Discussion The Corvette C8

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bbhaag

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I am absolutely in love with this car. The look, the power, the engineering, the price all make it just a formidable machine. God damn it's just fantastic. Yeah some of the aesthetics and performance isn't quit there but still IMO it is an absolute dream.
On a side note I like how in the C&D article linked above they were complaining about the steering and response then use the $127,000 911 and a $288,000 McLaren as a comparison. Give me a break C&D.
 

KentState

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I am absolutely in love with this car. The look, the power, the engineering, the price all make it just a formidable machine. God damn it's just fantastic. Yeah some of the aesthetics and performance isn't quit there but still IMO it is an absolute dream.
On a side note I like how in the C&D article linked above they were complaining about the steering and response then use the $127,000 911 and a $288,000 McLaren as a comparison. Give me a break C&D.

What I find more telling is that the writers are saying the Corvette is a much better car to live with daily and delivers 99% of the performance of the new 911. Not sure which one I would get if I had Porsche money, but for my budget, the C8 is as good as it gets.
 

bbhaag

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They followed through on their promise....it just makes me want it more. IMO it's the hottest piece of hardware to hit the road in over 50 years.
 

Dr. Detroit

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They followed through on their promise....it just makes me want it more. IMO it's the hottest piece of hardware to hit the road in over 50 years.

'69 to today - well there has been a lot of a amazing cars to hit the road in that time frame but the performance per $ is pretty outstanding on the C8. It really is a game changer to have a car with this performance for under $70K.

For Perspective a Supra Turbo with no options based at $40K in '93 which is $72K in todays dollars. The C5 was $40K in '98 which adjusted is $60K today. Unreal how Chevy kept the price so low with the increased performance and materials.

Game Changing
 
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Kaido

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Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Scorches to 60 MPH in 3.6 Seconds

If you're wondering why the GT500 can't touch the Corvette's 2.8-second zero-to-60-mph time despite having nearly 300 more horsepower, that's precisely why Chevy switched to a mid-engine layout. A rear weight bias allows the Corvette to enjoy more traction and thus put the power down more effectively from a stop. The GT500's superior power-to-weight ratio shows up in the quarter-mile trap speed, where the GT500 is traveling 10-mph faster (132 mph versus the Corvette's 122 mph).

Looks like they went the smart design route with the C8!
 

Kaido

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well, it's two different types of performance, but the C8 is probably a monster on the corners, too. I'll take best of 2 out 3....especially when "driving faster in 1/4 mile" isn't as fun as the other two.

Yeah, Matt Farah did a one-take & seemed to really like it:


Don't get me wrong, I love my Mustang, but I don't think I would ever buy a GT500, let alone one that was automatic. I mean, why not just buy a Tesla Model 3 Performance, fully-loaded for $65k, and go 0 to 60 in 3.2 seconds with AWD on a non-track surface at that point? Or go with the cheaper (than a GT500) C8 option, haha?
 

Viper GTS

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Yeah, Matt Farah did a one-take & seemed to really like it:


Don't get me wrong, I love my Mustang, but I don't think I would ever buy a GT500, let alone one that was automatic. I mean, why not just buy a Tesla Model 3 Performance, fully-loaded for $65k, and go 0 to 60 in 3.2 seconds with AWD on a non-track surface at that point? Or go with the cheaper (than a GT500) C8 option, haha?

Don't get me wrong, I'm taking delivery of a M3P+ in a week. The economics are clear.

But I absolutely get why one would buy a GT500. EVs have no soul. I felt about as much for the Model 3 we test drove as I do for my toaster. In comparison ICE sports cars are alive with noise, heat, and drama that EVs will never have.

The GT500 is on the short list of cars that I would consider as dedicated ICE fun car if/when I decide I can't do purely EV.

Viper GTS
 
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Kaido

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Don't get me wrong, I'm taking delivery of a M3P+ in a week. The economics are clear.

But I absolutely get why one would buy a GT500. EVs have no soul. I felt about as much for the Model 3 we test drove as I do for my toaster. In comparison ICE sports cars are alive with noise, heat, and drama that EVs will never have.

The GT500 is on the short list of cars that I would consider as dedicated ICE fun car if/when I decide I can't do purely EV.

Viper GTS

I've actually really enjoyed driving my buddy's Model 3 whenever we hang out...the windshield design makes you feel like you're right there on the road, great steering, great acceleration, etc.

But yeah, I know what you mean about the other parts. On the flip side, I thought about going with the V8 on my Mustang, but I felt like the Ecoboost was a lot more fun (more fun to play with the available power in the 4-cylinder vs. the nutty power of the Coyote engine) & more practical in a variety of ways (better MPG as my DD, quieter inside so I could listen to my audiobooks in peace, haha, etc.). I plan on keeping my little stick-shift EB Mustang forever & ever. The EV day will come (looking you at, Cybertruck!), but at least I'll have a fun ice to fall back on, for sure!
 

Scarpozzi

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I'm not a Corvette guy. I always thought they were for guys in their 50's... When I was 19, a friend of mine that was 11 years older than me had a 1995 Corvette with T-Tops that we rode around in a lot. It was a sweet ride, but I wasn't a fan of the white body + red leather interior....and despite it's power....I wasn't big on the feel of the car.

When I saw the vettes rolling out after 2000, I started warming up to the design, but when the C7 came out, I really appreciated what they were doing. Having said that, the C8 is even sexier. Sadly, the price is a steal compared to European competition from Porsche, BMW, Audi, Ferrari for what you get. Even though they can't match the rivals in top speed, the C8 is under $75k....

I can't see myself biting off that kind of price tag, but may definitely consider leasing one in another 5-10 years.
 

zinfamous

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I'm not a Corvette guy. I always thought they were for guys in their 50's... When I was 19, a friend of mine that was 11 years older than me had a 1995 Corvette with T-Tops that we rode around in a lot. It was a sweet ride, but I wasn't a fan of the white body + red leather interior....and despite it's power....I wasn't big on the feel of the car.

When I saw the vettes rolling out after 2000, I started warming up to the design, but when the C7 came out, I really appreciated what they were doing. Having said that, the C8 is even sexier. Sadly, the price is a steal compared to European competition from Porsche, BMW, Audi, Ferrari for what you get. Even though they can't match the rivals in top speed, the C8 is under $75k....

I can't see myself biting off that kind of price tag, but may definitely consider leasing one in another 5-10 years.

This is pretty much where I have been and am, Ben.

(though I don't foresee myself purchasing/leasing a machine like this in any reasonable future)
 

Scarpozzi

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This is pretty much where I have been and am, Ben.

(though I don't foresee myself purchasing/leasing a machine like this in any reasonable future)
I found a website right after I posed that showing estimates for the C7 on a 3 year lease at $1k/month or $20k down and $460/month for a 36 month lease.

That comes out to be about 3 years of driving a Vette @ about $40k....or $13k-ish annually. That's about $10k a year more than what I'd normally pay. It might actually make more sense to purchase one new and trade it back to the dealer for a truck or something after 1 year. Who knows...but like you...I'm not there yet. I'm still trying to get my wife to chip in on paying off the house and figure out how to buy a sailboat. =P
 

zinfamous

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I found a website right after I posed that showing estimates for the C7 on a 3 year lease at $1k/month or $20k down and $460/month for a 36 month lease.

That comes out to be about 3 years of driving a Vette @ about $40k....or $13k-ish annually. That's about $10k a year more than what I'd normally pay. It might actually make more sense to purchase one new and trade it back to the dealer for a truck or something after 1 year. Who knows...but like you...I'm not there yet. I'm still trying to get my wife to chip in on paying off the house and figure out how to buy a sailboat. =P

Yeah I just can't justify that expense for a go-fast tool, because I am nowhere near MINO territory. ...and even so, not sure.

I saw an add the other day, because everyone is trying to sell cars for Christmas, where I can enjoy a no-money down, $1500/month lease on a new V8 Vantage. ....I mean, why not?

Choosing between the two, I might actually go with the Aston Martin, lol. The C8 is likely the "better car" ....but Astons are gorgeous. It seems to me that you only lease a car like that (and I think you pretty much have to lease the Aston to make any sense out of it) when the difference in cost between the two really doesn't matter.
 

ponyo

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C7 design never grew on me. I hated the design look of the C7 when I first saw it years ago, and I still don't like it. I find the whole Transformer look of the car tacky and unappealing.

But the C8 is beautiful. It caught my eye and attention the first time I saw it just like the C6. I don't plan buying one since it's not electric but C8 is probably going to be the last ICE powered Corvette. Or it could be the last generation of Corvette if GM goes bankrupt.
 
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trenchfoot

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Have owned a 73 'Vette since '78 and it's been through two frame off restorations. The latter is Resto mod featuring 406 ci Dart alum block and heads, 5spd Tremec, 3.7 gearing. I'm figuring conservative 525hp on pump gas, near around 575 on the hard stuff. Least ways it's what I feel in the pull when flooring it from a dead stop.

That being said, I've been waiting to pull the trigger on a new 'Vette since the C4's came out and it's only now that I have the urge to shell out for one. Everything in the lineup including the C7 didn't inspire me a single bit. But now after seeing and hearing about the C8, well consider me a pretty sure bet to be a future owner of one of these new fangled versions of these "plastic fantastics" (with the express permission of my wifey for lifey of course).
 
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Scarpozzi

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Yeah I just can't justify that expense for a go-fast tool, because I am nowhere near MINO territory. ...and even so, not sure.

I saw an add the other day, because everyone is trying to sell cars for Christmas, where I can enjoy a no-money down, $1500/month lease on a new V8 Vantage. ....I mean, why not?

Choosing between the two, I might actually go with the Aston Martin, lol. The C8 is likely the "better car" ....but Astons are gorgeous. It seems to me that you only lease a car like that (and I think you pretty much have to lease the Aston to make any sense out of it) when the difference in cost between the two really doesn't matter.
I was looking at Vantage a few months back and saw a few of them for $40k on the used market. The cost of driving one is ridiculous because of what it costs to get one serviced, so even after you get them down to what's reasonable to purchase on the used market, costs are crazy expensive because of parts and labor. This may have been the article I read, or it may have been another, but check it out:

DB9 Costs: https://aston1936.com/costs/

C7 design never grew on me. I hated the design look of the C7 when I first saw it years ago, and I still don't like it. I find the whole Transformer look of the car tacky and unappealing.

But the C8 is beautiful. It caught my eye and attention the first time I saw it just like the C6. I don't plan buying one since it's not electric but C8 is probably going to be the last ICE powered Corvette. Or it could be the last generation of Corvette if GM goes bankrupt.
I agree with you on the design. What I liked about the C7 was the value when comparing it to every other sports car on the market. It was being put up against $150k+ sports cars. There simply weren't any other cars with those features, acceleration, and handling on the market in that price range.
 
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For the past month I have been shopping the inventories of many car manufacturers for my area. I wasn't in need of a car, but I wanted to know if this pandemic would lead to any decent deals on cars that were previously in high dealer markups and guess what I found? I found at least six Chevy dealerships in North Georgia and South Carolina all willing to sell the entry level C8 for MSRP or lower. I guess sales have impacted so hard that Chevy was the first to set this vehicle a going. Conversely, I was shocked that Chevy wasn't discounting the Suburban at all. Hmm, $55K starting for the Suburban, $57K for the C8.
 
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For the past month I have been shopping the inventories of many car manufacturers for my area. I wasn't in need of a car, but I wanted to know if this pandemic would lead to any decent deals on cars that were previously in high dealer markups and guess what I found? I found at least six Chevy dealerships in North Georgia and South Carolina all willing to sell the entry level C8 for MSRP or lower. I guess sales have impacted so hard that Chevy was the first to set this vehicle a going. Conversely, I was shocked that Chevy wasn't discounting the Suburban at all. Hmm, $55K starting for the Suburban, $57K for the C8.

So how many did you buy?
 
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