THE definitive 90's band

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xboxist

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Live (Throwing Copper) also deserves mention. I doubt anyone would call them the most defining band of the decade, but it's definitely a mainstay album for most people that enjoyed music in that era.
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Nirvana

\thread


Nirvana was bad, stop saying Nirvana. They were awful, and could barely play a show. Influencial, also no. Defining the sound of a decade, again, big time no. They didn't even make it through half of the decade.

\life

The amount of people that have ruined their musical cred this week is amazing. You are near the top of that list now.
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Nirvana

\thread


Nirvana was bad, stop saying Nirvana. They were awful, and could barely play a show. Influencial, also no. Defining the sound of a decade, again, big time no. They didn't even make it through half of the decade.

\life

The amount of people that have ruined their musical cred this week is amazing. You are near the top of that list now.

I concur.

KT
 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Nirvana

\thread


Nirvana was bad, stop saying Nirvana. They were awful, and could barely play a show. Influencial, also no. Defining the sound of a decade, again, big time no. They didn't even make it through half of the decade.

\life

The amount of people that have ruined their musical cred this week is amazing. You are near the top of that list now.

I concur.

KT

I don't want "musical cred" from people with out taste.
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Nirvana

\thread


Nirvana was bad, stop saying Nirvana. They were awful, and could barely play a show. Influencial, also no. Defining the sound of a decade, again, big time no. They didn't even make it through half of the decade.

\life

The amount of people that have ruined their musical cred this week is amazing. You are near the top of that list now.

I concur.

KT

I don't want "musical cred" from people with out taste.

scratch that, you lack credentials in all subjects now...

 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Nirvana

\thread


Nirvana was bad, stop saying Nirvana. They were awful, and could barely play a show. Influencial, also no. Defining the sound of a decade, again, big time no. They didn't even make it through half of the decade.

\life

The amount of people that have ruined their musical cred this week is amazing. You are near the top of that list now.

I concur.

KT

Yep.

While Radiohead, AIC, Soundgarden etc are great bands, when people think 90's rock they think Nirvana or Pearl Jam. That is what definitive means.
 

xboxist

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Nirvana

\thread


Nirvana was bad, stop saying Nirvana. They were awful, and could barely play a show. Influencial, also no. Defining the sound of a decade, again, big time no. They didn't even make it through half of the decade.

\life

The amount of people that have ruined their musical cred this week is amazing. You are near the top of that list now.

I concur.

KT

I don't want "musical cred" from people with out taste.

Horrible or not, they are obviously one of the top 1, 2 or 3 bands that people think of when talking about 90s music, which is what this thread is all about. For you to refute that means you don't understand the discussion or you're just a simple idiot.

Or a troll.
 

Uppsala9496

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Pearl Jam comes to mind. When I think 1990's, alternative comes to mind, and when I think alternative, Pearl Jam is at the top of the list in terms of popularity.
Mother love bone is the most influential.
 

Sumguy

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I think that the boy "bands" had a huge influence on the 90s. I wouldn't include any of them though because they are groups and not bands. To me, a band is a group that plays their own music and is not just the front for the musicians.

With that out of the way, I would have to say......Green Day.

They brought out a revival of sorts of punk and have paved the way for a lot of the bands today to get mainstream (Sum41, Good Charlotte, etc) and also have one of my favorite songs.

Brainstew

I was thinking the same thing until I realized I misinterpreted the "band" in boyband

As for the definitive band of the 90s, I cant really put in an opinion. I didn't even know what grunge was until I was 14 (I'm 18), and didn't put much thought into music since I was only 7 at the time. If something came on and I liked the sound, I would listen to it. I just listened to some Nirvana but...uh...well, they have one that I like so far.

This is not Nirvana...I just got bored
In fact, it may just make you mad
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: Sumguy
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I think that the boy "bands" had a huge influence on the 90s. I wouldn't include any of them though because they are groups and not bands. To me, a band is a group that plays their own music and is not just the front for the musicians.

With that out of the way, I would have to say......Green Day.

They brought out a revival of sorts of punk and have paved the way for a lot of the bands today to get mainstream (Sum41, Good Charlotte, etc) and also have one of my favorite songs.

Brainstew

I was thinking the same thing until I realized I misinterpreted the "band" in boyband

As for the definitive band of the 90s, I cant really put in an opinion. I didn't even know what grunge was until I was 14 (I'm 18), and didn't put much thought into music since I was 7. If something came on and I liked the sound, I would listen to it. I just listened to some Nirvana but...uh...well, they have one that I like so far.

This is not Nirvana...I just got bored
In fact, it may just make you mad

that's worse than a rick roll.

 

soonerproud

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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Yep.

While Radiohead, AIC, Soundgarden etc are great bands, when people think 90's rock they think Nirvana or Pearl Jam. That is what definitive means.

Honestly, it would depend on who you are talking to. Musicians tend to favor AIC, SoundGarden and Nirvana over Pearl Jam. The press usually sides with Nirvana - Pearl Jam. The truth is it is very complicated to say for absolute certain who the most influential bands of the 90's were. There were so many great bands defining the sound of that era it is hard to really pin any of them down as the most influential.

The music in the early to mid 90's was awesome. The music from the late 90's was mediocre when compared to all the great stuff coming out earlier in the decade.
 

lyssword

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
I can't put this on one band.

Tool
The Flaming Lips
Portishead
Radiohead
NIN

Oh boy you mentioned the unmentionable! Wait for pontifex to post exactly this message: "All bands except tool "
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: rasczak
i'm gonna go with Nirvana. I thought they had better songs than PJ. I could go through all of their albums and listen to them all complete without having to skip songs. i could not say that for PJ, STP, AiC and many others.

As for punk, i'd give the nod to Green Day. hell they're my number 2 for the overall question IMHO.

Thats just madness. Across the board, without a dought, PJ has better songs.

The title of the thread says the definitive 90's band, not the first/most influential band who's lead singer killed himself.

But I agree with others who have mentioned, AiC and Soundgarden. Also the mention of Live is nice, even though they're obviously not in the discussion of "definitive 90s band".

 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: rasczak
i'm gonna go with Nirvana. I thought they had better songs than PJ. I could go through all of their albums and listen to them all complete without having to skip songs. i could not say that for PJ, STP, AiC and many others.

As for punk, i'd give the nod to Green Day. hell they're my number 2 for the overall question IMHO.

Thats just madness. Across the board, without a dought, PJ has better songs.

The title of the thread says the definitive 90's band, not the first/most influential band who's lead singer killed himself.

But I agree with others who have mentioned, AiC and Soundgarden. Also the mention of Live is nice, even though they're obviously not in the discussion of "definitive 90s band".

lol i saw Live when i was in HS in the lats 90s and then again when they played at college in 2003

i LOLed, both shows were good
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: dennilfloss
Pearl Jam.

Edit: Wikipedia agrees:

While Nirvana had brought grunge to the mainstream in the early 1990s, Pearl Jam quickly outsold them and became not only the most popular alternative rock band, but the most popular American rock band of the decade.[6] Pearl Jam has been described as "modern rock radio's most influential stylists ? the workmanlike midtempo chug of songs like "Alive" and "Even Flow" just melodic enough to get moshers singing along."[74] The band inspired and influenced a number of bands, ranging from Silverchair to Puddle of Mudd and even The Strokes.[75][76] Pearl Jam has outlasted many of its contemporaries in the grunge scene like Nirvana and Soundgarden, and even bands it has influenced such as Creed.[1]

my first thought as well


screw Nirvana
 

SphinxnihpS

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No, they are one of the top two or three bands that people HERE (a very certain demographic), mention. I think most people would say what they bought at the time, which means that in the USA, Mariah Carey, and Shania Twain are the undisputed definition of music in the 1990s.

When I think of what defines the sound of the time, I start with what I listened to, what wasn't a ripoff of something earlier, and what added to the musical landscape for years to come. Nirvana isn't even on the list. Pavement, Mudhoney, AIC, Soundgarden, Sonic Youth, and many more were making the same exact sound as Nirvana. For me, it is the bands I listed that built on the past without repeating it, defined their own sound, and defined the 1990s musically for me.
 

soonerproud

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
No, they are one of the top two or three bands that people HERE (a very certain demographic), mention. I think most people would say what they bought at the time, which means that in the USA, Mariah Carey, and Shania Twain are the undisputed definition of music in the 1990s.

When I think of what defines the sound of the time, I start with what I listened to, what wasn't a ripoff of something earlier, and what added to the musical landscape for years to come. Nirvana isn't even on the list. Pavement, Mudhoney, AIC, Soundgarden, Sonic Youth, and many more were making the same exact sound as Nirvana. For me, it is the bands I listed that built on the past without repeating it, defined their own sound, and defined the 1990s musically for me.

You obviously never listened to Nirvana, AIC or Soundgarden for that matter. None of these three bands were remotely close to the same style. In a different era Nirvana would have been labeled Punk, AIC Blues Rock/Metal and Soundgarden ranged from Progressive to Metal in their sound. (Does SG even have a sound? They changed styles so often and got away with it it is hard to tell.)

Grunge was a media term for all music from Seattle. The music scene in Seattle was very diverse and many styles were embraced.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: soonerproud
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
No, they are one of the top two or three bands that people HERE (a very certain demographic), mention. I think most people would say what they bought at the time, which means that in the USA, Mariah Carey, and Shania Twain are the undisputed definition of music in the 1990s.

When I think of what defines the sound of the time, I start with what I listened to, what wasn't a ripoff of something earlier, and what added to the musical landscape for years to come. Nirvana isn't even on the list. Pavement, Mudhoney, AIC, Soundgarden, Sonic Youth, and many more were making the same exact sound as Nirvana. For me, it is the bands I listed that built on the past without repeating it, defined their own sound, and defined the 1990s musically for me.

You obviously never listened to Nirvana, AIC or Soundgarden for that matter. None of these three bands were remotely close to the same style. In a different era Nirvana would have been labeled Punk, AIC Blues Rock/Metal and Soundgarden ranged from Progressive to Metal in their sound. (Does SG even have a sound? They changed styles so often and got away with it it is hard to tell.)

Grunge was a media term for all music from Seattle. The music scene in Seattle was very diverse and many styles were embraced.

Yeah I think grunge was a reactionary theme that can cover a pretty wide spectrum of bands that were tired of the labels packaging them with stupid outfits, stupid videos, and stupid songs that were usually written by someone else. IIRC, Nirvana, SG, PJ, AIC, etc always wrote their own stuff, and didn't abide by any strict 'style'.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Not only listened to, but saw all the bands you mentioned, with the exception of Nirvana. Can I make a stupid assumption as well? You were in grade school at the time?

People make stupid lables for music all the time. Emo for instance. What is Emo? It's punk. I could play the Dead Kennedys and half the people here would think it's Coheed and Cambria. My point is that there are too many lables for the amount of music out there. Everything listed in here is Rock, period. You can plug in all the effects pedals and distorion devices and play your guitar right back into the amp all you want, but at the end of the day, on a score sheet every one of those songs looks identical.

This silly thread is simply about agreement, and I don't agree with you. Get over it, because the record buying public doesn't either. The Sound of the 90s is Carey/Twain/Boyz2Men. Suck it!

 

bGIveNs33

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Not only listened to, but saw all the bands you mentioned, with the exception of Nirvana. Can I make a stupid assumption as well? You were in grade school at the time?

People make stupid lables for music all the time. Emo for instance. What is Emo? It's punk. I could play the Dead Kennedys and half the people here would think it's Coheed and Cambria. My point is that there are too many lables for the amount of music out there. Everything listed in here is Rock, period. You can plug in all the effects pedals and distorion devices and play your guitar right back into the amp all you want, but at the end of the day, on a score sheet every one of those songs looks identical.

This silly thread is simply about agreement, and I don't agree with you. Get over it, because the record buying public doesn't either. The Sound of the 90s is Carey/Twain/Boyz2Men. Suck it!

I'd be willing to bet that if this question was posed on Family Feud, not ONE of those three artist would be on there.
 

soonerproud

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
You were in grade school at the time?

You also show your ineptitude in guessing peoples ages. Tie this one on for size. I am in the same age group as the members of the bands from Seattle we are discussing.

Just because you claim to have seen these bands play does not mean you know what you are talking about. There are different types of "rock" so it does matter how the music is written and how it is played.

We could care less if you agree with us. Get over yourself, you are just plain wrong.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
This silly thread is simply about agreement, and I don't agree with you. Get over it, because the record buying public doesn't either. The Sound of the 90s is Carey/Twain/Boyz2Men. Suck it!

Not really, because there's nothing definitive about those albums, they don't sound really any different than pop/pop-country/what-have-you from the 80s or now.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: rasczak
i'm gonna go with Nirvana. I thought they had better songs than PJ. I could go through all of their albums and listen to them all complete without having to skip songs. i could not say that for PJ, STP, AiC and many others.

As for punk, i'd give the nod to Green Day. hell they're my number 2 for the overall question IMHO.

Thats just madness. Across the board, without a dought, PJ has better songs.

The title of the thread says the definitive 90's band, not the first/most influential band who's lead singer killed himself.

But I agree with others who have mentioned, AiC and Soundgarden. Also the mention of Live is nice, even though they're obviously not in the discussion of "definitive 90s band".

lol i saw Live when i was in HS in the lats 90s and then again when they played at college in 2003

i LOLed, both shows were good

You LOLed at what? I said they weren't in the discussion, for good reason. They aren't even close to the level of popularity and influence of PJ, Nirvana, even AIC and Soundgarden.

 
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