The cheap SSDs thread

[balloonshark]

That's not the only one on sale, try changing the capacity selector. Choosing MLC instead of TLC shows some bargains, but I don't know if it's my web browser or their page, because an oddly-stretched image eventually shows up over where the product price, selectors, and "Add to Cart" normally shows up, so you can't order any of the MLC models.

I'm using firefox and when I change to mlc I see the same messed up page as you do.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I'm using firefox and when I change to mlc I see the same messed up page as you do.

Ok, now I'm on Windows 10 Home 64-bit, with Waterfox 64-bit 46.0.1 (I think), without NoScript, and I can select the MLC options just fine.

They have the MLC 60GB for $28.99, the MLC 120GB for $37.99, and the MLC 240GB for $59.99. No MLC 480 or 960GB models available.

 

[VirtualLarry]

$31.99 NeweggFlash. Silicon Power Slim S55 2.5" 120GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SP120GBSS3S55S25

http://flash.newegg.com/Product/N82E16820301259

These are now back in stock.

Edit: Sale at NeweggFlash is now over. If anyone got in on this sale, and bought the TLC S55 model drive, I would be interested in your comments.

 

[VirtualLarry]

http://flash.newegg.com/product/20-...60716-_-EMC-060716-Latest-_-MECH-_-Intel-LB1E

Intel 320 Series 160GB SATAII MLC 2.5" SSD
Edit: Mfg recertified!

$34.99 FS

NeweggFlash

$5 cheaper than Newegg @ NeweggFlash. Generally, NeweggFlash sales are for a limited time only.

Edit: Try this link instead?
http://flash.newegg.com/Product/N82E16820167391?icid=WP_5_06062016

Now at Newegg, in Thursday's sale flyer, for $34.99 FS:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-061616-Index-_-InternalSSDs-_-20167391-S1A5B

 

[lupi]

crucial bx200 240gb for $60 at the egg shocker for today.

 

[VirtualLarry]

crucial bx200 240gb for $60 at the egg shocker for today.

That's a good price for a mediocre drive. It's TLC, but it's one of the slowest TLC drives, as I understand it. Haven't heard anything bad about reliability and that particular drive though. (As in failures.)

But don't take my word for it, look up the AT review. There might be a relevant LegitReviews review too.

 

[Macgyversite]

Here ya go Larry.......

512gb Kingspec MLC on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/KingSpec-SATAIII-SMI2246XT-controller-ACSC2M512S25/dp/B01CN8K380/ref=sr_1_2

Closest controller model number review I could find.

http://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/silicon-motion-sm2246en-ssd-controller-review/3/

Not to shabby.......

For what its worth. Review of the drive.

http://rageworx.ddns.net/index.php/kingspec-ssd-512gb-acsc2m512s25-review/

 

[Macgyversite]

Ebay via Newegg.......

SanDisk SSD PLUS 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SDSSDA-120

Supposedly MLC

$36 shipped

 

[VirtualLarry]

Ebay via Newegg.......

SanDisk SSD PLUS 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SDSSDA-120

Supposedly MLC

$36 shipped

According to a quote from cbn, and an article from TweakTown, the Sandisk SSD PLUS is now TLC, and not MLC.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=38300817&postcount=6

If it were still MLC, I'd get a few.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Here ya go Larry.......

512gb Kingspec MLC on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/KingSpec-SATAIII-SMI2246XT-controller-ACSC2M512S25/dp/B01CN8K380/ref=sr_1_2

Closest controller model number review I could find.

http://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/silicon-motion-sm2246en-ssd-controller-review/3/

Not to shabby.......

For what its worth. Review of the drive.

http://rageworx.ddns.net/index.php/kingspec-ssd-512gb-acsc2m512s25-review/

Upon a closer look, I believe that might be a fake capacity SSD. Only two NAND packages populated for a 512GB drive? That poor 4K QD32 read score?

Look at some of the benchmarks in this thread. Something is clearly wrong with the 512GB drive mentioned in the blog link. I think it's really a 32GB drive.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2467389&page=2

Edit: I guess I'm wrong. You actually can fit 256GB into one NAND package, through die stacking.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/micron-3d-nand-intel-xpoint,32116.html

To put this in perspective, NAND vendors can stack up to 16 NAND die in a single package (two-die MX300 package pictured above), so Gen 2 IMFT 3D NAND can cram in 1 TB of MLC NAND per package and up to 1,563 GB (1.5 TB) per TLC package. This increased density will enable beefy storage in mobile applications, such as phones and tablets, and unlock 10 TB 2.5" 7mm SSDs (or 6 TB M.2 SSDs).

 

[cbn]

Upon a closer look, I believe that might be a fake capacity SSD. Only two NAND packages populated for a 512GB drive? That poor 4K QD32 read score?

Look at some of the benchmarks in this thread. Something is clearly wrong with the 512GB drive mentioned in the blog link. I think it's really a 32GB drive.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2467389&page=2

I saw that myself and was surprised to see the low read scores. But look how high the Sequential write is....if it was 32GB it wouldn't be that high.

Maybe this is an example of what lack of DRAM does to reads? See the following two examples below:

1.)

According to the Tom's test of Sandisk Z400s (which uses SM2246XT), the lack of DRAM does a play a role at high queue depths for 4K read:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...6-3.html?_ga=1.164490619.552404762.1465083782

Any operation involving random data is slow on the Z400s. SanDisk's 15nm MLC flash can't make up for the lack of high-speed DRAM, even compared to TLC-based SSDs. At low queue depths, where performance really matters, the Z400s isn't that much slower than the 120GB SP550, though.

2.)

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6924/patriot-blaze-120gb-low-cost-ssd-review/index.html

Here were the results of the sequential read:

Notice only the Phison S9 drives (Patriot Blaze and Patriot Torch) are the ones with variation in min, average, and maximum read speeds. Here is what tweak town wrote about that:

The Blaze 120GB was unable to read sequential data at a consistent pace in our test. The Torch 120GB was the same way when we tested it. I think the lack of a DRAM buffer to cache the table data played a role in the wide separation between minimum and maximum performance.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I saw that myself and was surprised to see the low read scores. But look how high the Sequential write is....if it was 32GB it wouldn't be that high.

Maybe this is an example of what lack of DRAM does to reads? See the following two examples below

See this post, a benchmark for a 480GB dram-less SSD. Note the 4K QD32 read score.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=38277465&postcount=48

 

[Macgyversite]

Damn.

How much are they saving by not including Dram?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Ebay item # 381517804225

Silicon Power Slim S55 2.5" 120GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Newegg via ebay

$32.99 + $0.99 ship

120GB TLC for ~$34 shipped. Bought a few, hopefully they don't suck too badly. Phison controller.

 

[PliotronX]

I'd like to know more about the longevity of the S55 because the Newegg reviews got me nervous. Each SSD has its share of negative reviews but I've never seen so many die either within a day of installation or within 3 months. If it lasts for a good long while I'd rate it a good buy because it could probably maintain better sequential writes than its direct competitor SP550.

 

[VirtualLarry]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233928

Corsair Force LS 120GB MLC SATA6G 2.5" SSD *REFURB*

Newegg

$29.99 FS $36.99 FS

I've bought these before, and haven't had any particular problems with mine. Some people apparently have, though, as these only have three eggs at Newegg.

 

[cbn]

See this post, a benchmark for a 480GB dram-less SSD. Note the 4K QD32 read score.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=38277465&postcount=48

You are right.

Maybe that KingSpec drive has a firmware issue?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Maybe that KingSpec drive has a firmware issue?

Maybe it was installed in IDE mode, and not AHCI? Still, even for IDE mode, that's kind of low. I have a 30GB OCZ SATAII drive connected to an A4-3420 FM1 APU overclocked 12%, and it scores higher on 4K QD32, even in IDE mode.

Edit: See my edited post. Per TH article, apparently, through die stacking, you can fit 256GB per NAND package, easily.

 

[Staples]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233928

Corsair Force LS 120GB MLC SATA6G 2.5" SSD *REFURB*

Newegg

$29.99 FS

I've bought these before, and haven't had any particular problems with mine. Some people apparently have, though, as these only have three eggs at Newegg.

If there are not a huge amount of reviews, you should read them.
Some of them are dumb like "newegg got it to me overnight, 5 stars" or "it was late, one star" or "DOA, one star." None of these are relevant to what we want to see in a review.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Newegg's ebay store has some deals.

Intel 320 Series 160GB SATAII MLC 2.5" (MFG REFURB) for $34.99 $39.99 FS

Team Group L7 EVO 120GB SATA6G (presumably TLC, Marvell controller) 2.5" $34.99 + $0.99 ship FS, 240GB for $54.99 + $0.99 ship.

Zotac 240GB Premium MLC SSD $54.99 FS (# 291645909582)

 

[PliotronX]

I'm going to have to nominate this feed for HD thread of the decade

That Zotac MLC 240 looks interesting, how does it compare to the PNY CS1211? I am curious because Newegg must have depleted stock of the discontinued 1211 because the 240 is now $110 I got it less than a week before that for $60.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Is the Zotac MLC 240 dead? I can't seem to find it.

 

[PliotronX]

Is the Zotac MLC 240 dead? I can't seem to find it.

Yeah, must've had a dozen of them and then FW or SD caught on. It's showing as OOS now.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I'm going to have to nominate this feed for HD thread of the decade

That Zotac MLC 240 looks interesting, how does it compare to the PNY CS1211? I am curious because Newegg must have depleted stock of the discontinued 1211 because the 240 is now $110 I got it less than a week before that for $60.

I've got two of the 240GB Zotac SSDs incoming. Btw, BestBuy often has the PNY SSDs on a fairly reasonable average sale price. (CS1111, 120GB for $40, 240GB for $60, 480GB for $120, etc.)

They also occasionally put the newer CS2211 on sale too, cheaper than Newegg (but not as cheap as the CS1111 drives).

Their prices on the Kingston V300 drives are horrible, though. Last time I looked, they wanted like $100 for the 240GB V300. Ouch!

 

[PliotronX]

That's awesome, thanks! I have been interested in playing with the 2211. If the Zotac is anywhere near as good as its reviews, I regret getting the 1211