The Dark Knight Rises: Offical Review Thread (Spoilers). $162MM Weekend

[SSSnail]

7/10. I was disappointed. TDK was 10/10, and this one only marginally delivered; when compare to TDK, which anyone will, TDKR really falls short. I kinda wish this storyline came in 2nd of the triology and TDK's storyline came in as the last.

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anyway, among many things, my main issue/question about the story is:
what wait 5 months then detonate the bomb? they want to wipe out the town anyways... it doesn't make sense.

the answer "it's a movie" and "that's Nolan's style" can only go so far. I can accept how batman can still get away scratch-free from a 6mile radius on even with autopilot on, and how the Joker (and Bane, for that matter) can put bombs anywhere they want, from bridges to ferries to hospital to stadium... that's fine.

i was at Imax, and i have troubling hearing Bane half the time.

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and anyone bust out laughing when batman said "WHERE IS THE TRIGGER, WHERE IS IT!"

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They want to destroy Batman's soul. As to your second point, the detonation was above water, who's to say he doesn't have a capsule or something that drops him below water miles off from the detonation point?

 

[Destiny]

Two of my favorite scenes:

"I'M STILL IN CHARGE!" - Daggett

"Do you feel in charge?" (open hand resting comfortably on Daggetts expensive suit dressed shoulder) - Bane

"I paid you a small fortune." - Daggett

"And you think this gives you power over me?" - Bane

And when Catwomen straddles the Batcycle and arches her butt! :awe:

 

[andylawcc]

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They want to destroy Batman's soul.

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but for how long? it sadly goes back to how Austin Power made a parody out of this situation when Dr Evil said "Oh, i am going to leave my arch-nemesis in a room to die while giving him a slim to none chance to escape." So why 5 months? If you are one of the "some men just want to watch the world burns", you surely shouldn't have the patience.
Now, that is unless Talia WANTS batman to come back just so that she can stab him in back, literally.

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As to your second point, the detonation was above water, who's to say he doesn't have a capsule or something that drops him below water miles off from the detonation point?

nah, i wasn't concern with the technicality of that one, i can let it slide, but my 1st point, it just a too far fetched. Nolan has used up all his "Get Out of Illogical jail" card on my books.

 

[andylawcc]

Two of my favorite scenes:

my favorite Bane quote is:

This is a stock market, there is no money to steal.
Bane: Then what are you doing here.

 

[SSSnail]

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but for how long? it sadly goes back to how Austin Power made a parody out of this situation when Dr Evil said "Oh, i am going to leave my arch-nemesis in a room to die while giving him a slim to none chance to escape." So why 5 months? If you are one of the "some men just want to watch the world burns", you surely shouldn't have the patience.
Now, that is unless Talia WANTS batman to come back just so that she can stab him in back, literally.

nah, i wasn't concern with the technicality of that one, i can let it slide, but my 1st point, it just a too far fetched. Nolan has used up all his "Get Out of Illogical jail" card on my books.

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Long enough until the bomb explodes (the length of time is just coincidental to how long the bomb takes to decay), which is on a timer anyways.

 

[andylawcc]

I believe that's part of the whole "I want them to feel true despair" that Bane talked about.

ok.... i guess i can let this one slide too... thanks.

 

[andylawcc]

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Long enough until the bomb explodes (the length of time is just coincidental to how long the bomb takes to decay), which is on a timer anyways.

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but if your intent is to blow up the city, like Ra S' Gul intended to, why wait? why not blow it up now and fulfill your daddy's dream? of course, as Aikouka pointed out, it is to give Gotham an absolute sense of despair.

 

[andylawcc]

I believe that's part of the whole "I want them to feel true despair" that Bane talked about.

in that sense, then it is very Nolan-esquely ironic when Blake said to the

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orphanage's Priest at the end "Give these kid some hope before they die"

 

[Aikouka]

As I think a few of us have mentioned, Batman probably wasn't even on The Bat as it left Gotham. The only time the movie showed him in it was when he was weaving through buildings. You're supposed to think he was in it until the second time you see Alfred at that cafe in Italy.

 

[andylawcc]

As I think a few of us have mentioned, Batman probably wasn't even on The Bat as it left Gotham. The only time the movie showed him in it was when he was weaving through buildings. You're supposed to think he was in it until the second time you see Alfred at that cafe in Italy.

will watch again. but if I remember correctly,

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it did show him on the Bat before the explosion (right after the orphans in the bus and Blake saw him flew by)

 

[Destiny]

**WARNING SPOILER!** Basically the ending was like this:

 

[andylawcc]

lol

 

[SSSnail]

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but if your intent is to blow up the city, like Ra S' Gul intended to, why wait? why not blow it up now and fulfill your daddy's dream? of course, as Aikouka pointed out, it is to give Gotham an absolute sense of despair.

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They were confident that the bomb is going to blow anyways, and they also want to destroy Bruce Wayne's soul, as he has to watch his city suffers - payback for killing her dad I suppose. They didn't plan for him to be able to get out. Also, it gives Bruce time to heal in that prison.

 

[Gothgar]

I just saw it tonight, it was good

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The plot holes though, christ. There was a load of stuff I ddin't like about the plot. They also had too many characters they were trying to follow around.

Ann Hathaway did a great job though, and looked smoking hot doing it. Bane was good, just hard as hell to understand on the plane scene in the beginning, the rest of the time I got most of it.

Liam Neisen Cameo was fucking baller as hell, he's my favorite.

"I told you I was immortal..... there are different kinds of immortal."

 

[GTaudiophile]

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BTW, anyone here ever have vertebrae protruding through their skin and recover 110% within 3 months? Or was it less? And in the mean time, take on a military-style training regimen? And his leg never once bothered him either?

 

[NFS4]

**warning spoiler!** basically the ending was like this:

http://i.imgur.com/ttibl.gif

lmfao

 

[KeypoX]

Movie was ok, good special features and action scenes. Plot was pretty bad... catwoman was ok i preferred Hallie

 

[Triumph]

my favorite Bane quote is:

This is a stock market, there is no money to steal.
Bane: Then what are you doing here.

I didn't realize people actually enjoyed any of the lines that they could understand, when they're delivered in the best Jimmy Stewart impression i've ever heard. all of his scenes were like listening to It's A Wonderful Life piped through an effects box. It was laughable.

Surprisingly the most enjoyable character for me was Catwoman, whats-her-face did a good enough job, and I didn't expect much out of her.

And frankly, I think the League of Shadows is lame.

 

[TraumaRN]

will watch again. but if I remember correctly,

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it did show him on the Bat before the explosion (right after the orphans in the bus and Blake saw him flew by)

My thought is when he explodes that giant section of that building with the BAT as it carries the bomb....that's when Batman ejected. Theatrics and deception are powerful allies.

Also for some of you at some point can you just accept that its a movie? Its not real and yes there will be some unbelievable points, but its a movie. Suspension of reality.

 

[MikeyLSU]

I was trying to think of some of the things that made TDK a better movie for me and while thinking of the trilogy I came up with a few things.

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In movies 1 and 3 the entire city was going to be destroyed(though you know it won't happen), but in TDK it is never about destroying the city, it is all about killing individuals like the fake batman, and Rachel...

I think that adds a lot to the emotion. They are killing characters who you cared about or knew to a point. I think by having the entire city hostage or trying to kill everyone you take a lot of the emotion/suspense out of it because everyone knows it won't happen.

Just rambling

 

[TecHNooB]

The beginning of the movie was good. Would have been interesting if nolan mirrored knightfall a little more. And the part about robin... he should have said something like "richard" for his real name and the receptionist would say something like "you're all set mr. grayson". A little more subtle than "robin". And then they should go straight to nightwing and skip the robin stuff.

 

[sigurros81]

One thing I would like to add, is how Bane, while perfectly portrayed by Tom Hardy, was ruined by his screen time. He's suppose to be this menacing, lumbering, badass, but they really underdeveloped that. In TDK, the Joker was intimidating as hell, and the entire movie had an overwhelmingly dark tone to it. I wish bane had a "disappearing pencil" trick, but that never came around.

For being a central villain, he did not get the attention he deserved--and this leads me to the point that part of the movie's mistake is introducing so many characters that really were necessary, which really deflated the development of the characters that really matter.

 

[Triumph]

One thing I would like to add, is how Bane, while perfectly portrayed by Tom Hardy, was ruined by his screen time. He's suppose to be this menacing, lumbering, badass, but they really underdeveloped that. In TDK, the Joker was intimidating as hell, and the entire movie had an overwhelmingly dark tone to it. I wish bane had a "disappearing pencil" trick, but that never came around.

For being a central villain, he did not get the attention he deserved--and this leads me to the point that part of the movie's mistake is introducing so many characters that really were necessary, which really deflated the development of the characters that really matter.

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And the way Bane died was really pretty lame. Catwoman comes in and blows him away, bang he's dead, you don't even see his body or see him dying.

That was lame.

Also lame was the romantic story

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between Bruce and the rich lady. He meets her once or twice on a purely professional level, not a hint of interest between them, then she knocks on his door and they attack each other like rabbits, then they're snuggling by the fire. Huh? The play between batman and catwoman was much more interesting and better developed.

 

[Aikouka]

One thing I would like to add, is how Bane, while perfectly portrayed by Tom Hardy, was ruined by his screen time. He's suppose to be this menacing, lumbering, badass, but they really underdeveloped that. In TDK, the Joker was intimidating as hell, and the entire movie had an overwhelmingly dark tone to it. I wish bane had a "disappearing pencil" trick, but that never came around.

For being a central villain, he did not get the attention he deserved--and this leads me to the point that part of the movie's mistake is introducing so many characters that really were necessary, which really deflated the development of the characters that really matter.

I thought he had a few moments like that. When they brought Gordon down into the sewers, he kills one of the guys that brought him down there, and then tells the other guy that he's going to kill him but before that... search Gordon. In that same scene...

"Good... follow him."
"What?"
*bang* *push over railing*

I think one of the parts that they really failed at conveying was when Bane broke Batman's back. I was expecting it since he does that in the comic, and that's what Bane is famous for. I wasn't even sure that he did hurt his back until the prison when he started shouting in pain while grabbing his back.

Although, it is hard to beat the bad-assery of the pencil trick scene.

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will watch again. but if I remember correctly,

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it did show him on the Bat before the explosion (right after the orphans in the bus and Blake saw him flew by)

I'll have to take another look sometime. I remember the whole "It's starting!" "No, it's Batman!" part and them showing the bomb's timer at ~5 seconds, but I don't recall seeing Batman at that point.

Although, if it has a 6 mile blast radius, I assume that he must have flown out really far for no one to be affected so there's also a chance that he could have ejected over the bay.

 

[Ns1]

He's suppose to be this menacing, lumbering, badass, but they really underdeveloped that.

You didn't get that feeling when he destroyed half the city or beat the shit out of batman then threw him into a hole to suffer for the rest of his natural life?