their parents?
I can't understand what their reasoning is behind it.

I can only assume it came about because our current political leaders are so incredibly rich that it didn't occur to them that £40k is a very high salary (well above median income). To them it's just small change ("doesn't everyone earn at least that?")

 

[pmv]

Hmm, hopefully another Tory Byelection disaster looms

Labour prepares to force byelection if Tory MP Peter Bone suspended

Party to encourage Wellingborough voters to sign petition if Commons votes to suspend Bone on Wednesday

www.theguardian.com

As they won't give us a general election (at least not til Jan 2025 when they either have to have an election or abandon parliamentary democracy entirely), the only hope would seem to be for another 30 or so Tory MPs to commit serious sexual offenses or to quit out of sheer petulance.

Hmm, seem to be slowly getting there...taking far too long, though.

I remember during the dying years of John Major's time, during which his majority slowly eroded, a lot of Tory MPs died of natural causes. I heard that was partly becuase their majority was so slim that they were constantly having to drag elderly MPs in from their sick beds, and it literally did many of them in. It seems the current crop are younger and in better health, so one has to rely on their natural tendency towards extreme avarice and being sex-pests, which makes it a much slower process.

MP Scott Benton faces Commons suspension over lobbying scandal

Standards committee recommends 35-day suspension, which could trigger byelection in former Tory’s Blackpool South seat

www.theguardian.com

 

[Brainonska511]

That's why democracy should be two-thirds majority, or even 80-20. Anything less and both parties need to work together, each party controlling the area they won in.

That's a terrible idea. We need only look at the US Senate (filibuster) to see why this is bad.

 

[pmv]

That's a terrible idea. We need only look at the US Senate (filibuster) to see why this is bad.

Yeah, it's a bad idea for general legislation. The US Senate seems a particularly stupid case as the supermajority requirement only came about by mistake anyway. It's clearly paralysing.

There's a case that it should have been that way for the Brexit referendum, though, as that was a near irreversible major change. That's what they did with the earliest Scottish devolution referendum, IIRC. A leave vote as close as it was was probably the worst possible outcome.

 

[Brainonska511]

Yeah, it's a bad idea for general legislation. The US Senate seems a particularly stupid case as the supermajority requirement only came about by mistake anyway. It's clearly paralysing.

There's a case that it should have been that way for the Brexit referendum, though, as that was a near irreversible major change. That's what they did with the earliest Scottish devolution referendum, IIRC. A leave vote as close as it was was probably the worst possible outcome.

The nonbinding referendum should have been ignored by the people (elected leaders) who should have known better, especially with the referendum results being so close (and knowing some percent voting "leave" because they had generic anger against the status quo and not really big on "leave").

 

[pmv]

And still he won't give us an election

Rishi Sunak Ridiculed Over Poll Showing He Is As Unpopular As Boris Johnson

The prime minister has seen his personal rating fall to its lowest ever level.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

At prime minister’s questions today, Labour MP Chris Bryant asked Sunak: “What’s worse, losing your WhatsApp messages as tech bro, losing £11.8bn to fraud as chancellor, presiding over the biggest fall in living standards in history, or desperately clinging on to power when you’ve become even more unpopular than Boris Johnson?”

The prime minister replied: “What matters to me is delivering for the British people and that’s exactly what we are doing.”

If he's so keen on 'delivering' why doesn't he quit and get a job working for Amazon Prime or Yodel or someone as a driver?

 

[pmv]

Have nothing more to add beyond that I love this headline (which highlights an increasingly-obvious truth)

'I'm Not Tetchy' Says Tetchy Rishi Sunak, Tetchily

However the prime minister did admit he sometimes gets "frustrated".

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

 

[mikeymikec]

When the UK government appears to have less stringent backup measures than I do (despite the fact that I back up this stuff *just in case* there's something important in there):

Penny Mordaunt: Boris Johnson’s messages vanished from my phone

MP tells Covid inquiry that then prime minister’s chief of staff ignored repeated attempts to discuss matter

www.theguardian.com

Or, Occam's Razor time, they're just as corrupt as fuck.

 

[cytg111]

Hey, leave the rest of us out of your cesspools of
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Which is fine and all, but it doesnt mean corruption-free, often times with this statistic in mind ill be going "if it's like this here, then it surely must be utterly fucked elsewhere". More cleanup aisle 11.

 

[biostud]

Which is fine and all, but it doesnt mean corruption-free, often times with this statistic in mind ill be going "if it's like this here, then it surely must be utterly fucked elsewhere". More cleanup aisle 11.

Yup. At least our tax system has been proven free of corruption.../s

 

[mikeymikec]

A British conservative will be touching themself tonight:

Suicides of asylum seekers in Home Office accommodation double in last four years

A total of 23 people are thought to have killed themselves since 2020, with 176 deaths from all causes

www.theguardian.com

 

[cytg111]

Yup. At least our tax system has been proven free of corruption.../s

My mind goes to the sales of the likes of TDC and Dong etc… And the influx of billionaire money into politics in form of Lars Seir and his pet project for example(trying to copy the American model…)

 

[biostud]

My mind goes to the sales of the likes of TDC and Dong etc… And the influx of billionaire money into politics in form of Lars Seir and his pet project for example(trying to copy the American model…)

Everything revolving Lars Løkke seems to be 50 shades of grey.

 

[UNCjigga]

This week's edition of Winning at Brexit--the corner fish and chips shops across England are on the verge of extinction as supply chains dry up and prices skyrocket. If it's no longer the cheap option, it seems Brits are choosing different cuisines with their sterling.

The quintessentially British fish and chips is endangered. Why?

Supply chain snags are driving up the prices for fish and chips. As many as half of the U.K.’s “chippies” could shut down.

www.nbcnews.com

But hey, at least you can buy wine in pint sized bottles now!!

Brexit’s pint-sized ‘benefits’ are a measure of its failure | Economics | The Guardian

Wine in imperial measures, we are told, is ‘what leaving was all about’, while the UK struggles outside the single market

amp.theguardian.com

 

[pmv]

Our unelected billionaire PM Sunak is apparently intent on hanging on to the last moment before allowing an election. Presumably wanting to carry on looting the country for his rich mates for as long as possible before he reclaims his Green Card and clears off to California.

He's announced he wants to slash benefits and cut public spending in order to allow tax cuts, so more top-down class-war, in other words. More making the poor pay for the crisis caused by the rich - business as usual, really.

Nobody wants him there, but unless another 30 MPs get caught in financial or sex scandals there's no shifting the squatter in Downing Street (another three byelections coming up for exactly those reasons, though).

I mean, this government, with its plans to slash public spending when public services are already close to collapse, and cut taxes for high earners in the SE is based on the majority achieved by Johnson in 2019 with his election promises of "levelling up" and reducing regional inequality. It's been behind in the polls for two years now, 20% behind for most of that time, and has no legitimacy whatsoever, yet the bastards are refusing to have an election because they want to enrich themselves for as long as they can before the game is up.

 

[Drach]

Our unelected billionaire PM Sunak is apparently intent on hanging on to the last moment before allowing an election. Presumably wanting to carry on looting the country for his rich mates for as long as possible before he reclaims his Green Card and clears off to California.

He's announced he wants to slash benefits and cut public spending in order to allow tax cuts, so more top-down class-war, in other words. More making the poor pay for the crisis caused by the rich - business as usual, really.

Nobody wants him there, but unless another 30 MPs get caught in financial or sex scandals there's no shifting the squatter in Downing Street (another three byelections coming up for exactly those reasons, though).

I will guarantee you he won't be welcomed in California.
Possibly floriduh?

 

[sdifox]

I don't recall ever seeing single digit fish and chip prices here.

Menu - Captain George Fish and Chips

Captain George's Fish and Chips is a restaurant that specializes in fish and chips. They offer a variety of fish options, including halibut, haddock, cod, shrimp, scallops, and clams.

www.captaingeorgefishandchips.ca

 

[hal2kilo]

I don't recall ever seeing single digit fish and chip prices here.

Menu - Captain George Fish and Chips

Captain George's Fish and Chips is a restaurant that specializes in fish and chips. They offer a variety of fish options, including halibut, haddock, cod, shrimp, scallops, and clams.

www.captaingeorgefishandchips.ca

Where's the cod?

 

[sdifox]

Where's the cod?

Scroll down?

 

[hal2kilo]

Scroll down?

Realized I was just looking at the specials menu.

 

[pmv]

As this is the all-purpose "crap things about the UK" thread, are people aware of this story?

Ordinary people being crucified to cover up the incompetence of government and tech bros. Seems to be both cock-up _and_ conspiracy, insofar as those in authority lied and looked the other way to conceal the initial cock-up (and ensure someone else - less elite than themselves - carried the can for it).

What is the Post Office scandal, why were postmasters prosecuted, and what is Horizon?

Sub-postmasters and mistresses will give evidence about how the Horizon IT system the Post Office introduced in 1999 caused account shortfalls that saw them wrongly accused of stealing from their branches.

news.sky.com

Kind-of-interesting, as an aside, that Computer Weekly (a rather prosaic trade paper that I remember searching for job adverts a lifetime ago) made much of the running in exposing the scandal - they have a track record of investigating a long list of government/contractor IT fiascos, but this was by far the most heinous.

Fujitsu to finally face blame for its part in Post Office Horizon scandal | Computer Weekly

Fujitsu’s part in causing the extreme suffering of subpostmasters will be made clear as the IT supplier begins giving evidence at a statutory inquiry.

www.computerweekly.com