Put alternatively, it produced a candidate who was the popular VP of an administration Democrats view as successful, who was listed as the most desired candidate for nearly all of the last several years, which shouldn’t exactly be surprising.
Put alternatively, it produced a candidate who was the popular VP of an administration Democrats view as successful, who was listed as the most desired candidate for nearly all of the last several years, which shouldn’t exactly be surprising.This thread highlights the anxiety from a nomination process that began with an exciting field of candidates of new ideas, but will produce...Bob Dole.
I hope you are right that Obama ‘member berries is enough to excite the youth vote, motivate Sanders supporters and convert Obama-Trump voters.Put alternatively, it produced a candidate who was the popular VP of an administration Democrats view as successful, who was listed as the most desired candidate for nearly all of the last several years, which shouldn’t exactly be surprising.
I hope you are right that Obama ‘member berries is enough to excite the youth vote, motivate Sanders supporters and convert Obama-Trump voters.
Bob Dole was also well liked by the establishment.
I also appreciate you at least attempting to offer a different perspective.
While I think it’s more likely than not that Biden wins who knows. Democrats could certainly have done worse than nominate the guy who polls best against Trump though.I hope you are right that Obama ‘member berries is enough to excite the youth vote, motivate Sanders supporters and convert Obama-Trump voters.
Bob Dole was also well liked by the establishment.
I also appreciate you at least attempting to offer a different perspective.
I have 2 words for youWhat an interesting twist of fate it will be if Democrats lose again because they are too conservative and fearful to run a progressive just like last time. I hope that doesn’t happen but it won’t be they weren’t warned just like last time too.
Fear is the mind killer. Those who hate Sanders and his faithful, who, if Biden loses do you think they will blame. Who did they blame last time. Yet how different would they be having themselves destroyed the Socialist who just might have had a better chance.
But it will be OK. I’ll just spin up an LP 33 and listen to it hiss and pop, hiss and pop, hiss and pop, hiss and pop.
And seriously, do any of you imagine either Biden or Sanders can possibly lose to Trump? I mean, come on, lose to Trump. Such a thing couldn’t possibly happen, could it. No way. Even Hillary would beat him this time, surely......
I have 2 words for you
Jeremy Corbin. Sometimes lessons can be learned by looking around.
Yes and yes. Remember that tiny island 3K miles away begat Brexit. We could have learned the Trump lesson from that observation.Hmm, where should we look for clues about our own future? To the small island nation 3,000 miles away that had an election which was largely a referendum on staying in a much larger economic union? Or to our own general election 4 years ago? Sometimes lessons can be learned by looking at our own history.
There is still the 2nd Re...Green Party and the 3rd Repu....Libertarian Party!Jesus, is this the best this country can offer to lead it, really?
No, because this is politics, not manufacturing. It's almost like apples aren't oranges.So if Russia was for electrific cars, we should oppose them by building as many gas guzzlers that we can? I just want to to be sure I understand where you are coming from.
The biggest handicap to the Democrats is that they care more about fighting amongst themselves over ideological purity than they do about winning. A good example of this can be found in the thread about the recent market drop in oil prices which keeps getting veered off topic into a 'purity' discussion about how people should drive less. Compromise and pragmatic are lost to the left. And so will elections until those returnThread created to highlight the disinformation campaign... trolls come out and continue spreading disinformation...no one notices.
Lol
Once again I will attempt to appeal to Reason about the premise of this thread.
The discussion of Joe Bidens Cognitive Decline is Not a "disinformation campaign". It is a demonstrable Fact. One doesn't need to like the discussion or even like the People bringing it up. Nevertheless, it exists and needs to be taken into consideration when choosing a Candidate, because there will be consequences in that Choice.
The problem is that you can't just point to Joe Biden making idiotic statements as "demonstrable proof" because he has been making idiotic statements and sounding like an idiot for years. It is a known fact about him and was even a known fact about him when he was picked as Obama's VP.
I'm not a big fan of Biden and would have been much happier with other candidates but this isn't proof of anything accept that Biden makes a lot of dumb public statements.
I watched Biden's speech in L.A. as his Super Tuesday results were clearly a triumph... for over 10 minutes until the network broke away to other coverage. That was not a performance by a man in cognitive decline. Trump will have his hands full in any debates with Biden. Cognitively, Trump is no match for him.“The only test that hasn’t been done is the cognitive functioning test,” Olshansky added. “But the fact that he’s on the campaign trail and meeting a rigorous travel and meeting schedule probably would suffice as a replacement for the formal test for cognitive functioning.”
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
He is far worse than he used to be.
As per conservatives, it's A-OK to have a brainless dope.
More importantly, Biden;
-does not wear an adult diaper, as Trump does
-does not pay $150K, of tax payer's money, to raw dog a porn star while during his marriage
-does not instruct a nation of people to expose themselves to a deadly and contagious disease, because the stock market hurt his feefees
If anyone has been proven to be unfit for office - it's Trump.
Biden is a more of a loser creep than a raging moron. Where as Trump, is a confirmed raging moron.
I agree Trump is worse, but he was already known to be worse for these reasons when he defeated Clinton. Biden still hasn't been chosen, so making this a competition on who is worse is not necessary and it is definitely not a good way to win an Election.
I agree Trump is worse, but he was already known to be worse for these reasons when he defeated Clinton. Biden still hasn't been chosen, so making this a competition on who is worse is not necessary and it is definitely not a good way to win an Election.
Okay I’ll run with your premise for this moment.
As of now it appears Biden will capture enough votes/delegates to be the nominee.
In your opinion who is more mentally fit
President Trump or Joe Biden?
Fair enough, I expect you to stop pooping on Biden *provided* he wins enough delegates to become the nominee.
Agreed?
He is far worse than he used to be.
Yeah let's just help promote the guy who's worse by tearing down Biden. Makes sense to me