The Collapse of the Black Family

[Jadow]

70% of black children today are born to single mothers.

In 1965 it was 28%

WTF happened?

And how much does this stat correlate with black poverty, unemployment, and high rate of incarceration? I think this is the #1 factor by far.

Are whites to blame for this? When are blacks no longer victims of white racism, and instead victims of ghetto culture?

Edit. What happened to shame? Seems like our society tolerates, even applauds, destructive behavior like this now.

Also great article: http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_3_black_family.html

 

[Zorkorist]

It's pbvious that Blacks ar4e self-segregated today.

They feel themselves as victims, and take the hand-outs of the federal Government.

Much like the American Indians.

There is little hope I can see, much like the American Indians.

Wards of the state.

-John

 

[SheHateMe]

I was born to a single mother and it had shit to do with being a "victim" of "Ghetto Culture". Don't try to slap the same label on every black child that came up in a single parent home. My mother shouldn't be ashamed for raising me or for being a single parent, she was not being destructive nor was she blaming whites for having to raise my sister and I alone.

Not all of us "feel themselves as victims" nor do all of us "take hand-outs" from the Government.

Don't be such a fucking asshole.

 

[Juror No. 8]

WTF happened?

Three things:

- The War on (some) Drugs happened.

- The War on Poverty (the war to foster government dependence) happened.

- And the U.S. public indoctrination system (the federally-driven dumbing down of America), as we know it today, happened.

The truly amazing part is, the Democrats somehow convinced American blacks to support them as they were pushing this trash on them.

 

[Jadow]

I was born to a single mother and it had shit to do with being a "victim" of "Ghetto Culture". Don't try to slap the same label on every black child that came up in a single parent home. My mother shouldn't be ashamed for raising me or for being a single parent, she was not being destructive nor was she blaming whites for having to raise my sister and I alone.

Not all of us "feel themselves as victims" nor do all of us "take hand-outs" from the Government.

Don't be such a fucking asshole.

Sorry to hear that, was your father killed in an accident, or a was or was he abusive? There are always exceptions, I'm generalizing.

 

[SheHateMe]

Sorry to hear that, was your father killed in an accident, or a was or was he abusive? There are always exceptions, I'm generalizing.

I don't have to explain anything to you and I don't need your exceptions either.

 

[Zorkorist]

Not only do you contribute in your own respect, but you contribute to others.

Good post she hates me...

and I value your contribution... as I would value the contribution from your brothers and sisters.

-John

 

[Jadow]

I don't have to explain anything to you and I don't need your exceptions either.

true, I'm not going to argue, but don't jump on me just because your situation is the exception.

 

[SheHateMe]

true, I'm not going to argue, but don't jump on me just because your situation is the exception.

Don't assume that all black people live under the same circumstances, either. There are a lot of black people out there whose "situation" is the "exception".

 

[Sheep221]

It's not just about blacks, there is also significant increase of single mother parenting in white people as well. It's society that has changed from the past and families are no longer required to follow some non-written law. It's quite good sign because women(either black or white) don't need to be married or stay with annoying men anymore. This wasn't possible in the past because women were hardly working and if, only jobs that didn't make enough income to rise children alone. It's all about decreasing male dominance I guess.

 

[Jadow]

this has been one big sidetrack. 28% to 70% single parent (mostly mother) families. What do you think caused this shift?

From the article, do you agree with this sentiment?

marriage orients men and women toward the future, asking them not just to commit to each other but to plan, to earn, to save, and to devote themselves to advancing their children’s prospects. Single mothers in the ghetto, on the other hand, tended to drift into pregnancy, often more than once and by more than one man, and to float through the chaos around them. Such mothers are unlikely to “shape their children’s character and ability” in ways that lead to upward mobility

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Try Google.

 

[Jadow]

I'm trying to start a discussion / debate. That's what this forum is for.

 

[GregGreen]

The African-American experience has always been one without fathers in it. Families were broken apart by the slave trade both in Africa and the Americas and fathers left during both Great Migrations to look for work.

Taken only at face value, your statistic is quite misleading to the underlying issues. (Not to mention that the number of babies born to single, white women has also skyrocketed.)

 

[Nebor]

Sorry to hear that, was your father killed in an accident, or a was or was he abusive? There are always exceptions, I'm generalizing.

This guy gets it. If it wasn't one of those things (though selecting an abusive mate is questionable,) then the single mother is a bad decision maker.

Our society glorifies single motherhood. You're a hero and a "super mom" if you're a single mother. Meanwhile we can see that most criminals in our country today grew up in single parent households. Simultaneously we're seeing the birth rate and marriage rate fall precipitously. It's the death of the American family unit at the hands of 3rd and 4th wave feminism, IMO. The state has replaced the father for most of America's children.

 

[Howard]

Drug laws are a big part of it.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

The African-American experience has always been one without fathers in it. Families were broken apart by the slave trade both in Africa and the Americas and fathers left during both Great Migrations to look for work.

Taken only at face value, your statistic is quite misleading to the underlying issues. (Not to mention that the number of babies born to single, white women has also skyrocketed.)

There have been periods in US history when the traditional family unit within the Black community was enact and growing. A good example was post WW 2 up until the 60's in which the counterculture revolution and the drug use it promoted basically decimated the Black family unit. Add to this the elements of government's own generational welfare programs based on the "War on Poverty" which dis-incentivized many in the black community to rise out of poverty and created the phenomenon of generational welfare families within the Black community and the "War on Drugs" which also further criminalized and put into prison many Black men and you see how the trend has in part grown into today's pathetic statistics.

 

[SheHateMe]

I get it, its the fault of a woman for being a single parent. No blame goes to a Father that is purposefully absent from his child's life.

It's so easy for a Father to abandon his child, he cannot get Pregnant, he doesn't have to carry the child to term. He can just..well...leave and never come back. A lot of these "Fathers" go on to get other women pregnant and he will likely leave them too. It's a cycle.

It's definitely an attitude issue with Men who think its okay to run away when he gets a woman pregnant. I'm really tired of the shaming of women that goes on in these forum threads, just because you have a Penis doesn't mean you can do no wrong and just because Women are an obvious minority on ATOT doesn't mean you can blame us for all of the problems of the world.

It takes TWO people to conceive a child.

 

[buckshot24]

Don't assume that all black people live under the same circumstances, either. There are a lot of black people out there whose "situation" is the "exception".

I don't think the OP was assuming that every single black person is the same. However he/she probably would have done better to leave those particular questions out of the OP.

 

[SheHateMe]

I don't think the OP was assuming that every single black person is the same. However he/she probably would have done better to leave those particular questions out of the OP.

He admitted to generalizing. You don't need to explain his twisted thinking. He obviously figured his statements would not be met with opposition here.

 

[buckshot24]

I get it, its the fault of a woman for being a single parent. No blame goes to a Father that is purposefully absent from his child's life.

It's so easy for a Father to abandon his child, he cannot get Pregnant, he doesn't have to carry the child to term. He can just..well...leave and never come back. A lot of these "Fathers" go on to get other women pregnant and he will likely leave them too. It's a cycle.

I guess the question is why has the rate of single motherhood gone up so much no matter who is to blame.

 

[Jadow]

I get it, its the fault of a woman for being a single parent. No blame goes to a Father that is purposefully absent from his child's life.

It's so easy for a Father to abandon his child, he cannot get Pregnant, he doesn't have to carry the child to term. He can just..well...leave and never come back. A lot of these "Fathers" go on to get other women pregnant and he will likely leave them too. It's a cycle.

It's definitely an attitude issue with Men who think its okay to run away when he gets a woman pregnant. I'm really tired of the shaming of women that goes on in these forum threads, just because you have a Penis doesn't mean you can do no wrong and just because Women are an obvious minority on ATOT doesn't mean you can blame us for all of the problems of the world.

It takes TWO people to conceive a child.

I think the blame definitely goes to both, probably even more to the father for running out and abandoning their responsibilities. However could it be a repeating cycle, since they didn't have a father, they also don't know how to be a father? how do we break the cycle?

 

[SheHateMe]

I guess the question is why has the rate of single motherhood gone up so much no matter who is to blame.

Obviously because a single mother is a "feminist", "victim of the Ghetto" who "takes hand-outs" from the Government and is "destructive".

 

[buckshot24]

It's definitely an attitude issue with Men who think its okay to run away when he gets a woman pregnant. I'm really tired of the shaming of women that goes on in these forum threads, just because you have a Penis doesn't mean you can do no wrong and just because Women are an obvious minority on ATOT doesn't mean you can blame us for all of the problems of the world.

It takes TWO people to conceive a child.

Yeah, I'd put more blame on the jerk off fathers who leave their kids than the mothers. A lot more blame.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Obviously because a single mother is a "feminist", "victim of the Ghetto" who "takes hand-outs" from the Government and is "destructive".

So you believe this trend has benefited the Black community?