The Dark Knight Rises: Offical Review Thread (Spoilers). $162MM Weekend

[UberNeuman]

So, at the end with Alfred in the café:

Real
or
Imagined?

 

[Svnla]

I went to see this movie earlier today in IMAX (Regal Cinema and not the real deal huge wide screen IMAX). Almost sold out.

Alfred/Cain was the bomb. I would vote for him as the best support actor right now. Who would not move when he spoke with Bruce about living his own life and "I failed you" at the cemetary scences.

The video and audito were vivid but I still could not understand 100% of the dialog, not just with Bane but with Bruce and other characters. The soundtrack was awesome, the tires screetching as real life. Nice little twist at the end but because of it, the ending was a bit letdown.

If it was not some plot holes, I would give this movi a 9.5/10 but 9/10 from me. Go see it.

Spoiler

WTH? For several months and the US government only able to send a handful of spec ops guys and they were gone in a short while? Where were SEALs from the river/sewer holes? Delta Force drop off from the sky (bad guys did not have any radar/protection from above)?

 

[cubby1223]

The thread title provides enough warning for me to ask without the spoiler tags...


I was rather confused watching this movie...

Bane & the woman are pissed off and decide to get revenge by blowing up Manhattan.

So they steal Batman's nuclear bomb, and it was confirmed they knew the bomb was going to explode on it's own after (was it 5?) months if they don't detonate it first or place it back in Batman's device.

Then they just create anarchy around the city. Bane goes on the occasional speech similar to an #occupy anarchist. But did they ever demand anything from anyone? Did I miss them try to negotiate anything in exchange for not detonating the bomb?

In other words, Bane and the woman want nothing else but to destroy Manhattan and everyone living there - why would they wait the months instead of blowing up the island when they had plenty of chance? It didn't seem to me like they wanted any outcome other than to blow up the city.

Did I not understand Bane's speaking? Money? Power? Did he and the woman have any desire to survive in any scenario?

 

[UberNeuman]

The thread title provides enough warning for me to ask without the spoiler tags...


I was rather confused watching this movie...

Bane & the woman are pissed off and decide to get revenge by blowing up Manhattan.

So they steal Batman's nuclear bomb, and it was confirmed they knew the bomb was going to explode on it's own after (was it 5?) months if they don't detonate it first or place it back in Batman's device.

Then they just create anarchy around the city. They go on the occasional rant mirroring ala an #occupy anarchist. But did they ever demand anything from anyone? Did I miss them try to negotiate anything in exchange for not detonating the bomb?

In other words, Bane and the woman want nothing else but to destroy Manhattan and everyone living there - why would they wait the months instead of blowing up the island when they had plenty of chance? It didn't seem to me like they wanted any outcome other than to blow up the city.

Did I not understand Bane's speaking? Money? Power? Did he and the woman have any desire to survive in any scenario?

Some people just want to watch the world burn....

 

[cKGunslinger]

The thread title provides enough warning for me to ask without the spoiler tags...


I was rather confused watching this movie...

Bane & the woman are pissed off and decide to get revenge by blowing up Manhattan.

So they steal Batman's nuclear bomb, and it was confirmed they knew the bomb was going to explode on it's own after (was it 5?) months if they don't detonate it first or place it back in Batman's device.

Then they just create anarchy around the city. Bane goes on the occasional speech similar to an #occupy anarchist. But did they ever demand anything from anyone? Did I miss them try to negotiate anything in exchange for not detonating the bomb?

In other words, Bane and the woman want nothing else but to destroy Manhattan and everyone living there - why would they wait the months instead of blowing up the island when they had plenty of chance? It didn't seem to me like they wanted any outcome other than to blow up the city.

Did I not understand Bane's speaking? Money? Power? Did he and the woman have any desire to survive in any scenario?

Did you watch the first Batman? Do you know the League of Shadows? It's purpose?

 

[NFS4]

Off topic, how much time passed in Batman Begins from when Bruce left Gotham and then returned at the board meeting?

 

[EvilYoda]

Supposedly it grossed somewhere in the ballpark of $162M...which is a $10M drop from estimations on Friday, due to the Aurora shooting.

 

[Merad]

Off topic, how much time passed in Batman Begins from when Bruce left Gotham and then returned at the board meeting?

7 years IIRC

 

[UberNeuman]

Off topic, how much time passed in Batman Begins from when Bruce left Gotham and then returned at the board meeting?

I think it was 7 years as Nolan paralleled to Wanye's reemergence as Batman in TDKR...

 

[MontyAC]

Think it was 8 years.

 

[Aikouka]

There were only a few parts of the dialog that I couldn't hear, but most of it was fine. That's even with my damaged hearing from many ear infections as a kid (scarring on my ear drums ).

Spoiler

No one has discussed this, but it is the one thing that bothers me about this movie... Did Batman really not die and took the catwoman to Paris? How? The 4megaton bomb was said to have a blast radius of 6 miles. Ignoring the fact that the bomb went off much closer than 6 miles away from the city... how did Batman get away from the blast in time when he was still in the plane thingy with what.. 30 seconds to go? It just seems like they made it seem that there was no way he survived. But then they show that last scene at the end that is very confusing.

Spoiler

He wasn't in it. They made you think he was with the dialog about it not having auto-pilot. Then you get the scene with Fox asking the engineers about the auto-pilot system, and they say it was already fixed 6 months ago. Hence, he wasn't anywhere close to it. If I remember correctly, the only scenes that he's actually shown in "The Bat" are when he's flying through the city.

Also, I'm pretty sure Alfred said Italy not Paris.

 

[Jadow]

with all that's going on, he had time to rig the bridge with the flaming batman logo?

 

[SSSnail]

So, at the end with Alfred in the café:

Real
or
Imagined?

Srsly? You didn't see the part right before that when they talk about Bruce fixed the autopilot system on the Bat?

 

[Aikouka]

with all that's going on, he had time to rig the bridge with the flaming batman logo?

It was meant to be symbolic. :|

 

[Ns1]

Spoiler

Bruce Wayne pushed a patch for the auto-pilot component. I wonder how he unit-tested it.

 

[SirStev0]

Spoiler

Cilian Murphy had a fucking great spot in the film. Loved that he was in it.

I was really pissed that they didn't call him Grayson or something instead of fucking Robin. I rewatched Begins the other day and caught all sorts of references from old Batman stories I forgot all about. They didn't need to make it that obvious. I would have preferred a much more subtle reference.

 

[SirStev0]

I think Bane is purposefully supposed to be hard to understand. Makes him creepier.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Spoiler

Meh. 6/10 maybe.

Seems like they tried to compress a 4-5 hour-long film into 2.5 hours. Dialogue is jumbled if not inaudible during far too many key moments, especially from Bane. Some parts are fairly cliche and predictable as well. I surprisingly found myself getting bored. In terms of a summer popcorn flick, it has nothing on Avengers. It is also the worst of the Nolan trilogy by far.

 

[Aikouka]

Spoiler

Meh. 6/10 maybe.

Seems like they tried to compress a 4-5 hour-long film into 2.5 hours. Dialogue is jumbled if not inaudible during far too many key moments, especially from Bane. Some parts are fairly cliche and predictable as well. I surprisingly found myself getting bored. In terms of a summer popcorn flick, it has nothing on Avengers. It is also the worst of the Nolan trilogy by far.

I thought it felt like they tried to make it too long. They could have easily cut parts out of the film to make it ~2 hours. I mean... how many 15 minute stretches did the Batman film have without even showing Batman or Bruce Wayne?

EDIT:

The person that I saw it with said, "it felt like two movies."

 

[SirStev0]

Also, I don't know about anyone else, but :

Spoiler

The scene with Ra's where BW "figures" out that Bane is his son, I turned to my wife/friends and whispered, "that's not right... he has a daughter". Pretty much hit me like a ton of bricks that Tate was going to be Talia.

 

[Aikouka]

Also, I don't know about anyone else, but :

Spoiler

The scene with Ra's where BW "figures" out that Bane is his son, I turned to my wife/friends and whispered, "that's not right... he has a daughter". Pretty much hit me like a ton of bricks that Tate was going to be Talia.

I sat through the whole movie knowing who she really was. The thing is... people mused about all of this when the casting was announced, and I didn't doubt that

Spoiler

Miranda Tate was really Talia and that Blake would become Batman.

Both of those were talked about... even on this forum if I recall.

EDIT:

Although, I was wondering if

Spoiler

Bane was like the red-headed stepchild that I had never heard of.

 

[sigurros81]

Talk about an over-hyped movie. My main beef with the movie was how everyone in the movie were incompetent dumbasses except for Batman and the bad guys, the rest of the world are just buffoons conveniently fucking things up just to push the plot forward. This was my main beef in the previous movie as well.

I would figure that Nolan would know how to direct some good action sequences, but after 3 movies, the cinematography and choreography are still dull as hell.

 

[andylawcc]

Spoiler

I really liked how Batman told Gordon his secret and Gordon got it instantly. It was great.

if it didn't, that would make Gordon [and mainly, the audience] looks dumb.

 

[andylawcc]

7/10. I was disappointed. TDK was 10/10, and this one only marginally delivered; when compare to TDK, which anyone will, TDKR really falls short. I kinda wish this storyline came in 2nd of the triology and TDK's storyline came in as the last.

Spoiler

anyway, among many things, my main issue/question about the story is:
what wait 5 months then detonate the bomb? they want to wipe out the town anyways... it doesn't make sense.

the answer "it's a movie" and "that's Nolan's style" can only go so far. I can accept how batman can still get away scratch-free from a 6mile radius on even with autopilot on, and how the Joker (and Bane, for that matter) can put bombs anywhere they want, from bridges to ferries to hospital to stadium... that's fine.

i was at Imax, and i have troubling hearing Bane half the time.

Spoiler

and anyone bust out laughing when batman said "WHERE IS THE TRIGGER, WHERE IS IT!"

 

[Aikouka]

Spoiler

anyway, among many things, my main issue/question about the story is:
what wait 5 months then detonate the bomb? they want to wipe out the town anyways... it doesn't make sense.

the answer "it's a movie" and "that's Nolan's style" can only go so far. I can accept how batman can still get away scratch-free from a 6mile radius on even with autopilot on, and how the Joker (and Bane, for that matter) can put bombs anywhere they want, from bridges to ferries to hospital to stadium... that's fine.

I believe that's part of the whole "I want them to feel true despair" that Bane talked about.