I have seen a Zelda game running on an iPhone. :sneaky:
Regarding the button argument, I don't think enough people care about that anymore. Especially in the market the Vita is targeting.
Nintendo needs to give up on the hardware market completely and concentrate on licensing.
Imagine a Zelda game running on a 360, PS3, Phones or even Vita hardware. It would be insanity.
Nintendo needs to give up on the hardware market completely and concentrate on licensing.
If you think ghetto smartphones can replace portable console gaming you got to be an imbecile.
LOL
Their console won this generation, and their handheld has been number one every generation.
Won, in terms of falling off a few years ago, and being a novelty? Sure...
Whatever you have to tell yourself, to keep from crying about Nintendo beating your favorite console. The Wii is number one. For four years it had outsold its competition, by almost 2 to 1. Even last years sales were still respectable.
Nintendo's only mistake was they should have come out with a new console after 5 years, like normal, instead of getting greedy and trying to milk it. If they done that, they'd still be slaughtering the MS and Sony.
All of Nintendo's consoles have been released on a 5-6 year cadence. The Wii U is right on time.
Whatever you have to tell yourself, to keep from crying about Nintendo beating your favorite console. The Wii is number one. For four years it had outsold its competition, by almost 2 to 1. Even last years sales were still respectable.
Nintendo's only mistake was they should have come out with a new console after 5 years, like normal, instead of getting greedy and trying to milk it. If they done that, they'd still be slaughtering the MS and Sony.
You want to talk about novelties, you should be talking about the Kinect. Still not a single good game for it. LOL! Suckers!
nintendo was also selling lots of balance boards too. kinect is a lot better for this.
without the balance board and the casual market the only thing nintendo has going for it are the people who must play the latest mario/zelda/metroid/starfox game
The difference being that the wii was the only one that was completely irrelevant well before the end of its lifecycle. It's right on time on a historical basis, but about 2 years later than they actually needed it.
I'll take a console or a PC over a handheld ANY day for real gaming.
I suppose it might be different for people who commute on a bus or a train. But unless you do that, or you're riding in the back of mom's minivan, handheld gaming systems are basically pointless. What are you going to do, sit on your couch at home and play a video game on a tiny screen when you could be playing it on the TV in front of you?
without the balance board and the casual market the only thing nintendo has going for it are the people who must play the latest mario/zelda/metroid/starfox game
What good would a new console have done them two years ago? They would have alienated current Wii owners and developers who would feel abandoned, forced Microsoft and Sony's hand with little/no knowledge of what to expect from them, and foolishly put at risk their momentum and revenue coming from the Wii when the demand for something 'more' was still understated. Best case scenario, they maintain 'first place' but also risk being seriously out of position when MS and Sony release.
Console makers dance around each other a lot, but explicit or implicit I'm sure they understand that keeping their consoles relatively "together" is good for them all. Bucking that is not good for anyone, consumers included; see the Dreamcast.
The Wii itself alienated most Wii owners, so they abandoned it. Developers that aren't named nintendo abandoned it long ago. They lost all momentum and tanked 2 years ago. What they pulled off in the first few years was amazing, what its been for the last 2 has been a total catastrophe.
The rub with the Wii U is that its not going to be a next gen system. Its just a really late entry into the current gen. That trick worked once with a great gimmick for a short period of time, but their gimmick this go round just isn't going to cut it. The Wii U could have been a reasonable success a few years ago, maintaining some of the momentum they had left. That momentum is gone. And now the industry is getting ready to move on from ps3/360, and their new console is going to be instantaneously obsolete and left in the dust. They're already seriously "out of position", and the Wii U isn't going to cure that.
Ive always been a big fan of nintendo, but their strategy of bottom feeding is ultimately going to be their demise. They haven't kept up, and now they're so far behind, I don't know what its going to take for them to catch up. Even if its a moderate financial success, and thats the best case scenario, they've long ceased to be the industry leader in the eyes of gamers. They're not even in the same league anymore.
And yet Sony and Microsoft are still chasing them with their own motion peripherals? Just because you think something is true doesn't mean you are right, at all. Many people like me, i.e. the people that spend the most money on gaming, are looking at the Wii U as an escape from exactly the elitist BS that you're espousing here. You may think Nintendo is the bottom feeder, but sales numbers and competitors' reactions in light of said sales domination, means they are still the super power of these gaming nations.
You're still living in the past. Kinect was what...2 years ago? The chase is long over, their sales dominance long in the past. The wii is a completely dead platform right now. And they let that happen, because they rested on their laurels. And they're doing it again.
I absolutely want nintendo to be as great as they once were...so I really want to see the Wii U fail. They can do better.
Mobile games are simply not "real" games in my head. I don't need to justify that to anyone but myself. They are not fulfilling experiences. They are good to play while I take a dump for 5 minutes. When phones regress from full touchscreen (and get actual buttons), and put out games of equal quality to Link's Awakening and Radiant Historia, then I will reconsider my stance. In the meantime, the rest of the world can fist themselves with their angry birds.
/oldman
See the problem is that you want something to happen, while I am just pointing out what actually HAS happened. The Wii is dead because everybody has one now, the war was over 2 years ago when MS & Sony put out their motion peripherals that served to only admit Nintendo won the war. Your problem is that you want Nintendo to cater to the "hardcore" crowd, but the true "hardcore" crowd is running and sprinting away from the Playstation and Xbox as fast as possible.
The Wii U could be the genesis of the new culture of gaming, and it will not only not fail but it will once again be the top selling platform of it's generation. That is just how it is, because Nintendo is a better company than Sony or Microsoft whom have both been guilty of excessive greed and lack of vision...and I cannot imagine they hired anyone who will change that.
Yeah but nobody cares what you think and nobody ever has.
Yeah but nobody cares what you think and nobody ever has.
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Clever girl...
You're making no sense. Did you actually read it? I said it was HIS OPINION that the console was a failure and then proceeded to explain that it was the biggest selling console of this generation and that the next gen Wii would be the best selling console of it's generation as Nintendo's consoles have been the top seller of almost every generation....thus it is not an opinion on my part but a probability based on factual data