the CEO of my company should not be in charge

JimKiler

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A year ago someone asked him at the all employee meeting where he sees the company in 5 years and he said I have no idea. So then the next quarter he tried to make up for his lack of skill with a multiple powerpoint slide presentation about where the company is going. This year in response to only 64% of employee's being happy here he said he has done all he can and if we are unhappy we should stay home. Granted there will always be people who work and will always be unhappy. (I work but i will always complain about the bad stuff this being a case in point) But he should have responded better at the least. He could have said we are transforming our company and hopefully when you see that transformation people will believe management and become happier. Is it just me or should this guy not be a CEO with horrible responses like those?

THen again our CFO said to the remaining employees whose jobs did not get outsourced that if we do not want grow professionally he would find us and get us out of the company. I want to grow but stupid threats like that do not make me want to be stay here.
 

daveybrat

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Well i guess the good news is that you probably won't have to worry about working there for too long.
 

Yakk

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Sounds like he is insecure in his position, see if often. Turnover usually is quite high in these cases, probably needs leadership training.
 

JimKiler

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Is the company profitable?

Yes but we went from public to private so now all the money that we would use to invest is being sent to investors. So unless they make us public again i do not see this place surviving.
 

cbrunny

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Yes but we went from public to private so now all the money that we would use to invest is being sent to investors. So unless they make us public again i do not see this place surviving.
does not compute. your public investors didn't make money?
 

WelshBloke

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He should definitely learn to lie more flagrantly and with more corporate bollocks speak.
 

tynopik

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so you're saying you would rather have a psychopath who could boldly lie about his non-existent vision and desire for 100% employee satisfaction
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Sounds like a typical corporation led by a poor communicator. You're valued less than a paperclip. Paperclips get budgeted for and inventoried.
 

kranky

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I once worked at a place where the CEO was from Europe. He was known for remarks like that at all-employee meetings. (Once said "I see complaints about the cafeteria, about the overtime policy, about internet usage rules, and a whole lot of other things. If you don't like it here, just get out.") What your CEO and CFO said was just lashing out at the large number of employees who said they were unhappy. They are laying the groundwork for cutting people because their private investors want more $$$ and the easiest way is to cut payroll. Some execs think the way to motivate is through fear and it doesn't work on employees who have enough skills to find other work.
 

ctbaars

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Jim Killer. Go back to work. Don't worry about things you have no control over.
 

cbrunny

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Jim Killer. Go back to work. Don't worry about things you have no control over.
yeah this is my thought too. if the company is profitable and stable, and you're not a Sr. Exec, this doesn't need to be a worry for you.
 

Darwin333

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I guess it really depends on what those employees are unhappy about. If it's trivial bullshit then I'd agree with his statement.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Sounds like every CEO everywhere.

Most CEO's have learned the art of bullshit. That's how you get to be a CEO, it's about playing the game and saying the right things in the right ears. If your response to high job dissatisfaction among your employees is "stay home" it's hard to see how you made it to CEO in the first place. The proper response is some suitably ambiguous corporate-ese about empowering team members to help create a more forward-thinking workplace and that your door is always open to paradigm shifting concepts of visually a more synergistic environment. You don't have to mean it or even understand it, you just have to say it convincingly.
 

rh71

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Some people just should not be public speaking/writing because they have no knack for perspective/consideration. They shoot from the hip and think it's ok.

But in contrast - I work for a global company where it's realistically doom & gloom (off-shoring for over a decade) but every single quarter that passes (with losses), our CEO writes a message of hope and how we're doing good here and there. We all know it's BS - it's more for investors/shareholders and basically just say "whatever" to ourselves as employees, and have done so for years now. So that's not desirable either.

Lastly, you know how you have to do personal reviews every quarter/year for yourself and dread it? That's the type of work I feel like these execs do. It's pretty dull work, but can be done in an hour, and they get huge $ for it. So lol @ powerpoint presentation, but besides making decisions, that's all they tangibly do.
 
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Slew Foot

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Most CEO's have learned the art of bullshit. That's how you get to be a CEO, it's about playing the game and saying the right things in the right ears. If your response to high job dissatisfaction among your employees is "stay home" it's hard to see how you made it to CEO in the first place. The proper response is some suitably ambiguous corporate-ese about empowering team members to help create a more forward-thinking workplace and that your door is always open to paradigm shifting concepts of visually a more synergistic environment. You don't have to mean it or even understand it, you just have to say it convincingly.

Yeah, I should have said that it sounds like what every CEO everywhere is thinking. But most are smart enough to mask those thoughts with corporate BS doublespeak.

At least our CEO tells you what he is thinking, the nurses asked for a raise, he said "Fuck you" and walked out of the room.
 
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...If your response to high job dissatisfaction among your employees is "stay home" it's hard to see how you made it to CEO in the first place.

Depends on the circumstance. If you're offering, say, a voluntary buyout, it's not unreasonable to intimate that people who do not take the buyout will be expected to be good soldiers, and invest themselves fully in their work going forward.

If you think you are doing everything that can reasonably be done to make your company a good place to work, "NO U" is a natural response to employee dissatisfaction. Hell of it is, sometimes they're right - a toxic workplace culture led by some malcontents can be infectious and self-sustaining, and that can be very, very difficult for admin to deal with, even if they're otherwise pretty good at their job.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Depends on the circumstance. If you're offering, say, a voluntary buyout, it's not unreasonable to intimate that people who do not take the buyout will be expected to be good soldiers, and invest themselves fully in their work going forward.

If you think you are doing everything that can reasonably be done to make your company a good place to work, "NO U" is a natural response to employee dissatisfaction. Hell of it is, sometimes they're right - a toxic workplace culture led by some malcontents can be infectious and self-sustaining, and that can be very, very difficult for admin to deal with, even if they're otherwise pretty good at their job.

It's okay to think "stay home". And it's okay to weed out malcontents. And it's okay to take a hard stance about raises and vacation and productivity. But it's important to say things the right way. In most companies a CEO has to be a salesman. He's selling his leadership and his company as a whole to investors, customers and prospective employees. It's got to appear that there is a sane, intelligent, reasonable person at the top so that you trust the company. And a CEO who says such a stupid thing in such a stupid way is sending the wrong message to everyone.
 

JimKiler

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It's okay to think "stay home". And it's okay to weed out malcontents. And it's okay to take a hard stance about raises and vacation and productivity. But it's important to say things the right way. In most companies a CEO has to be a salesman. He's selling his leadership and his company as a whole to investors, customers and prospective employees. It's got to appear that there is a sane, intelligent, reasonable person at the top so that you trust the company. And a CEO who says such a stupid thing in such a stupid way is sending the wrong message to everyone.

agreed, we know a certain percentage will always be or say they are unhappy but not unhappy enough to leave, i am probably in that camp of pointing out the bad stuff but still like it enough to stay. And if the CEO wants to admit he does not know where the company will be in 5 years that is fine. But he should have a plan on where he is attempting to take the company. He can admit it may not go where he wants it to, but he said he has no idea where the company will be in 5 years, end of statement.

Now after he said that the next quarterly meeting he did go over in length what the company is doing for their next few years so i hope that means he got crap from others about how stupid he looked the prior meeting.
 

kranky

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Now after he said that the next quarterly meeting he did go over in length what the company is doing for their next few years so i hope that means he got crap from others about how stupid he looked the prior meeting.

I have no doubt that's what happened.
 
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